Still no JVC HDV 24p support... at DVinfo.net

David Parks · April 15th, 2007, 07:50 PM

That's it. No Xpress JVC 24p.. FCP 6 won. That's all I have to say about that.

Avid didn't announce anything significant...I'm really disappointed,, but impressed with FCP Studio 2...

Goodbye Avid.....

Steve Benner · April 15th, 2007, 08:00 PM

I saw the press release as well. Utterly pathetic. I just ordered my FCS 2 Upgrade from 1. I am fully converting to Apple. I will not even bother cutting on my Avid anymore. Not even worth it.

Apple owned Avid big time. Finally, no one at Avid can bitch about Media Management thanks to Final Cut Sever, no more better color correcting on Avids thanks to Color, and now we have an Open Timeline WITH FRAME RATES as well, something Avid doesn't even have. YES TO FINAL CUT.

David Parks · April 15th, 2007, 08:18 PM

Well Steve, I'm with you pal. I'm curious if Avid even saw this coming. If they're sober, then they must realize that they are about to get their butts kicked in this market, if they haven't already. The ProRez codec is going to do wonders for FCP users.

I've added it up and I can get FCP 6, a MACPro, and the Aja I/O HD for only $3,000 more than Media Composer software only. FCP studio 6 with the I/O HD box is basically an Adrenaline, but even more. Adrenaline costs nearly $30k with the HD card. So, I won't upgrade my Xpress to Media Composer but will move to Apple FCP over the next few months. There is way to 0much bang for the buck to ignore. Plus, I don't have to deal with future Vista crap, or viruses, or dll errors, or fatal exceptions or....

Cheers.

Jiri Bakala · April 15th, 2007, 11:05 PM

Mojo and AXP dongle for sale...cheap! Oh heck, I will throw in a colour keyed Apple keyboard too...

Steve Benner · April 19th, 2007, 02:01 PM

Did anyone actually stop by the Avid booth and ask about 24 Frame HDV editing at all? Curious to see if anyone had ANY insight at all.

It is not just us JVC's users that are pissed, since the Canon and Sony cams aren't accepted at 24 Frames either.

Peter Moretti · May 13th, 2007, 02:47 AM

In the way of background, I had a problem installing Xpress Pro. Avid was AMAZINGLY helpful. (I know that probably sounds weird, but I was blown away!) The rep even called me from the NAB to be sure everything was going okay, gave me access to protected parts of Avid's website... I was beyond impressed.

Anyway, what I was told is that JVC HDV 24P and 24F support will be part of the next release. If this is really going to happen (only b/c it's been promised so many times in the past) IDK.

But in all honesty, my experience was fantastic with Avid. And the install problem wasn't even their fault.

Terry Lee · June 3rd, 2007, 09:55 PM

When is the next release?

What would be the best choice for a person using a Canon XH A1?

Sorry i'm alittle new to film editing.

Thanks.
Terry lee

Steve Benner · June 5th, 2007, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Lee

When is the next release?

What would be the best choice for a person using a Canon XH A1?

Sorry i'm alittle new to film editing.

Thanks.
Terry lee

Final Cut Studio 2. Avid hates your camera since it is HDV 24. DO NOT get AVID unless you are interested in Liquid.

Terry Lee · June 5th, 2007, 04:15 PM

So does Liquid support 24p in HDV? Or are there ups and downs to using Liquid?

George Ellis · June 5th, 2007, 05:52 PM

Liquid does 24p for the JVC. It does native M2V, so the rendering that some other NLEs do to edit is unnecessary. But it may not do 24p for Canon. It will do 24f.

http://www.avid.com/exchange/forums/thread/230478.aspx

edit - A down is that it does require a beefer PC. Dual cores and a higher end ATI gamer graphics card with 256MB of memory are HDV requirements...

