Avid / Pinnacle discussions from 2002

Brad Herbert · November 30th, 2002, 01:38 PM

This is just my .02 but I would probably just stick with a one processor setup, and put the money towards more HD space and xtra software packages.

I have been running 3.5 on my Single Athlon XP1800 setup on a Soyo Dragon Plus Platinum MB for about $350 total. One fast processor renders FX pretty fast, and is plenty sufficient for recording/playback/Realtime FX with no problems. With the savings of the Xtra processor and board that supports it you could buy another 20 Hours worth of storage.

Just thought I would chime in.

-Brad

Jason Wood · November 30th, 2002, 01:45 PM

I'm running dual AMD chips with XDV and I haven't had any problems. True they are not supported by Avid, but Avid only offers free support for 30 days, then you have to pay for the support period...And let me tell you, their support isn't very good to begin with. I find the Avid forums to be of greater help.

If I were building a system JUST for XDV I would go with a single processor. XDV doesn't really take advantage of the second chip. I've heard XDV performs only 25 to 50% faster than a single chip machine. If you do a lot of After Effects work...then I do recommend dual processors. AE is true multithreaded software.

As far as the Pentium Xeons VS AMD, many will tell you the dual Xeons are worth the extra money over the dual AMDs, but I can't justify it just yet. The latest AMD MP chips run a bit hotter but overall they perform extremely well.

If you do decide to go with the dual AMD chips, be prepared to tweak Windows XP Pro to the max.

Adi Head · December 1st, 2002, 04:59 PM

thanks all. what exactly does "tweak to the max" mean? my knowledge of computers is limited.

Jason Wood · December 1st, 2002, 06:20 PM

XP tweaks...

http://www.videoguys.com/WinXP.html

Adi Head · December 2nd, 2002, 09:59 AM

what is the best effects/color correction software to work with on a system with avid xpress dv 3.5?

regarding AE:
i know of conflicts between avid xpress dv and premiere if on same system.
does after effects cause the same conflict? i though it might since its also adobe.

thanks.

Jason Wood · December 2nd, 2002, 11:01 AM

No, After Effects works like a charm with XDV. Get Automatic Duck and it will work even better.

And XDV has really really good in App Color Correction.

Gary Bettan · December 2nd, 2002, 11:54 AM

Boris Continuum Complete

The plug-ins a re seemless wit the Avid interface. They render fast as hell. real-time FX are coming by year end (FREE download to registered users)

Check out this new insider interview for more info http://www.videoguys.com/videoguy-bfx2.html

Gary

Adi Head · December 2nd, 2002, 06:36 PM

cool so as far as image control with after effects or with boris, i should have no problems using xdv 3.5.

what about sound software? i've read a couple of threads listed here on the subject, but didn't really get an idea if there is sound software which works better/worse with xpress dv 3.5.
basically interested in the following:
protools
cubase
sound forge
sonar

thanks.

Gary Bettan · December 3rd, 2002, 07:42 AM

XDV 3.5 includes a suite of audio tools. It alos includes about a dozen pro-tools plug-ins. Ypu can add additional pro-tools plug-ins to XDV.

Gary
Videoguys.com

Rob Lohman · December 5th, 2002, 12:00 PM

I would not go with a dual processor system either. Put your money
that you save elsewhere. Memory and especially harddisk space
(or a DVD burner?) is much more interesting in my opinion.

And if AVID is not multi processor aware you will not gain
any speed increase at all (almost).

Good luck with your choice.

November 30th, 2002, 01:38 PM	#46
Brad Herbert New Boot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 20	Dual Athlon Setup This is just my .02 but I would probably just stick with a one processor setup, and put the money towards more HD space and xtra software packages. I have been running 3.5 on my Single Athlon XP1800 setup on a Soyo Dragon Plus Platinum MB for about $350 total. One fast processor renders FX pretty fast, and is plenty sufficient for recording/playback/Realtime FX with no problems. With the savings of the Xtra processor and board that supports it you could buy another 20 Hours worth of storage. Just thought I would chime in. -Brad

December 2nd, 2002, 09:59 AM	#50
Adi Head Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 642	effects software w/ avid xpress dv3.5 what is the best effects/color correction software to work with on a system with avid xpress dv 3.5? regarding AE: i know of conflicts between avid xpress dv and premiere if on same system. does after effects cause the same conflict? i though it might since its also adobe. thanks.

December 2nd, 2002, 11:54 AM	#52
Gary Bettan Sponsor: Electronic Mailbox Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 758	Boris Continuum Complete The plug-ins a re seemless wit the Avid interface. They render fast as hell. real-time FX are coming by year end (FREE download to registered users) Check out this new insider interview for more info http://www.videoguys.com/videoguy-bfx2.html Gary __________________ Check out http://www.videoguys.com 800 323-2325 We are the video editing and live video production experts! DV InfoNet members save 5%! Use Coupon Code DVINFO5OFF

December 3rd, 2002, 07:42 AM	#54
Gary Bettan Sponsor: Electronic Mailbox Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 758	XDV 3.5 includes a suite of audio tools. It alos includes about a dozen pro-tools plug-ins. Ypu can add additional pro-tools plug-ins to XDV. Gary Videoguys.com __________________ Check out http://www.videoguys.com 800 323-2325 We are the video editing and live video production experts! DV InfoNet members save 5%! Use Coupon Code DVINFO5OFF

December 5th, 2002, 12:00 PM	#55
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I would not go with a dual processor system either. Put your money that you save elsewhere. Memory and especially harddisk space (or a DVD burner?) is much more interesting in my opinion. And if AVID is not multi processor aware you will not gain any speed increase at all (almost). Good luck with your choice. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 30th, 2002, 01:45 PM	#47
Jason Wood Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 87	I'm running dual AMD chips with XDV and I haven't had any problems. True they are not supported by Avid, but Avid only offers free support for 30 days, then you have to pay for the support period...And let me tell you, their support isn't very good to begin with. I find the Avid forums to be of greater help. If I were building a system JUST for XDV I would go with a single processor. XDV doesn't really take advantage of the second chip. I've heard XDV performs only 25 to 50% faster than a single chip machine. If you do a lot of After Effects work...then I do recommend dual processors. AE is true multithreaded software. As far as the Pentium Xeons VS AMD, many will tell you the dual Xeons are worth the extra money over the dual AMDs, but I can't justify it just yet. The latest AMD MP chips run a bit hotter but overall they perform extremely well. If you do decide to go with the dual AMD chips, be prepared to tweak Windows XP Pro to the max.

December 1st, 2002, 04:59 PM	#48
Adi Head Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 642	thanks all. what exactly does "tweak to the max" mean? my knowledge of computers is limited.

December 1st, 2002, 06:20 PM	#49
Jason Wood Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 87	XP tweaks... http://www.videoguys.com/WinXP.html

December 2nd, 2002, 11:01 AM	#51
Jason Wood Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 87	No, After Effects works like a charm with XDV. Get Automatic Duck and it will work even better. And XDV has really really good in App Color Correction.

December 2nd, 2002, 06:36 PM	#53
Adi Head Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 642	cool so as far as image control with after effects or with boris, i should have no problems using xdv 3.5. what about sound software? i've read a couple of threads listed here on the subject, but didn't really get an idea if there is sound software which works better/worse with xpress dv 3.5. basically interested in the following: protools cubase sound forge sonar thanks.