recording hd100 720/24p to tape in Liquid at DVinfo.net

Nima Taheri · November 17th, 2006, 09:06 AM

I've been trying to dump a 720/24p uncompressed timeline onto the HD100 with Avid Liquid, but keep getting the error: "The Timeline Format can't be recorded with the selected recorder".

The camera mode is in HDV 24p (and the dv/hdv switch is on hdv). In Liquid the recorder is the JVC Device, and works perfectly when logging/capturing 24p. Shouldn't I be able to dump the timeline back to tape?

Nima Taheri · November 19th, 2006, 07:57 PM

bump... any liquid users? I'm at a dead end here... anything appreciated

Steve Benner · November 19th, 2006, 08:12 PM

I am not a Liquid User, but if you are editing Uncompressed, then it is not in HDV and the JVC HD100 encodes HDV-1 tracks to tape. That may be your problem.

Antony Michael Wilson · November 20th, 2006, 05:37 AM

Yes - you have to encode to HDV1 first and then export to tape. It won't be pretty!

Chris Hurd · November 20th, 2006, 07:09 AM

Moved here from JVC ProHD forum.

Stephen L. Noe · November 20th, 2006, 08:19 AM

Yes, you can dump right back to tape without an issue. The key is to setup your "player" setting in the control panel to dump ProHD instead of the default MicroMV for Mpeg streams. If you've seen my tutorial on dumping back to tape then you should have no problem at all Nima.

S.Noe

Nima Taheri · November 20th, 2006, 11:00 AM

Stephen:

Thank you for the tip. I changed the mpg streams to ProHD, still didn't work. But in the camera, I changed the video format to 30/60 instead of 24 before starting the export, and the export process started. I cancelled it, caus I have to render the whole thing first right now (which takes about 2 hours). Is the camera recording the timeline in 24p even if it's in 30/60 mode? I thought maybe it will, since the streams in&out are actually 60...

also, in the video output setup, what are the correct settings?
1. DV Output Format (DV/DVCPRO)
2. MPEG Output Format (ProHD/25 and ProHD/30)

the footage is 720/24p exported uncompressed to the HD101 for either NTSC or PAL broadcast.

Stephen L. Noe · November 20th, 2006, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nima Taheri

Stephen:

Thank you for the tip. I changed the mpg streams to ProHD, still didn't work. But in the camera, I changed the video format to 30/60 instead of 24 before starting the export, and the export process started. I cancelled it, caus I have to render the whole thing first right now (which takes about 2 hours). Is the camera recording the timeline in 24p even if it's in 30/60 mode? I thought maybe it will, since the streams in&out are actually 60...

also, in the video output setup, what are the correct settings?
1. DV Output Format (DV/DVCPRO)
2. MPEG Output Format (ProHD/25 and ProHD/30)

the footage is 720/24p exported uncompressed to the HD101 for either NTSC or PAL broadcast.

Remember that the 24p is buried in the 60p stream with place holders. Your camera display will show 24p as well as the deck display. This is correct. Set your ouput in Liquid to ProHD 30 and you'll be all set. Piece of cake...

November 17th, 2006, 09:06 AM	#1
Nima Taheri Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 136	recording hd100 720/24p to tape in Liquid I've been trying to dump a 720/24p uncompressed timeline onto the HD100 with Avid Liquid, but keep getting the error: "The Timeline Format can't be recorded with the selected recorder". The camera mode is in HDV 24p (and the dv/hdv switch is on hdv). In Liquid the recorder is the JVC Device, and works perfectly when logging/capturing 24p. Shouldn't I be able to dump the timeline back to tape?

November 20th, 2006, 07:09 AM	#5
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Moved here from JVC ProHD forum. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 20th, 2006, 08:19 AM	#6
Stephen L. Noe Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,214	Yes, you can dump right back to tape without an issue. The key is to setup your "player" setting in the control panel to dump ProHD instead of the default MicroMV for Mpeg streams. If you've seen my tutorial on dumping back to tape then you should have no problem at all Nima. S.Noe __________________ Advanced Avid Liquid Training found Here

November 19th, 2006, 07:57 PM	#2
Nima Taheri Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 136	bump... any liquid users? I'm at a dead end here... anything appreciated

November 19th, 2006, 08:12 PM	#3
Steve Benner Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 590	I am not a Liquid User, but if you are editing Uncompressed, then it is not in HDV and the JVC HD100 encodes HDV-1 tracks to tape. That may be your problem.

November 20th, 2006, 05:37 AM	#4
Antony Michael Wilson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 343	Yes - you have to encode to HDV1 first and then export to tape. It won't be pretty!

November 20th, 2006, 11:00 AM	#7
Nima Taheri Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 136	Stephen: Thank you for the tip. I changed the mpg streams to ProHD, still didn't work. But in the camera, I changed the video format to 30/60 instead of 24 before starting the export, and the export process started. I cancelled it, caus I have to render the whole thing first right now (which takes about 2 hours). Is the camera recording the timeline in 24p even if it's in 30/60 mode? I thought maybe it will, since the streams in&out are actually 60... also, in the video output setup, what are the correct settings? 1. DV Output Format (DV/DVCPRO) 2. MPEG Output Format (ProHD/25 and ProHD/30) the footage is 720/24p exported uncompressed to the HD101 for either NTSC or PAL broadcast.