Unhappy about new Star Trek movie

Michael Gibbons · April 26th, 2006, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith Loh

Originally I didn't find the idea of the western and space all that appealing and gave the series a miss. But now that I've seen the entire series on DVD (after seeing the movie) I'm sad that it didn't get more of a chance.

ditto. Nearly eveyone I talk to has the same story about this show. Strange. I actually felt sad that there wasn't more when I came to the end of it. I don't think I've ever felt that way about any TV show before.

Frank Granovski · April 27th, 2006, 02:27 AM

So, this new Star Trek movie. Where will it be filmed and what will be the budget? Also, who will be the main actors? I hope Tom Cruz won't be playing the captain. :-)

Edward Slonaker · April 27th, 2006, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Granovski

So, this new Star Trek movie. Where will it be filmed and what will be the budget? Also, who will be the main actors? I hope Tom Cruz won't be playing the captain. :-)

Oh, that would get an award; him jumping up and down on the captain's chair pronouncing his love for Yeoman Rand.....

Keith Loh · April 27th, 2006, 09:59 AM

Then we could have Oprah in place of Guinan.

K. Forman · April 27th, 2006, 10:05 AM

And Rosie Odonnel as Data?

Frank Granovski · April 27th, 2006, 03:52 PM

Good charactors to make it flop. Don't forget Mr. Neilson from Naked Gun. He could replace Scotty. Scotty was a Canadian, by the way.

Keith Loh · April 27th, 2006, 04:54 PM

Not only that, Scotty was at D-Day!

Frank Granovski · April 27th, 2006, 04:59 PM

And he was born in Vancouver (or Victoria). :)

Who would be good to replace Spook? Dillan?

Chris M. Watson · April 27th, 2006, 08:15 PM

Don't know if I agree with your assessment of JJ Abrams. Alias and Lost rock pretty hard and the word is that MI:3 is pretty awesome as well. I actually dig JJ running things. As for the story.....yeah I'm not crazy about that either.

Chris Watson
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Marvin Emms · April 28th, 2006, 06:26 AM

For me Alias started out pretty well, and while the whole SD-6/Double Agent/Father/CIA thing was satisfactory as a coathanger for each episode it was more the action, the wild costumes, the sets and Garner herself that held my attention.

By the time of the 3rd series, the wild costumes were next to nonexistant, the sets had blurred into each other, Garner's sexuality on screen was toned down with other people taking up that part, we'd ditched SD-6 as the bad guys in favour of a series of more sinister and increasingly less plausable groups and the plot started to hang more more on Abrams central Rambaldi conspiricy. With futuristic technology, prophecy and dark motives supposidly coming from a 500 year dead genius who is DaVinci in everything but name, and charectars betraying each other everytime an episode is short of a cliffhanger (or the dead! Not now! Dead again! Still dead...or are they?) the more it seemed to me like Abrams is a really corny writer. I stopped watching a while ago.

Lost I never bothered with, but the law suit that it was stolen from a script with similar plot presented to the same channel for a series with the same name 20 years ago is mighty suspicious. I'm guessing that must still be in the legal pipeline.

I think Abrams and Trek should be very happy together.

Frank Granovski · April 28th, 2006, 04:06 PM

Law suit? Do you have a link for this? I'd be interested in reading about that.

Marvin Emms · April 29th, 2006, 04:53 AM

One page is,

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,...html?rsslatest

By searching for the names in there, I'm sure a thousand websites will come up. I remeber reading some details as to exactly what this guy had claimed to have written.

Either way, even if this Anthony Spinner did not originate the whole thing himself, it does suggest that what we have now was merely adapted from a much earlier ABC series proposal.

Jason Lowe · May 1st, 2006, 09:26 AM

Star Trek needs reimagined, like they did with Battlestar Galactica. Maybe first contact can be with the Klingons instead of the Vulcans. Earth would be under brutal Kilingon control, until a war with the Romulans crushes the empire and gives humanity the opportunity to rise up against the Klingons. Once humans start out into space, they encounter the Vulcans, who are unwilling to help the struggling humans as they plant the seeds of the UFP. Kirk would be a leader of the rebellion, Spock an outcast who aids humans (and is seen by many humans as a spy, but Kirk trusts him).

