"Casino Royale" 2006/Bond 21 at DVinfo.net

John C. Chu · May 5th, 2006, 09:04 PM

Check out this teaser trailer for the new Bond film--starring Daniel Craig.

In French though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVd-Sqc7hMw

Frank Granovski · May 6th, 2006, 02:43 AM

Thunderball was remade so I guess it was cool to remake this one too. Too bad I can't get the high resolution film look on my 'puter, because it's digital. When Nov comes 'round and the movie gets at least 3 stars, I'm going to see it.

Joe Carney · May 6th, 2006, 11:20 PM

The original Casino Royal upset Ian Flemming so much he never again allowed Hollywood to have that much control over his work. If this remains faithful to the original novel, then I'm looking forward to it. Way over due.
I just hope they keep one song, the 'Look of Love' as part of it. But thats just me.
I would watch it just because Eva Green is in it.

John C. Chu · May 7th, 2006, 08:47 AM

I've never seen the original "Casino Royale"--but from what I've understand...it was basically a spoof.

The english trailer is up:

http://movies.aol.com/movie-exclusiv...ale-james-bond

Another direction for Bond.

Keith Loh · May 7th, 2006, 10:47 AM

Sexy female - check.
Gadget - check.
Bond beating up dudes - check.
Bond in tuxedo - check.
Exotic location(s) - check.
Flashy vehicle - check.

The only thing missing from the trailer is a big enemy HQ being blown up.

Marvin Emms · May 7th, 2006, 12:55 PM

"Flashy vehicle - check."

Best pencil that one in. Ford have paid a large amount of money for Bond to be in a Mondeo part of the time.

I liked the Niven version of Casino Royale. Its not something I can explain.

Die another day was the worst bond film for me. The writers didn't seem clear on what they were expecting people to take seriously and that ended up showing in the acting/costuming/set, the central villain was a weak parody, Berrys performance was awful (Mainly due to the lines given admitidly). Will Lee and Rosamund Pike's performances were surprisingly good, but the story about diamond smuggling and building laser weapons in space has been done before and with better cohesion.

I'm aprehensive.

Joe Carney · May 7th, 2006, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Loh

Sexy female - check.
Gadget - check.
Bond beating up dudes - check.
Bond in tuxedo - check.
Exotic location(s) - check.
Flashy vehicle - check.

The only thing missing from the trailer is a big enemy HQ being blown up.

That should have been the description of the original. It wasn't even a good spoof. It was a total mess. Self Indulgent. Except for the soundtrack.

We may be getting a true 'street' version of James Bond. Darker, meaner...only time will tell if we accept him.

Joe Carney · May 7th, 2006, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marvin Emms

"Flashy vehicle - check."

Best pencil that one in. Ford have paid a large amount of money for Bond to be in a Mondeo part of the time.

I liked the Niven version of Casino Royale. Its not something I can explain.

Die another day was the worst bond film for me. The writers didn't seem clear on what they were expecting people to take seriously and that ended up showing in the acting/costuming/set, the central villain was a weak parody, Berrys performance was awful (Mainly due to the lines given admitidly). Will Lee and Rosamund Pike's performances were surprisingly good, but the story about diamond smuggling and building laser weapons in space has been done before and with better cohesion.

I'm aprehensive.

Marvin, I'm with you on that one. Maybe, just maybe, they've been listening and hopefully pull it back from farce to fun. He is supposed to be the ultimate male fantasy.

Daniel Abbey · June 13th, 2006, 09:46 AM

"die another day" wasnt a great bond film but compared to other entries into the series, it wasnt that bad. has anyone forgotten "man with the golden gun"? "a view to a kill"? "licence to kill"? i dont blame you if you do - they were all pretty bland.

im excited to see casino royale. yes, the original was a spoof and had three actors playing bond. in 1967 a guy named charles feldman owned the screen rights to casino royale and, after realizing that a serious contention with then-bond producers saltman and broccoli would probably amount to nothing, he decided to create a lavish, grand, whale-of-a-time gig that celebrated bond in a one-of-a-kind, never-to-be-repeated way. he got that right. the resulting laugh-fest bore little resemblance to the original story instead focusing on comedy above all else.

this new film, however, is as far from the '67 spoof as saddam hussien is to world domination. i hear it is dark, edgy, and potent (sounds like my wife's eyeliner). i for one, am damn enthused. i dig daniel craig! great choice, i reckon. anyone seen "layer cake"? now that was a star-making turn for craig. awesome film and i cant wait for him to kick butt in the upcoming casino royale.

Marvin Emms · June 19th, 2006, 02:06 AM

But is it as close to "Die another day" as the U.S. is to world domination?

