Tin Man on Sci Fi at DVinfo.net

Chris Hurd · December 2nd, 2007, 09:58 PM

Anybody else checking this out? Very interesting interpretation of the original book by L. Frank Baum -- as much as I enjoy all the singing and dancing in the 1939 film version, this is really pretty good so far, edgy dark and moody the way it oughta be. Got a kick out of Richard Dreyfus as the Great and Terrible Mystic Man, and they did a nice job on the mo-bats.

Craig Chartier · December 3rd, 2007, 12:17 AM

It does seem to be kinda catching. Will be watching tomarrow, after HEROES of course. A full night of good scifi.

anyone have any production notes on Tin Man?

Richard Alvarez · December 3rd, 2007, 09:07 AM

I was pretty sceptical, but it won me over. I like the 'sideways' spin on the whole story. Production values are pretty good. I think the actress who plays "DG" is the weakest link however.... everyone else is a real delight.

Edward Slonaker · December 3rd, 2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard Alvarez

I think the actress who plays "DG" is the weakest link however.... everyone else is a real delight.

I agree. Funny how the father looks a lot like Frank Morgan (1939 Wizard). I'm sure that's just coincidence. So far, I'm enjoying it.

Bill Mecca · December 3rd, 2007, 01:26 PM

Watched it last night, enjoyed it. It was fun to correspond some of the scenes to those in the Judy Garland version. It was kind of an OZ meets Dune feel for me (as best I can describe it).

I was reading something the other day that said there were 6 or was it 9 movie versions before the 1939 version starring JG, anyone know their titles, or if they are available. Might make for some interesting viewing.

Not sure I agree with the criticism of Zoey as DG, its really tough to create a character that isn't what the viewer expects especially as a 25 year old portraying what a 17 year old? I viewed her character as a straight-forward no holds barred, damn the torpedos full speed ahead type.

Chris Hurd · December 3rd, 2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Mecca

It was kind of an OZ meets Dune feel for me (as best I can describe it).

That's just exactly what I thought too.

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...there were 6 or was it 9 movie versions before the 1939 version starring JG, anyone know their titles, or if they are available.

Not a fan of this site due to its copious inaccuracies, but here goes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Won...Oz#Adaptations

See also opening paragraphs of http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/oz/ozsect2.html

Richard Alvarez · December 3rd, 2007, 03:36 PM

I thought her name was Zooey, to 'o's.

Just not a lot of range in her acting or expressions so far. It's always a tough call, playing the ingenue... but I'm not seeing more than a smart alecky waitress here... Perhaps she'll have more arc as the show goes on. I have a shoot tonite, so I'll miss it.

Zac Crosby · December 3rd, 2007, 06:17 PM

As not a fan of the original Wizard of Oz, but known to love it... i kinda liked the new one... i just wasn't prepared at first. i thought it was just an updated wizard of oz, but i didn't expect half the things, i really really like it... it just has the feel of a SG1 or SGA type of bad scifi, i looked at some shots trying to color correct it with my eyes...

But the story is good so far, as i was going in expecting a new wizard of oz... i didn't like it at first

But then again, the tinman graduated from my school, and we're about to do the wizard of oz play and warner brothers is coming out to film a documentary of it

Z

Bill Mecca · December 4th, 2007, 10:58 AM

Richard,

I thought it was two o's but then wasn't sure so I opted to be conservative. LOL.

Watching the 2nd part last night, I commented to my wife that I wasn't sure if she wasn't a very good actress or if she intended to make her character appear the way she has. ( I hope its the latter, but still not sure of the motivation). the wide eyed stare is kinda odd. I do hear some vocal similarities with her sister.

Definitely a different take on the story, and I like it a lot. but will she wake up and it all be a dream?

Richard Alvarez · December 4th, 2007, 12:15 PM

I loved the little 'homages' to the Oz flick they keep inserting here and there. The shot of the TinMan and Scarecrow looking over the hill at the 'queens guards' was nice... I almost expected to hear the guards chanting "Oh We Love the OLD ONE..." (Yeah, that's what they are chanting in the movie.)

