Movies so bad, that they're actually..... good?

Mike Rehmus · May 25th, 2004, 09:17 AM

"Dune" the movie. They used one of our digital cameras to scan the film anyplace the actor's eyes had to be 'spice-blue'. In spite of that, the film was so campy, it was great. It wasn't a great match to the book, I thought.

Bill Pryor · May 25th, 2004, 09:29 AM

I'm glad somebody else thought that movie was bad. Since David Lynch did it, it's not socially acceptable to criticize it. And, I love David Lynch films. Except for that one. I remember when I saw it, I said, "That dude has never read a science fiction book in his life."

Speaking of bad movies...there was a story on NPR this morning about a rerelease of the original Japanese "Godzilla." I have always heard the original was a good anti-nuclear bomb statement, but the U.S. version has never made that point very well. Turns out they sold the U.S. rights to an American schlockhouse, which very cleverly cut out 45 minutes of the Japanese and shot Raymond Burr on a soundstage in a 24 hour period and inserted him into the film and totally changed it into a monstercrap production that helped spawn all the bad sequels. The original is supposed to be showing now or soon in N.Y., with the original 45 minutes restored. Hopefully in Japanese with subtitles, but I didn't hear anything about that.

Keith Loh · May 25th, 2004, 01:55 PM

"Dune" the movie is not good, to be sure. But I did like the cast, costumes and sets.

John Hudson · May 25th, 2004, 08:18 PM

Lynch has never done it for me; although I did enjoy Twin Peaks I never have 'gotten' the hype.

Bill Pryor · May 25th, 2004, 08:56 PM

I sorta like weirdness.

Ray Echevers · May 28th, 2004, 10:50 PM

Anything with Vin Diesel in it.

Bill Pryor · May 29th, 2004, 08:46 AM

He wasn't bad in Pitch Black. That was a very good Australian B movie. He didn't have to act much, just scowl and be muscular, and he did that OK.

John Hudson · May 30th, 2004, 02:41 PM

I thought Vin was great in Saving Private Ryan.

Adam C Bowman · May 31st, 2004, 10:20 PM

Seems that there are alot of movies out there that are just bad. I offer to the list "Fish in a Barrell" those lucky few who saw this little gem at the digidance film festival three or four years ago, you saw a truelly awfull film, yet one of the funniest films I've ever seen. For those who dont know digidance, it's one of the small side fetivals going on with Sundance in Park City Utah.
It just was released on dvd, (I have no idea how) and anyone who needs to see what can be made and entered into a festival should buy it. The cast has had some commercial work, and the female lead was the bleach blonde vampire in "Blade". It was the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. I just can't put into words the train wreck that this movie is. And you will love it. Ofcourse the three hour open bar after the film might really be what I am remembering as such a great time, but nonetheless everyone should see this movie.

Leon Ortiz-Gil · June 2nd, 2004, 12:46 AM

XANADU - I loved this film as a kid. Come on Oliva Newton John....

WARRIORS - Are they a gang, or a 70's Funk band? And a gang on roller skates? "Warriors, come out and PLAYYY"

COMMANDO - shoots 50 guys without aiming. No wonder he's our Gov.

To many to mention...

Ian Poirier · June 2nd, 2004, 09:50 AM

The 80's version of the blob. Horrible film but tons of fantastic gore, feathered hair, goverment guys in hazmat suits...

I mean, a guy gets sucked down a sink drain.

Oh yeah, The Warriors rules by the way.

Oh, The Fly II, another poor film but the excessive goop and gore makes me leave it on everytime I'm just flipping through the channels.

And let's not forget Showgirls

Keith Loh · June 2nd, 2004, 09:59 AM

Fly II: Best elevator squishing ever.

Ian Poirier · June 2nd, 2004, 10:44 AM

Right?!

Gotta love that.

For seventies sci-fi schlock you can't beat Barbarella either. Also, how bout Tobe Hooper's suckfest Life Force? Beautiful naked space vampire chick wandering around aimlessly turning people into exploding husks. Piss-poor yet for some reason highly watchable:)

Keith Loh · June 2nd, 2004, 11:04 AM

I LOVE *Lifeforce*. Zombies. Space. Patrick Stewart. Nudity. Dykstra.

Ian Poirier · June 2nd, 2004, 11:32 AM

I forgot Patrick Stewart was in that!

I've almost forgotten the classics of the eighties C.H.U.D, It Lives, Basket Case and the Re-Animator (that last two of which actually rule).

Notice bad horror and sci-fi movies are watchable but when drama sucks it just plain sucks. No amount of camp can save it. Intentional camp also is deplorable and never works.

Oh crap, what about Prophecy? Not the Christopher Walken one but the '79 nuclear waste, giant trout, mutated monster bear movie. So bad that it's just plain bad.

