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Marcin Tyszka · February 10th, 2005, 07:13 PM

Hey guys I have a paper to write in my film class. I need t opick a film to write about. This is a funky format class and I don't know many experimental movies. I have to pick a film that doesn't give us what we expect from it. Like memento, irreversible or russian ark.. I need titles of those movies which are made not for hollywood .. Can anybody help ?? ?thanks

Filip Kovcin · February 10th, 2005, 07:30 PM

marcin,

try with ZBIGNIEW RYBCZYNSKI.

the one and only - he recieved the oscar for his animated film "TANGO" in 1983 (if i'm not wrong).

sometimes he signs his works as ZBIG RYBCZYNSKI

other works:

- orchestra
- kafka
- 4th dimension
- manhattan
- steps

and many, many more.

since you are polish (at least origin) this will be really nice to try.

====================
the following sentence is in polish - just simple info that marcin - if he want may send e-mail message to me in polish language:
====================
marcin, jesli chcesz, napisz mi mejla to ci powiem wiecej o rybczynskim. dzieki

filip

Mitchell Stookey · February 10th, 2005, 08:16 PM

You could do David Lynch with -
-Eraser Head
-Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me

David Cronenberg
-Videodrome
-Naked Lunch

Terry Gilliam
-Brazil
-Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

just to name a few

Richard Alvarez · February 10th, 2005, 08:58 PM

What was the name of the film that was mostly rotoscoped and animated.... "Waking Life" ?? thats a good one.

Marcin Tyszka · February 10th, 2005, 09:54 PM

Thanks guys for the replies... I will look for those movies and watch it. I heard that Eraser Head was good .Anyways, thanks.

Filip I will write you an email soon ok?:))

Bye BYE
`Marcin

Dave Ambrose · February 10th, 2005, 10:41 PM

I can't think of a more recent experimental movie than Dogville .

Rob Lohman · February 11th, 2005, 04:46 AM

Russian Ark wasn't made for Hollywood, and it was definitely
experimental (in the camera department).

Filip Kovcin · February 11th, 2005, 07:49 AM

i'm not marcin's professor, but i think of experimental film in a different way. for me it's really more rybczynski style than russian ark.

does anyone know any of rybczynski's films?

oh, i remembered one - you couldn't miss - video for john lennon's "imagine" - no computers, just priecise "endless" movement - and OLD highdefinition camera - (1125 lines)!
from left to right endless rooms all in white, with manhattan in background.

this video is probably least experimental in his works.

check this link - maybe you can recognize this video

http://www.medienkunstnetz.de/werke/imagine/

also this

http://www.medienkunstnetz.de/works/nowa-ksiazka/

and this

http://www.medienkunstnetz.de/werke/steps/

enjoy!!!!

he is real genius!!! just check WHEN (which year) all those films were made!

sorry - maybe i'm annoing, but just found another link.

i will NOT post today any new rybczynski's link, promise :))

http://www.pesarofilmfest.it/pesaro2...nski/tango.jpg

maybe you will recognize now...?

thanks

filip

Mitchell Stookey · February 11th, 2005, 08:42 AM

Haha, that single screen shot actually did it for me, I saw that YEARS ago when I was a kid. It starts with a boy's ball bouncing in the kitchen right? And then more characters keep being added to it, like the burglar. It is experimental, but it is a short, is it not? I think to write a paper you would need a feature length film.

Filip Kovcin · February 11th, 2005, 09:34 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Mitchell Stookey : It starts with a boy's ball bouncing in the kitchen right? And then more characters keep being added to it, like the burglar. -->>>

yes, it starts with a boy and a ball.

that's the one. and it's short - yes. about 10 minutes i guess.

but i didn't recognized that marcin needs to write about full lenght feature film. if this is the case - then try to find KAFKA by rybczynski this is 1h or something. *there is also another KAFKA but not directed by rybczysnki, kind of more "normal" film.

filip

Marcin Tyszka · February 11th, 2005, 02:40 PM

Well it doesn't really have to be full lenght film . I have to be able to interpret the message that film has to offer through the way it is made. In last class we watched GEORGE. About two guys walking in desert. That was something increrible:) Well ok thanks guys I will take a look at the titles you gave me and choose something possibly today:) Thanks

Marcin

Keith Loh · February 11th, 2005, 04:24 PM

Don't you mean "Gerry"?

Filip Kovcin · February 11th, 2005, 07:21 PM

of course it was gerry:

http://www.thezreview.co.uk/posters/g/gerry.htm

marcin! next time i WILL send an info to your professor:)

because "GEORGE" IS NOT THAT movie you mentioned

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066660/

:))))

Filip Kovcin · February 11th, 2005, 07:23 PM

and definitelly NOT THIS "george"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106008/

:))))

filip

Marcin Tyszka · February 11th, 2005, 11:45 PM

hahaha holy crap sorry about that. I ment Gerry.. hah I guess I didin't pay attention in class. Filip thanks for the other george movies you suggest heh :P

February 10th, 2005, 07:13 PM	#1
Marcin Tyszka Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NY Posts: 54	Experimental Movies Hey guys I have a paper to write in my film class. I need t opick a film to write about. This is a funky format class and I don't know many experimental movies. I have to pick a film that doesn't give us what we expect from it. Like memento, irreversible or russian ark.. I need titles of those movies which are made not for hollywood .. Can anybody help ?? ?thanks __________________ Say NO to Hollywood films , say YES to independent.

