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Justin Kohli · September 12th, 2005, 07:38 PM

Anyone like this? I have it on DVD, it is one of my few favorite films, and has inspired me. I like Cruise and Cruz so it was a nice fit.

I'm curious of your thoughts on the movie as a movie, and the technical aspect and what you thought of it's production.

Boyd Ostroff · September 12th, 2005, 07:52 PM

I enjoyed it and thought the plot was clever, but it seemed like Tom Cruise was a strange choice for that part.

OTOH, I finally got around to seeing War of the Worlds last week with my director friend. We were both really impressed with Tom Cruise's performance in that movie.

Justin Kohli · September 12th, 2005, 08:25 PM

Who might you've preferred in place of Cruise?

Mathieu Ghekiere · September 12th, 2005, 08:32 PM

Boyd, I liked him in War of the Worlds as well, but the performances which I think are his best are:
in Magnolia as Frank
in Minority Report as John Anderton

I think those two as very, very good performances.

Martin Taidy · September 13th, 2005, 02:06 AM

I like this a lot too. It's also one of my favorite films. Great acting, great directing and the cinematography is also beautiful.

Mathieu Ghekiere · September 13th, 2005, 04:38 AM

Most people do say the original movie, Abre Les Ojos, is much better though, much more atmospheric.
(For people who wouldn't know, Vanilla Sky is a remake from a Spanish movie from 1996 or something)

Justin Kohli · September 13th, 2005, 04:41 AM

Penelope Cruz was in the original actually - and replayed her character in Vanilla Sky. I'm interested in the original movie as well, but I kinda have a hard time paying attention to dubbed films.

Justin Morgan · September 13th, 2005, 05:11 AM

I avoided this film 'remake' on principle. I have seen the very good original film. It infuriates me the way Hollywood is so devoid of creative ideas of its own that in desperation it will rip-off anything it can get its hands on and then churn out something inferior from the production line (an old tv show remake anyone...?). Why are the majority of Americans so scared of films that have subtitles and don't have Tom Cruise/Hanks as the lead...? Grrr... ;)

Colvin Eccleston · September 14th, 2005, 04:07 AM

I enjoyed the remake because I saw that first, but it is so weak compared to the Spanish version!

Justin Kohli · September 17th, 2005, 01:00 AM

Has anyone come across the script to this movie online? All I find is a transcript.

Dylan Johns · December 16th, 2005, 05:00 AM

the director tried much to hard.

Dave Perry · December 16th, 2005, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Morgan

Why are the majority of Americans so scared of films that have subtitles and don't have Tom Cruise/Hanks as the lead...? Grrr... ;)

I personally don't like to read my movies. I miss too much of it that way. If I wanted to read it, I'd get the book (English translation of course).

The other point for me is that I'm also not a very fast reader, so I end up missing a lot of the dialog as well as the imagery.

Jean-Philippe Archibald · December 16th, 2005, 08:52 AM

I personally loved vanilla sky. Abre Los Ojos, the original movie, was excellent, too. but I enjoyed more the Cameron Crowe's vision of this dream. A side note, Abre Los Ojos, produced in 1997, was written and directed by Alessandro Amenabar, the man who also directed the great "The others" with Nicole Kidman. In 1997, he was 24 years old! He won a lot of awards recently with is last spanish movie, "The sea inside".

Mathieu Ghekiere · December 17th, 2005, 08:55 AM

I only saw the original one, Abre les Ojos, and I think it started out great, but the ending ruined it all. I won't spoil it for others, but I found it to be completely inapproperiate because of various reasons that I won't say because it would spoil the experience for some. So I don't have much interest in seeing the American remake.
I still think Alessandro Amenabar is very talented, The Others was great and I heard Mar Ardentro was superb too.