I can think of five actors that played 'james bond 007' in the '67 "Casino royale", I think there were more. Some great talent, Peter Sellers, Derek Niven, Orson Wells. A 'lavish' production, a term that now means a lot of money went to actors, set design, costuming and it shows in every frame. Now the modern term 'expensive' generally means a lot of money went to the bank accounts of computer graphics companies and in 2 years it will be impossible to tell how much of that was justified. Its a pretty glorious spoof, in that the situations are downright nuts but the acting is serious and the script is well written. It also boasts something like 5 directors which contributes to the manic feel. Spoof seems like a lost art, nowerdays its generally silly situations with actors behaving silly to half heartedly written scripts. Spoof is now a term meaning 'Can't be bothered to do it properly', love it or hate it 'Casino royale' is a lot better than that. There are some great lines where Nivens bond is making fun of the gadgets, cyanide pills in shirt buttons, knives in shoes, fake flowers that shoot poison "you're joke shop spies gentlemen" and of course he's right.

"man with the golden gun" and "a view to a kill" for me were very memerable. Christopher Lee and Christopher Walken made excellent villains, the plot held together well. For me "Tomorrow never dies" was one of the weakest of the recent bonds, the plot was furthur fetched and a very unconvincing villain. The whole tie in with the late Robert Maxwell was more odd (in a bad way) than clever. It even has the dumbest villain cliche 'shoot your own guy just to prove how evil you are'. It held together in spite of the flaws in the script.

"Die another day" was exceptional, meaning in this case an unfortunate exception, in that it didn't hold together. It wasn't well directed, acted, edited and the script was dire. You have the climactic battle where Bond is doing very little and its cutting back and forth rapidly to and from Pike/Berry, presumably because they were unable to string together two moves of the fight scene convincingly. Berrys charecter then sits and waits while the plane she is in disintegrates until Bond turns up so she can deliver the line 'I think I broke her heart'. "licence to kill" I admit has completely faded from memory, but I'll take that over a travesty like 'Die another day'.

'Layer Cake' was a decent stab at a british gangster movie. For me it was closer to 'Rancid aluminium' than 'Snatch' though. The story was over complicated, showing so much in flashback made the telling rather choppy and the ending seemed unsubtle and unpolished. A much punchier ending would have been to finish the story on leaving the warehouse. 'Welcome to the layer cake', zoom out, exit all, roll credits. That was where it all came together, it would have been in keeping with the tone of the film and everything after that seemed rather forced.

Frank Granovski · June 19th, 2006, 05:53 AM

Sean was the only James Bond, in my opinion, except for the real James Bond who came from Winnipeg.

Rob Gregory-Browne · June 22nd, 2006, 03:21 PM

I agree with Daniel. If you have any doubts about Craig, see Layer Cake. Wonderful, edgy performance.

And after seeing the trailer, I KNOW this is going to be good.

Hugh DiMauro · July 18th, 2006, 10:53 AM

A James Bond Thread! FINALLY!

I am a huge Bond fan and have been one ever since my brother (or father, I cannot remember, it was so long ago) took me to see Goldfinger on the big screen. I remember getting butterflies every time the old United Artists logo painted itself on the screen (any oldtimers remember how the Transamerica "T" painted itself in blue?). And when those staccato trumpet blasts filled the theatre and the white dots marched across the screen before the gunbarrel sequence, oh... my... gosh! I about pissed my pants with anticipation!

- Connery, as big as a building, dispatching bad guys left and right! Remember "Diamonds Are Forever" when he threw those three surgical scalpels into one of Blofeld's henchmen?

- Moore, chasing Mr. Big's henchman in Glastron jet boats on back Louisiana bayous?

- Lazenby (Here is where I tip my cards, ladies and gentlemen) "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" - arguably one of the best Bond films ever. Character and story driven. (SPOILER: He gets married to Diana Rigg, folks!)No gadgets. Just great music, pure escapism and breathtaking cinematography. Anyone who forgot the ski chase where another one of Blofeld's henchmen falls into the snow plow and gets ground up and blown out the exhaust tube obviously fell asleep or left to buy popcorn at that part (A neat behind the scenes tidbit revealed that special effects supervisor John Stears had thrown a dead goat into the snow plow to get that grisly effect).

I stop at Moore because, well, today, Bond has become something much different than the cold war hero he was intended to be.

Rob Gregory-Browne · July 18th, 2006, 10:59 AM

You could have stopped BEFORE Moore. He was the most laughable Bond. I completely lost interest in the series when he took over. And I, too, was introduced to Bond via Goldfinger when my dad took me to see it. Two days later we caught a double feature at the cheap theater of Dr. No and From Russian with Love.

But Moore ruined it. Brosnan revitalized it a bit, but I think Craig will definitely breathe new life into the franchise.