I just pulled that out of my hat, but I probably gave it more thought than the people planning this Starfleet Academy thing.

Edward Slonaker · May 1st, 2006, 09:33 AM

Definitely like the "darker" Star Trek idea there, Jason. Explores the whole "Mirror, Mirror" episode as a series.....hmmmm.....

K. Forman · May 1st, 2006, 09:37 AM

The Mirror Mirror Universe is a cool idea, but Jason just redisoverd Enterprise. We all know how well that worked out. I was probably one of the few that enjoyed it.

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May 1st, 2006, 09:33 AM	#44
Edward Slonaker Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hell's 6 acres in S. Texas Posts: 203	Definitely like the "darker" Star Trek idea there, Jason. Explores the whole "Mirror, Mirror" episode as a series.....hmmmm..... __________________ Edward Slonaker El Pilon Productions San Patricio, Texas www.elpilon.com

April 27th, 2006, 02:27 AM	#32
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	So, this new Star Trek movie. Where will it be filmed and what will be the budget? Also, who will be the main actors? I hope Tom Cruz won't be playing the captain. :-)

April 27th, 2006, 03:52 PM	#36
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Good charactors to make it flop. Don't forget Mr. Neilson from Naked Gun. He could replace Scotty. Scotty was a Canadian, by the way.

April 27th, 2006, 04:59 PM	#38
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	And he was born in Vancouver (or Victoria). :) Who would be good to replace Spook? Dillan?

April 28th, 2006, 06:26 AM	#40
Marvin Emms Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: UK Posts: 204	For me Alias started out pretty well, and while the whole SD-6/Double Agent/Father/CIA thing was satisfactory as a coathanger for each episode it was more the action, the wild costumes, the sets and Garner herself that held my attention. By the time of the 3rd series, the wild costumes were next to nonexistant, the sets had blurred into each other, Garner's sexuality on screen was toned down with other people taking up that part, we'd ditched SD-6 as the bad guys in favour of a series of more sinister and increasingly less plausable groups and the plot started to hang more more on Abrams central Rambaldi conspiricy. With futuristic technology, prophecy and dark motives supposidly coming from a 500 year dead genius who is DaVinci in everything but name, and charectars betraying each other everytime an episode is short of a cliffhanger (or the dead! Not now! Dead again! Still dead...or are they?) the more it seemed to me like Abrams is a really corny writer. I stopped watching a while ago. Lost I never bothered with, but the law suit that it was stolen from a script with similar plot presented to the same channel for a series with the same name 20 years ago is mighty suspicious. I'm guessing that must still be in the legal pipeline. I think Abrams and Trek should be very happy together.

April 28th, 2006, 04:06 PM	#41
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Law suit? Do you have a link for this? I'd be interested in reading about that.

April 29th, 2006, 04:53 AM	#42
Marvin Emms Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: UK Posts: 204	One page is, http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,...html?rsslatest By searching for the names in there, I'm sure a thousand websites will come up. I remeber reading some details as to exactly what this guy had claimed to have written. Either way, even if this Anthony Spinner did not originate the whole thing himself, it does suggest that what we have now was merely adapted from a much earlier ABC series proposal.

May 1st, 2006, 09:26 AM	#43
Jason Lowe Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Smithfield, Pennsylvania Posts: 226	Star Trek needs reimagined, like they did with Battlestar Galactica. Maybe first contact can be with the Klingons instead of the Vulcans. Earth would be under brutal Kilingon control, until a war with the Romulans crushes the empire and gives humanity the opportunity to rise up against the Klingons. Once humans start out into space, they encounter the Vulcans, who are unwilling to help the struggling humans as they plant the seeds of the UFP. Kirk would be a leader of the rebellion, Spock an outcast who aids humans (and is seen by many humans as a spy, but Kirk trusts him). I just pulled that out of my hat, but I probably gave it more thought than the people planning this Starfleet Academy thing.

May 1st, 2006, 09:37 AM	#45
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	The Mirror Mirror Universe is a cool idea, but Jason just redisoverd Enterprise. We all know how well that worked out. I was probably one of the few that enjoyed it. __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us