Last nite, Zooey really got on my nerves... the flat delivery for almost everything. ONly when she flashed back on how the wicked sister got wicked, did we see any emotion... and then it was a faucet of tears.

Lorinda Norton · December 4th, 2007, 01:14 PM

No Sci Fi channel at my place.

I really wanted to see Tin Man, partly because Neal McDonough's acting intrigues me (loved him in Band of Brothers). How's he doing?

This "making of" on YouTube was pretty fun for me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-MqpOT1rQY

Nathan Quattrini · December 4th, 2007, 02:06 PM

watched the second piece....not what I expected at all...intresting take, but as mentioned the girl playing DG is awful. She should have been playing an android with her lack of expression and emotion. I literally sat there watching with my brothers and I started making robotic movement noises when she was moving her head around and delivering her dry lines, and we all cracked up because it fit so well. She definately ruined the chance that`d I`d watch part 3. Even her childhood counterpart was a little better, but still had the same blank stare most of the time. Maybe thats what they wanted, just rubbed me the wrong way since she`s the main focus and NOT an android.

Greg Boston · December 4th, 2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard Alvarez

I almost expected to hear the guards chanting "Oh We Love the OLD ONE..." (Yeah, that's what they are chanting in the movie.)

OMG Richard, you have just solved one of the greatest mysteries of my life. Thanks for that! I was always impressed (growing up in KS myself) at how well they did the tornado effect for having shot in the late 1930's.

-gb-

Edward Slonaker · December 4th, 2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorinda Norton

No Sci Fi channel at my place. I really wanted to see Tin Man, partly because Neal McDonough's acting intrigues me (loved him in Band of Brothers). How's he doing?

He's one of the best ones on the show. Shame you can't get it, BUT,

http://www.scifi.com/tinman

You can watch it online. :D

Richard Alvarez · December 4th, 2007, 05:17 PM

Yeah, I recall seeing how they did the tornado effect in the 30's, a MECHANICAL tornado, made of cotton and stuff... rotating against a background... looked amazing. Still does.

Did you note the paintings in DG's bedroom? Looks like one of the paintings is of the tornado from the 30s movie... pretty cool.

Now that I've read Nathan's comments... I'm beginning to wonder if there won't be some great denouement where we find out DG IS AN ANDROID... like her parents? That would explan the wooden acting, and the damn funny way she runs. Did you notice that? There was a shot where they were running through, what looked like turbines in a power generating plant, she's chasing the dog... and she's running with her arms straight down by her side! I saw that, and turned to my wife who said, "Wow... she runs funny, kind of like a robot..." So maybe Nathan's on to a plot twist, and we'll all be amazed at how well she played it off.

December 2nd, 2007, 09:58 PM	#1
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Tin Man on Sci Fi Anybody else checking this out? Very interesting interpretation of the original book by L. Frank Baum -- as much as I enjoy all the singing and dancing in the 1939 film version, this is really pretty good so far, edgy dark and moody the way it oughta be. Got a kick out of Richard Dreyfus as the Great and Terrible Mystic Man, and they did a nice job on the mo-bats. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

December 3rd, 2007, 01:26 PM	#5
Bill Mecca Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 475	Watched it last night, enjoyed it. It was fun to correspond some of the scenes to those in the Judy Garland version. It was kind of an OZ meets Dune feel for me (as best I can describe it). I was reading something the other day that said there were 6 or was it 9 movie versions before the 1939 version starring JG, anyone know their titles, or if they are available. Might make for some interesting viewing. Not sure I agree with the criticism of Zoey as DG, its really tough to create a character that isn't what the viewer expects especially as a 25 year old portraying what a 17 year old? I viewed her character as a straight-forward no holds barred, damn the torpedos full speed ahead type. __________________ Award-winning Pine Barrens Documentary! Video, Audio, Music & More

December 4th, 2007, 10:58 AM	#9
Bill Mecca Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 475	Richard, I thought it was two o's but then wasn't sure so I opted to be conservative. LOL. Watching the 2nd part last night, I commented to my wife that I wasn't sure if she wasn't a very good actress or if she intended to make her character appear the way she has. ( I hope its the latter, but still not sure of the motivation). the wide eyed stare is kinda odd. I do hear some vocal similarities with her sister. Definitely a different take on the story, and I like it a lot. but will she wake up and it all be a dream? __________________ Award-winning Pine Barrens Documentary! Video, Audio, Music & More