John Kang · July 21st, 2006, 07:54 AM

I used to root for Pierce Brosnan to be the next Bond, before he became Bond.

That is until he got the role and commercialization of the film with product endorsements all over the film got me turned off.

Don't really feel a need to see Casino Royal but I'm thinking if another Bond film was to be made, with storyline by Frank Miller (The dark Batman and Sin City), I would go for it.

I think the collabration betmeen Frank and Robert worked for Sin City, so I'd probably go with Robert to direct a Frank Miller version of Bond, James Bond.
Really, how far off is a Batman series to a Bond series. Uniform?

May 5th, 2006, 09:04 PM	#1
John C. Chu Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rego Park , NYC Posts: 665	"Casino Royale" 2006/Bond 21 Check out this teaser trailer for the new Bond film--starring Daniel Craig. In French though... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVd-Sqc7hMw

May 6th, 2006, 11:20 PM	#3
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	The original Casino Royal upset Ian Flemming so much he never again allowed Hollywood to have that much control over his work. If this remains faithful to the original novel, then I'm looking forward to it. Way over due. I just hope they keep one song, the 'Look of Love' as part of it. But thats just me. I would watch it just because Eva Green is in it. __________________ Boycott Guinness, bring back the pint!!!

May 7th, 2006, 10:47 AM	#5
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	Sexy female - check. Gadget - check. Bond beating up dudes - check. Bond in tuxedo - check. Exotic location(s) - check. Flashy vehicle - check. The only thing missing from the trailer is a big enemy HQ being blown up. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

July 18th, 2006, 10:53 AM	#13
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,207	My Dream Come True! A James Bond Thread! FINALLY! I am a huge Bond fan and have been one ever since my brother (or father, I cannot remember, it was so long ago) took me to see Goldfinger on the big screen. I remember getting butterflies every time the old United Artists logo painted itself on the screen (any oldtimers remember how the Transamerica "T" painted itself in blue?). And when those staccato trumpet blasts filled the theatre and the white dots marched across the screen before the gunbarrel sequence, oh... my... gosh! I about pissed my pants with anticipation! - Connery, as big as a building, dispatching bad guys left and right! Remember "Diamonds Are Forever" when he threw those three surgical scalpels into one of Blofeld's henchmen? - Moore, chasing Mr. Big's henchman in Glastron jet boats on back Louisiana bayous? - Lazenby (Here is where I tip my cards, ladies and gentlemen) "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" - arguably one of the best Bond films ever. Character and story driven. (SPOILER: He gets married to Diana Rigg, folks!)No gadgets. Just great music, pure escapism and breathtaking cinematography. Anyone who forgot the ski chase where another one of Blofeld's henchmen falls into the snow plow and gets ground up and blown out the exhaust tube obviously fell asleep or left to buy popcorn at that part (A neat behind the scenes tidbit revealed that special effects supervisor John Stears had thrown a dead goat into the snow plow to get that grisly effect). I stop at Moore because, well, today, Bond has become something much different than the cold war hero he was intended to be. __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.

May 6th, 2006, 02:43 AM	#2
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Thunderball was remade so I guess it was cool to remake this one too. Too bad I can't get the high resolution film look on my 'puter, because it's digital. When Nov comes 'round and the movie gets at least 3 stars, I'm going to see it.

May 7th, 2006, 08:47 AM	#4
John C. Chu Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rego Park , NYC Posts: 665	I've never seen the original "Casino Royale"--but from what I've understand...it was basically a spoof. The english trailer is up: http://movies.aol.com/movie-exclusiv...ale-james-bond Another direction for Bond.

May 7th, 2006, 12:55 PM	#6
Marvin Emms Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: UK Posts: 204	"Flashy vehicle - check." Best pencil that one in. Ford have paid a large amount of money for Bond to be in a Mondeo part of the time. I liked the Niven version of Casino Royale. Its not something I can explain. Die another day was the worst bond film for me. The writers didn't seem clear on what they were expecting people to take seriously and that ended up showing in the acting/costuming/set, the central villain was a weak parody, Berrys performance was awful (Mainly due to the lines given admitidly). Will Lee and Rosamund Pike's performances were surprisingly good, but the story about diamond smuggling and building laser weapons in space has been done before and with better cohesion. I'm aprehensive.