February 10th, 2005, 07:30 PM	#2
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	marcin, try with ZBIGNIEW RYBCZYNSKI. the one and only - he recieved the oscar for his animated film "TANGO" in 1983 (if i'm not wrong). sometimes he signs his works as ZBIG RYBCZYNSKI other works: - orchestra - kafka - 4th dimension - manhattan - steps and many, many more. since you are polish (at least origin) this will be really nice to try. ==================== the following sentence is in polish - just simple info that marcin - if he want may send e-mail message to me in polish language: ==================== marcin, jesli chcesz, napisz mi mejla to ci powiem wiecej o rybczynskim. dzieki filip __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

February 10th, 2005, 08:16 PM	#3
Mitchell Stookey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 196	David Lynch is a good start too You could do David Lynch with - -Eraser Head -Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me David Cronenberg -Videodrome -Naked Lunch Terry Gilliam -Brazil -Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas just to name a few

February 10th, 2005, 09:54 PM	#5
Marcin Tyszka Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NY Posts: 54	Thanks guys for the replies... I will look for those movies and watch it. I heard that Eraser Head was good .Anyways, thanks. Filip I will write you an email soon ok?:)) Bye BYE `Marcin __________________ Say NO to Hollywood films , say YES to independent.

February 11th, 2005, 04:46 AM	#7
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February 10th, 2005, 08:58 PM	#4
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	What was the name of the film that was mostly rotoscoped and animated.... "Waking Life" ?? thats a good one.

February 10th, 2005, 10:41 PM	#6
Dave Ambrose Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New York Posts: 28	I can't think of a more recent experimental movie than Dogville .

February 11th, 2005, 07:49 AM	#8
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	i'm not marcin's professor, but i think of experimental film in a different way. for me it's really more rybczynski style than russian ark. does anyone know any of rybczynski's films? oh, i remembered one - you couldn't miss - video for john lennon's "imagine" - no computers, just priecise "endless" movement - and OLD highdefinition camera - (1125 lines)! from left to right endless rooms all in white, with manhattan in background. this video is probably least experimental in his works. check this link - maybe you can recognize this video http://www.medienkunstnetz.de/werke/imagine/ also this http://www.medienkunstnetz.de/works/nowa-ksiazka/ and this http://www.medienkunstnetz.de/werke/steps/ enjoy!!!! he is real genius!!! just check WHEN (which year) all those films were made! sorry - maybe i'm annoing, but just found another link. i will NOT post today any new rybczynski's link, promise :)) http://www.pesarofilmfest.it/pesaro2...nski/tango.jpg maybe you will recognize now...? thanks filip __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

February 11th, 2005, 08:42 AM	#9
Mitchell Stookey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 196	I have seen tango Haha, that single screen shot actually did it for me, I saw that YEARS ago when I was a kid. It starts with a boy's ball bouncing in the kitchen right? And then more characters keep being added to it, like the burglar. It is experimental, but it is a short, is it not? I think to write a paper you would need a feature length film.

February 11th, 2005, 09:34 AM	#10
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	Re: I have seen tango <<<-- Originally posted by Mitchell Stookey : It starts with a boy's ball bouncing in the kitchen right? And then more characters keep being added to it, like the burglar. -->>> yes, it starts with a boy and a ball. that's the one. and it's short - yes. about 10 minutes i guess. but i didn't recognized that marcin needs to write about full lenght feature film. if this is the case - then try to find KAFKA by rybczynski this is 1h or something. *there is also another KAFKA but not directed by rybczysnki, kind of more "normal" film. filip __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

February 11th, 2005, 02:40 PM	#11
Marcin Tyszka Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NY Posts: 54	Well it doesn't really have to be full lenght film . I have to be able to interpret the message that film has to offer through the way it is made. In last class we watched GEORGE. About two guys walking in desert. That was something increrible:) Well ok thanks guys I will take a look at the titles you gave me and choose something possibly today:) Thanks Marcin __________________ Say NO to Hollywood films , say YES to independent.

February 11th, 2005, 04:24 PM	#12
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	Don't you mean "Gerry"? __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

February 11th, 2005, 07:21 PM	#13
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	of course it was gerry: http://www.thezreview.co.uk/posters/g/gerry.htm marcin! next time i WILL send an info to your professor:) because "GEORGE" IS NOT THAT movie you mentioned http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066660/ :)))) __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

February 11th, 2005, 07:23 PM	#14
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	and definitelly NOT THIS "george" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106008/ :)))) filip __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

February 11th, 2005, 11:45 PM	#15
Marcin Tyszka Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NY Posts: 54	hahaha holy crap sorry about that. I ment Gerry.. hah I guess I didin't pay attention in class. Filip thanks for the other george movies you suggest heh :P __________________ Say NO to Hollywood films , say YES to independent.