/I have a Sony HC7, so do not do 24 fps (and it is not my cup of tea as I do event and sports video)

April 15th, 2007, 07:50 PM	#1
David Parks Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 789	Still no JVC HDV 24p support... That's it. No Xpress JVC 24p.. FCP 6 won. That's all I have to say about that. Avid didn't announce anything significant...I'm really disappointed,, but impressed with FCP Studio 2... Goodbye Avid..... __________________ David Parks: DP/Editor: Jacobs Aerospace at NASA Johnson Space Center https://www.youtube.com/user/JacobsESCG

April 15th, 2007, 08:18 PM	#3
David Parks Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 789	Well Steve, I'm with you pal. I'm curious if Avid even saw this coming. If they're sober, then they must realize that they are about to get their butts kicked in this market, if they haven't already. The ProRez codec is going to do wonders for FCP users. I've added it up and I can get FCP 6, a MACPro, and the Aja I/O HD for only $3,000 more than Media Composer software only. FCP studio 6 with the I/O HD box is basically an Adrenaline, but even more. Adrenaline costs nearly $30k with the HD card. So, I won't upgrade my Xpress to Media Composer but will move to Apple FCP over the next few months. There is way to 0much bang for the buck to ignore. Plus, I don't have to deal with future Vista crap, or viruses, or dll errors, or fatal exceptions or.... Cheers. __________________ David Parks: DP/Editor: Jacobs Aerospace at NASA Johnson Space Center https://www.youtube.com/user/JacobsESCG

April 15th, 2007, 11:05 PM	#4
Jiri Bakala Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kelowna BC Canada Posts: 706	Mojo and AXP dongle for sale...cheap! Oh heck, I will throw in a colour keyed Apple keyboard too... __________________ www.ascentfilms.com

April 15th, 2007, 08:00 PM	#2
Steve Benner Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 590	I saw the press release as well. Utterly pathetic. I just ordered my FCS 2 Upgrade from 1. I am fully converting to Apple. I will not even bother cutting on my Avid anymore. Not even worth it. Apple owned Avid big time. Finally, no one at Avid can bitch about Media Management thanks to Final Cut Sever, no more better color correcting on Avids thanks to Color, and now we have an Open Timeline WITH FRAME RATES as well, something Avid doesn't even have. YES TO FINAL CUT.

April 19th, 2007, 02:01 PM	#5
Steve Benner Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 590	Did anyone actually stop by the Avid booth and ask about 24 Frame HDV editing at all? Curious to see if anyone had ANY insight at all. It is not just us JVC's users that are pissed, since the Canon and Sony cams aren't accepted at 24 Frames either.

May 13th, 2007, 02:47 AM	#6
Peter Moretti Trustee Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 1,259	In the way of background, I had a problem installing Xpress Pro. Avid was AMAZINGLY helpful. (I know that probably sounds weird, but I was blown away!) The rep even called me from the NAB to be sure everything was going okay, gave me access to protected parts of Avid's website... I was beyond impressed. Anyway, what I was told is that JVC HDV 24P and 24F support will be part of the next release. If this is really going to happen (only b/c it's been promised so many times in the past) IDK. But in all honesty, my experience was fantastic with Avid. And the install problem wasn't even their fault.

June 3rd, 2007, 09:55 PM	#7
Terry Lee Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 691	When is the next release? What would be the best choice for a person using a Canon XH A1? Sorry i'm alittle new to film editing. Thanks. Terry lee

June 5th, 2007, 04:15 PM	#9
Terry Lee Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 691	So does Liquid support 24p in HDV? Or are there ups and downs to using Liquid?

June 5th, 2007, 05:52 PM	#10
George Ellis Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 1,241	Liquid does 24p for the JVC. It does native M2V, so the rendering that some other NLEs do to edit is unnecessary. But it may not do 24p for Canon. It will do 24f. http://www.avid.com/exchange/forums/thread/230478.aspx edit - A down is that it does require a beefer PC. Dual cores and a higher end ATI gamer graphics card with 256MB of memory are HDV requirements... /I have a Sony HC7, so do not do 24 fps (and it is not my cup of tea as I do event and sports video)