September 12th, 2005, 07:38 PM	#1
Justin Kohli Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Appleton, WI, USA Posts: 77	Vanilla Sky Anyone like this? I have it on DVD, it is one of my few favorite films, and has inspired me. I like Cruise and Cruz so it was a nice fit. I'm curious of your thoughts on the movie as a movie, and the technical aspect and what you thought of it's production. __________________ Album Journal: http://carbonflaw.blogspot.com DV Blog: http://24-fps.blogspot.com Music & Media Label: phait-accompli.com Thoughts & Philosophies: http://jkohli.blogspot.com "The most important thing is to enjoy life, to be happy, that's all that matters." --Audrey Hepburn

September 12th, 2005, 08:25 PM	#3
Justin Kohli Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Appleton, WI, USA Posts: 77	Who might you've preferred in place of Cruise? __________________ Album Journal: http://carbonflaw.blogspot.com DV Blog: http://24-fps.blogspot.com Music & Media Label: phait-accompli.com Thoughts & Philosophies: http://jkohli.blogspot.com "The most important thing is to enjoy life, to be happy, that's all that matters." --Audrey Hepburn

September 13th, 2005, 04:41 AM	#7
Justin Kohli Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Appleton, WI, USA Posts: 77	Penelope Cruz was in the original actually - and replayed her character in Vanilla Sky. I'm interested in the original movie as well, but I kinda have a hard time paying attention to dubbed films. __________________ Album Journal: http://carbonflaw.blogspot.com DV Blog: http://24-fps.blogspot.com Music & Media Label: phait-accompli.com Thoughts & Philosophies: http://jkohli.blogspot.com "The most important thing is to enjoy life, to be happy, that's all that matters." --Audrey Hepburn

September 13th, 2005, 05:11 AM	#8
Justin Morgan Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London Posts: 189	I avoided this film 'remake' on principle. I have seen the very good original film. It infuriates me the way Hollywood is so devoid of creative ideas of its own that in desperation it will rip-off anything it can get its hands on and then churn out something inferior from the production line (an old tv show remake anyone...?). Why are the majority of Americans so scared of films that have subtitles and don't have Tom Cruise/Hanks as the lead...? Grrr... ;) Last edited by Justin Morgan; September 13th, 2005 at 05:52 AM.

September 17th, 2005, 01:00 AM	#10
Justin Kohli Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Appleton, WI, USA Posts: 77	Has anyone come across the script to this movie online? All I find is a transcript. __________________ Album Journal: http://carbonflaw.blogspot.com DV Blog: http://24-fps.blogspot.com Music & Media Label: phait-accompli.com Thoughts & Philosophies: http://jkohli.blogspot.com "The most important thing is to enjoy life, to be happy, that's all that matters." --Audrey Hepburn

September 12th, 2005, 07:52 PM	#2
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	I enjoyed it and thought the plot was clever, but it seemed like Tom Cruise was a strange choice for that part. OTOH, I finally got around to seeing War of the Worlds last week with my director friend. We were both really impressed with Tom Cruise's performance in that movie.

September 12th, 2005, 08:32 PM	#4
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	Boyd, I liked him in War of the Worlds as well, but the performances which I think are his best are: in Magnolia as Frank in Minority Report as John Anderton I think those two as very, very good performances.

September 13th, 2005, 02:06 AM	#5
Martin Taidy Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 51	I like this a lot too. It's also one of my favorite films. Great acting, great directing and the cinematography is also beautiful.

September 13th, 2005, 04:38 AM	#6
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	Most people do say the original movie, Abre Les Ojos, is much better though, much more atmospheric. (For people who wouldn't know, Vanilla Sky is a remake from a Spanish movie from 1996 or something)

September 14th, 2005, 04:07 AM	#9
Colvin Eccleston Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 93	I enjoyed the remake because I saw that first, but it is so weak compared to the Spanish version!

December 16th, 2005, 05:00 AM	#11
Dylan Johns New Boot Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 21	the director tried much to hard.

December 16th, 2005, 08:52 AM	#13
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	I personally loved vanilla sky. Abre Los Ojos, the original movie, was excellent, too. but I enjoyed more the Cameron Crowe's vision of this dream. A side note, Abre Los Ojos, produced in 1997, was written and directed by Alessandro Amenabar, the man who also directed the great "The others" with Nicole Kidman. In 1997, he was 24 years old! He won a lot of awards recently with is last spanish movie, "The sea inside". __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

December 17th, 2005, 08:55 AM	#14
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	I only saw the original one, Abre les Ojos, and I think it started out great, but the ending ruined it all. I won't spoil it for others, but I found it to be completely inapproperiate because of various reasons that I won't say because it would spoil the experience for some. So I don't have much interest in seeing the American remake. I still think Alessandro Amenabar is very talented, The Others was great and I heard Mar Ardentro was superb too.