JVC HD100 and Avid Liquid at DVinfo.net

Steve Benner · December 6th, 2006, 09:20 PM

I know Liquid supports the HD100 in 24P, but was curious as to whether or not you needed the liquid pro setup? Mind you, I want to be able to directly import the .m2t's captured to my firestore. While I wait for Xpress/Composer support, I might want a Windows editing solutions and this seems like a good option.

Stephen L. Noe · December 6th, 2006, 11:31 PM

Hi,

You do not need the ProBOB (unless you are dumping to BetaSP) to work with ProHD. The sofware only version will allow you to do everything over 1394. You can import m2t's from the firestore or you can just link to the files for editing right off the firestore (for quicker turn around).

have fun,

Steve

David Parks · December 6th, 2006, 11:53 PM

I have had the same plan with Liquid since it supports Pro HD fully while Xpress Pro is falling behind FCP, Edius and others. I've slowly grown to like many things about Liquid's output flexibility range and color correction.

Steve Benner · December 7th, 2006, 10:02 AM

I downloaded the 7 Trial, and there is no setting for HDV 720/24P. I tried the 720/23.98P, but when I imported the file, the video was sped up. Not sure what the problem was? Is there a 720/24P HDV setting in 7.1?

Stephen L. Noe · December 7th, 2006, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Benner

I downloaded the 7 Trial, and there is no setting for HDV 720/24P. I tried the 720/23.98P, but when I imported the file, the video was sped up. Not sure what the problem was? Is there a 720/24P HDV setting in 7.1?

Describe what you've tried. Did you try and import a file or did you capture a file? Either way you can right click on the file in your rack area and take a look at it's properties and see what the system is reporting as the frame rate and datarate/codec.

For a ProHD 24fps timeline you must select 720/23.98

You can work directly in FILM if you're a "natural" 24fps (ie film sequence). If it came off a ProHD camera then you're working in 23.98 and you should setup the timeline accordingly.

Also the trial needs the service pack (available from the download area in Avid). Since your in that far into Avids web site you might as well get into the "Goodies" folder and download the free Magic Bullet II filters and the free HFXPro unlock key so you can use these valuable plugs in the interface.

Steve Benner · December 7th, 2006, 10:29 AM

Liquid is saying the clips are 59.94. When importing, the program is not removing the pulldown. Is there something I need to do for this? Again, I am capturing right to the DR-HD100 in .m2t.

Stephen L. Noe · December 7th, 2006, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Benner

Liquid is saying the clips are 59.94. When importing, the program is not removing the pulldown. Is there something I need to do for this? Again, I am capturing right to the DR-HD100 in .m2t.

Did you put service pack 1 on your install?

Steve Benner · December 7th, 2006, 10:48 AM

There are two service packs for Liquid 7.1 but the free one is still only 7. I tried installing the Service pack for 7, but it didn't work.

Stephen L. Noe · December 7th, 2006, 04:01 PM

It must be something simple, Steve. I don't know your experience level with Liquid products but it's probably a setting you're overlooking.

Quite alot of people on the boards have it working so it almost certainly is a slight oversite. Have you looked at my tutorial??

Steve Benner · December 7th, 2006, 04:42 PM

I imagine it will work fine, especially when I get the real version. I was really just concerned with if I need the Pro version or not and I happened to come across the Trial and see for myself. Thanks for all the help though.

Daniel Patton · December 7th, 2006, 05:21 PM

Steve,

Maybe Stephen would let you send him one of the short clips (if you have any that small) to see if he runs into the same problem.

Just a thought.

December 6th, 2006, 09:20 PM	#1
Steve Benner Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 590	JVC HD100 and Avid Liquid I know Liquid supports the HD100 in 24P, but was curious as to whether or not you needed the liquid pro setup? Mind you, I want to be able to directly import the .m2t's captured to my firestore. While I wait for Xpress/Composer support, I might want a Windows editing solutions and this seems like a good option.

December 6th, 2006, 11:31 PM	#2
Stephen L. Noe Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,214	Hi, You do not need the ProBOB (unless you are dumping to BetaSP) to work with ProHD. The sofware only version will allow you to do everything over 1394. You can import m2t's from the firestore or you can just link to the files for editing right off the firestore (for quicker turn around). have fun, Steve __________________ Advanced Avid Liquid Training found Here

December 6th, 2006, 11:53 PM	#3
David Parks Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 789	I have had the same plan with Liquid since it supports Pro HD fully while Xpress Pro is falling behind FCP, Edius and others. I've slowly grown to like many things about Liquid's output flexibility range and color correction. __________________ David Parks: DP/Editor: Jacobs Aerospace at NASA Johnson Space Center https://www.youtube.com/user/JacobsESCG

December 7th, 2006, 04:01 PM	#9
Stephen L. Noe Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,214	It must be something simple, Steve. I don't know your experience level with Liquid products but it's probably a setting you're overlooking. Quite alot of people on the boards have it working so it almost certainly is a slight oversite. Have you looked at my tutorial?? __________________ Advanced Avid Liquid Training found Here

December 7th, 2006, 05:21 PM	#11
Daniel Patton Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Knoxville TN Posts: 589	Steve, Maybe Stephen would let you send him one of the short clips (if you have any that small) to see if he runs into the same problem. Just a thought. __________________ Our eyes allow us to see the world - The lens allows others to see the world through our eyes. RED ONE #977

December 7th, 2006, 10:02 AM	#4
Steve Benner Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 590	I downloaded the 7 Trial, and there is no setting for HDV 720/24P. I tried the 720/23.98P, but when I imported the file, the video was sped up. Not sure what the problem was? Is there a 720/24P HDV setting in 7.1?

December 7th, 2006, 10:29 AM	#6
Steve Benner Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 590	Liquid is saying the clips are 59.94. When importing, the program is not removing the pulldown. Is there something I need to do for this? Again, I am capturing right to the DR-HD100 in .m2t.

December 7th, 2006, 10:48 AM	#8
Steve Benner Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 590	There are two service packs for Liquid 7.1 but the free one is still only 7. I tried installing the Service pack for 7, but it didn't work.

December 7th, 2006, 04:42 PM	#10
Steve Benner Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 590	I imagine it will work fine, especially when I get the real version. I was really just concerned with if I need the Pro version or not and I happened to come across the Trial and see for myself. Thanks for all the help though.