June 13th, 2006, 09:46 AM	#9
Daniel Abbey New Boot Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philippines Posts: 16	"die another day" wasnt a great bond film but compared to other entries into the series, it wasnt that bad. has anyone forgotten "man with the golden gun"? "a view to a kill"? "licence to kill"? i dont blame you if you do - they were all pretty bland. im excited to see casino royale. yes, the original was a spoof and had three actors playing bond. in 1967 a guy named charles feldman owned the screen rights to casino royale and, after realizing that a serious contention with then-bond producers saltman and broccoli would probably amount to nothing, he decided to create a lavish, grand, whale-of-a-time gig that celebrated bond in a one-of-a-kind, never-to-be-repeated way. he got that right. the resulting laugh-fest bore little resemblance to the original story instead focusing on comedy above all else. this new film, however, is as far from the '67 spoof as saddam hussien is to world domination. i hear it is dark, edgy, and potent (sounds like my wife's eyeliner). i for one, am damn enthused. i dig daniel craig! great choice, i reckon. anyone seen "layer cake"? now that was a star-making turn for craig. awesome film and i cant wait for him to kick butt in the upcoming casino royale.

June 19th, 2006, 02:06 AM	#10
Marvin Emms Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: UK Posts: 204	But is it as close to "Die another day" as the U.S. is to world domination? I can think of five actors that played 'james bond 007' in the '67 "Casino royale", I think there were more. Some great talent, Peter Sellers, Derek Niven, Orson Wells. A 'lavish' production, a term that now means a lot of money went to actors, set design, costuming and it shows in every frame. Now the modern term 'expensive' generally means a lot of money went to the bank accounts of computer graphics companies and in 2 years it will be impossible to tell how much of that was justified. Its a pretty glorious spoof, in that the situations are downright nuts but the acting is serious and the script is well written. It also boasts something like 5 directors which contributes to the manic feel. Spoof seems like a lost art, nowerdays its generally silly situations with actors behaving silly to half heartedly written scripts. Spoof is now a term meaning 'Can't be bothered to do it properly', love it or hate it 'Casino royale' is a lot better than that. There are some great lines where Nivens bond is making fun of the gadgets, cyanide pills in shirt buttons, knives in shoes, fake flowers that shoot poison "you're joke shop spies gentlemen" and of course he's right. "man with the golden gun" and "a view to a kill" for me were very memerable. Christopher Lee and Christopher Walken made excellent villains, the plot held together well. For me "Tomorrow never dies" was one of the weakest of the recent bonds, the plot was furthur fetched and a very unconvincing villain. The whole tie in with the late Robert Maxwell was more odd (in a bad way) than clever. It even has the dumbest villain cliche 'shoot your own guy just to prove how evil you are'. It held together in spite of the flaws in the script. "Die another day" was exceptional, meaning in this case an unfortunate exception, in that it didn't hold together. It wasn't well directed, acted, edited and the script was dire. You have the climactic battle where Bond is doing very little and its cutting back and forth rapidly to and from Pike/Berry, presumably because they were unable to string together two moves of the fight scene convincingly. Berrys charecter then sits and waits while the plane she is in disintegrates until Bond turns up so she can deliver the line 'I think I broke her heart'. "licence to kill" I admit has completely faded from memory, but I'll take that over a travesty like 'Die another day'. 'Layer Cake' was a decent stab at a british gangster movie. For me it was closer to 'Rancid aluminium' than 'Snatch' though. The story was over complicated, showing so much in flashback made the telling rather choppy and the ending seemed unsubtle and unpolished. A much punchier ending would have been to finish the story on leaving the warehouse. 'Welcome to the layer cake', zoom out, exit all, roll credits. That was where it all came together, it would have been in keeping with the tone of the film and everything after that seemed rather forced.

June 19th, 2006, 05:53 AM	#11
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Sean was the only James Bond, in my opinion, except for the real James Bond who came from Winnipeg.

June 22nd, 2006, 03:21 PM	#12
Rob Gregory-Browne Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 107	I agree with Daniel. If you have any doubts about Craig, see Layer Cake. Wonderful, edgy performance. And after seeing the trailer, I KNOW this is going to be good.

July 18th, 2006, 10:59 AM	#14
Rob Gregory-Browne Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 107	You could have stopped BEFORE Moore. He was the most laughable Bond. I completely lost interest in the series when he took over. And I, too, was introduced to Bond via Goldfinger when my dad took me to see it. Two days later we caught a double feature at the cheap theater of Dr. No and From Russian with Love. But Moore ruined it. Brosnan revitalized it a bit, but I think Craig will definitely breathe new life into the franchise.

July 21st, 2006, 07:54 AM	#15
John Kang Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 219	I used to root for Pierce Brosnan to be the next Bond, before he became Bond. That is until he got the role and commercialization of the film with product endorsements all over the film got me turned off. Don't really feel a need to see Casino Royal but I'm thinking if another Bond film was to be made, with storyline by Frank Miller (The dark Batman and Sin City), I would go for it. I think the collabration betmeen Frank and Robert worked for Sin City, so I'd probably go with Robert to direct a Frank Miller version of Bond, James Bond. Really, how far off is a Batman series to a Bond series. Uniform?