May 25th, 2004, 09:17 AM	#31
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	"Dune" the movie. They used one of our digital cameras to scan the film anyplace the actor's eyes had to be 'spice-blue'. In spite of that, the film was so campy, it was great. It wasn't a great match to the book, I thought. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

May 25th, 2004, 01:55 PM	#33
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	"Dune" the movie is not good, to be sure. But I did like the cast, costumes and sets. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

May 28th, 2004, 10:50 PM	#36
Ray Echevers Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 148	Anything with Vin Diesel in it. __________________ Sony VX-1000 G5 1.8 dual 91 Turbo MR2

May 31st, 2004, 10:20 PM	#39
Adam C Bowman New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 16	Sooo bad.. it is goood! Seems that there are alot of movies out there that are just bad. I offer to the list "Fish in a Barrell" those lucky few who saw this little gem at the digidance film festival three or four years ago, you saw a truelly awfull film, yet one of the funniest films I've ever seen. For those who dont know digidance, it's one of the small side fetivals going on with Sundance in Park City Utah. It just was released on dvd, (I have no idea how) and anyone who needs to see what can be made and entered into a festival should buy it. The cast has had some commercial work, and the female lead was the bleach blonde vampire in "Blade". It was the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. I just can't put into words the train wreck that this movie is. And you will love it. Ofcourse the three hour open bar after the film might really be what I am remembering as such a great time, but nonetheless everyone should see this movie. __________________ monkey

June 2nd, 2004, 09:59 AM	#42
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	Fly II: Best elevator squishing ever. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

May 25th, 2004, 09:29 AM	#32
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	I'm glad somebody else thought that movie was bad. Since David Lynch did it, it's not socially acceptable to criticize it. And, I love David Lynch films. Except for that one. I remember when I saw it, I said, "That dude has never read a science fiction book in his life." Speaking of bad movies...there was a story on NPR this morning about a rerelease of the original Japanese "Godzilla." I have always heard the original was a good anti-nuclear bomb statement, but the U.S. version has never made that point very well. Turns out they sold the U.S. rights to an American schlockhouse, which very cleverly cut out 45 minutes of the Japanese and shot Raymond Burr on a soundstage in a 24 hour period and inserted him into the film and totally changed it into a monstercrap production that helped spawn all the bad sequels. The original is supposed to be showing now or soon in N.Y., with the original 45 minutes restored. Hopefully in Japanese with subtitles, but I didn't hear anything about that.

May 25th, 2004, 08:18 PM	#34
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	Lynch has never done it for me; although I did enjoy Twin Peaks I never have 'gotten' the hype.

May 25th, 2004, 08:56 PM	#35
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	I sorta like weirdness.

May 29th, 2004, 08:46 AM	#37
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	He wasn't bad in Pitch Black. That was a very good Australian B movie. He didn't have to act much, just scowl and be muscular, and he did that OK.

May 30th, 2004, 02:41 PM	#38
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	I thought Vin was great in Saving Private Ryan.

June 2nd, 2004, 12:46 AM	#40
Leon Ortiz-Gil New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Northridge, CA Posts: 11	XANADU - I loved this film as a kid. Come on Oliva Newton John.... WARRIORS - Are they a gang, or a 70's Funk band? And a gang on roller skates? "Warriors, come out and PLAYYY" COMMANDO - shoots 50 guys without aiming. No wonder he's our Gov. To many to mention...

June 2nd, 2004, 09:50 AM	#41
Ian Poirier Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 82	The 80's version of the blob. Horrible film but tons of fantastic gore, feathered hair, goverment guys in hazmat suits... I mean, a guy gets sucked down a sink drain. Oh yeah, The Warriors rules by the way. Oh, The Fly II, another poor film but the excessive goop and gore makes me leave it on everytime I'm just flipping through the channels. And let's not forget Showgirls

June 2nd, 2004, 10:44 AM	#43
Ian Poirier Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 82	Right?! Gotta love that. For seventies sci-fi schlock you can't beat Barbarella either. Also, how bout Tobe Hooper's suckfest Life Force? Beautiful naked space vampire chick wandering around aimlessly turning people into exploding husks. Piss-poor yet for some reason highly watchable:)

June 2nd, 2004, 11:04 AM	#44
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	I LOVE Lifeforce. Zombies. Space. Patrick Stewart. Nudity. Dykstra. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

June 2nd, 2004, 11:32 AM	#45
Ian Poirier Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 82	I forgot Patrick Stewart was in that! I've almost forgotten the classics of the eighties C.H.U.D, It Lives, Basket Case and the Re-Animator (that last two of which actually rule). Notice bad horror and sci-fi movies are watchable but when drama sucks it just plain sucks. No amount of camp can save it. Intentional camp also is deplorable and never works. Oh crap, what about Prophecy? Not the Christopher Walken one but the '79 nuclear waste, giant trout, mutated monster bear movie. So bad that it's just plain bad.