December 4th, 2007, 01:14 PM	#11
Lorinda Norton Wrangler Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southwest Idaho, USA Posts: 3,066	No Sci Fi channel at my place. I really wanted to see Tin Man, partly because Neal McDonough's acting intrigues me (loved him in Band of Brothers). How's he doing? This "making of" on YouTube was pretty fun for me... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-MqpOT1rQY __________________ Lorinda

December 4th, 2007, 02:06 PM	#12
Nathan Quattrini Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, Rhode Island Posts: 740	watched the second piece....not what I expected at all...intresting take, but as mentioned the girl playing DG is awful. She should have been playing an android with her lack of expression and emotion. I literally sat there watching with my brothers and I started making robotic movement noises when she was moving her head around and delivering her dry lines, and we all cracked up because it fit so well. She definately ruined the chance that`d I`d watch part 3. Even her childhood counterpart was a little better, but still had the same blank stare most of the time. Maybe thats what they wanted, just rubbed me the wrong way since she`s the main focus and NOT an android. __________________ Cinematography Site

December 3rd, 2007, 12:17 AM	#2
Craig Chartier DVi Contributor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 374	It does seem to be kinda catching. Will be watching tomarrow, after HEROES of course. A full night of good scifi. anyone have any production notes on Tin Man?

December 3rd, 2007, 09:07 AM	#3
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	I was pretty sceptical, but it won me over. I like the 'sideways' spin on the whole story. Production values are pretty good. I think the actress who plays "DG" is the weakest link however.... everyone else is a real delight.

December 3rd, 2007, 03:36 PM	#7
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	I thought her name was Zooey, to 'o's. Just not a lot of range in her acting or expressions so far. It's always a tough call, playing the ingenue... but I'm not seeing more than a smart alecky waitress here... Perhaps she'll have more arc as the show goes on. I have a shoot tonite, so I'll miss it.

December 3rd, 2007, 06:17 PM	#8
Zac Crosby Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mills, MA Posts: 52	As not a fan of the original Wizard of Oz, but known to love it... i kinda liked the new one... i just wasn't prepared at first. i thought it was just an updated wizard of oz, but i didn't expect half the things, i really really like it... it just has the feel of a SG1 or SGA type of bad scifi, i looked at some shots trying to color correct it with my eyes... But the story is good so far, as i was going in expecting a new wizard of oz... i didn't like it at first But then again, the tinman graduated from my school, and we're about to do the wizard of oz play and warner brothers is coming out to film a documentary of it Z

December 4th, 2007, 12:15 PM	#10
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	I loved the little 'homages' to the Oz flick they keep inserting here and there. The shot of the TinMan and Scarecrow looking over the hill at the 'queens guards' was nice... I almost expected to hear the guards chanting "Oh We Love the OLD ONE..." (Yeah, that's what they are chanting in the movie.) Last nite, Zooey really got on my nerves... the flat delivery for almost everything. ONly when she flashed back on how the wicked sister got wicked, did we see any emotion... and then it was a faucet of tears.

December 4th, 2007, 05:17 PM	#15
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Yeah, I recall seeing how they did the tornado effect in the 30's, a MECHANICAL tornado, made of cotton and stuff... rotating against a background... looked amazing. Still does. Did you note the paintings in DG's bedroom? Looks like one of the paintings is of the tornado from the 30s movie... pretty cool. Now that I've read Nathan's comments... I'm beginning to wonder if there won't be some great denouement where we find out DG IS AN ANDROID... like her parents? That would explan the wooden acting, and the damn funny way she runs. Did you notice that? There was a shot where they were running through, what looked like turbines in a power generating plant, she's chasing the dog... and she's running with her arms straight down by her side! I saw that, and turned to my wife who said, "Wow... she runs funny, kind of like a robot..." So maybe Nathan's on to a plot twist, and we'll all be amazed at how well she played it off.