Is there an app to play raw avchd consecutively? at DVinfo.net

Dana Salsbury · November 19th, 2009, 08:49 PM

We would love to provide SDEs at weddings. We're just too busy. If I had an app on my laptop (or even better on my camera) that plays the raw avchd files consecutively? I'm thinking that I could copy the files from the card to the laptop and put the best ones back onto the card. Would that work? Does the Playstation do that?

Chris Harding · November 19th, 2009, 11:22 PM

Hi Dana

Panasonic tell you not to copy stuff to the card the normal way as the thumbnails get corrupted BUT you can use HD Writer to do the job I believe???

I'm assuming your HMC170's have an HDMI output..they surely must have as my HMC72's have one and the software that came with the camera does have a writeback feature. However one assumes you will write to a fresh card not your precious raw footage????

Should look awesome at the reception!!!

Chris

Robert Young · November 20th, 2009, 01:55 AM

The free "VLC Media Player" will play AVCHD consecutively.
Open the player, go "media>open folder" browse for the folder with the avchd files & hit play. It displays the filename on start of each clip, so you could transfer the contents of your card to the laptop, preview, identify & delete unwanted files & then VLC will play the remaining (desired) files consecutively. Meanwhile, you haven't tampered with your source card at all.
A simple way to do this.

Dana Salsbury · November 20th, 2009, 02:10 AM

Wow! Cool things from Australia and Hawaii!

@Chris,
I don't remember getting any software with my HMC150, but I do have HDMI, and even if I had to edit on a laptop, I would rather do the presentation from my camera to avoid any popups or hard drive dizziness!

@Robert,
I just found that VLC is also available for Mac. I will try that. Are you saying that it will put up the filename at the beginning of each clip? That would kill any presentation unless I could eliminate that text.

Thanks guys!

Robert Young · November 20th, 2009, 11:47 AM

It does display the filename for a second or two @ the beginning of each clip.
May be a way to kill that, but I've never looked for it.

Chris Harding · November 20th, 2009, 05:14 PM

Hi Dana

I never found a way to kill the file name on VLC player but it does a good job playing raw files!!!

Did you look at the free software Panasonic have on their website???? They should have something there.

https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro...e/download.htm

Your other option is to use a standalone media player..they are pretty cheap now (under $200 here) and have a built-in HDD plus will play from card or USB and have HDMI output too. That way you could do a quick edit and copy the footage directly to the player and leave it running at the reception which would also leave your laptop and camera free for use!!

Chris

Dana Salsbury · November 22nd, 2009, 12:35 AM

MTSMerger might be the ticket, but I could never get it to work. It's designed to merge the M2t files to ease editing (kind of like what you can do in Log and Capture). If I could take the choice clips off many cards and stick them in order on an MTSMerger, then I could take the one large M2t file and stick it on a cam-formatted card and play it through my HDMI port on my HMC150.

I suppose I could also use MPEG Streamclip to edit the m2t files in order to cut the rough ends off the clips...

So I'm at a wedding and have 30 minutes to put together a show. I pop my sdhc cards in the multi-reader, and launch fcp, Log and Transfer to preview the clips. Noting the ones I want and the time total, I open MPEG Streamclip to cut the clips, saving them to a new folder. I put them in order and take those clips into MTSMerger to merge into one m2t file, saved to a formatted sdhc card that I haven't written to. My keeping track of time codes I match it with a loosely syncopated song of the same length. I have the DJ start the song at the same time as I play the M2t file on the camera.

Angelo Alberico · November 24th, 2009, 10:43 PM

The PS3 does a WONDERFUL job at playing AVCHD/mts files.

Bhanu Neti · November 25th, 2009, 02:40 PM

Windows Media Player 12 plays AVCHD mts files natively on Windows 7 PC.
I point to AVCHD->BDMV->STREAM folder and play with Windows Media player. They play without an issue.

Paulo Teixeira · November 26th, 2009, 10:36 PM

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2009...vable-bundles/
The PS3 is perfect for that and if you must have a program than download this at the bottom.
Splash - Next Generation Player

Dana Salsbury · November 27th, 2009, 12:56 AM

@ Bhanu
Does it play clips back to back seamlessly and w/o titles?

Thanks!

Paulo Teixeira · November 27th, 2009, 11:11 AM

What's wrong with Splash? It seams like what your looking for.

Bhanu Neti · November 29th, 2009, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dana Salsbury

@ Bhanu
Does it play clips back to back seamlessly and w/o titles?

Thanks!

Dana,
The titles(filenames) are not shown in full screen view mode in media player.
I select all the clips in the stream folder and right click and select add to the Windows Media Player list. They play one after the other with a black transition.

Thanks
Bhanu

Dana Salsbury · November 29th, 2009, 02:09 PM

Hmm... Well I guess it's an option, but with the black separators it would be hard to sync with music and make it look natural. It sounds like I'd need a timeline to do it right, but if things go wrong this would be a good Plan B, provided that I could fade in and out as more of a video slide show.

I'm going to test the time it takes to bring the clips into the timeline and render a completed video to see how much time it really eats up. If I got it transferring before the Grand Entrance, then I could film that, edit, eat & Edit simultaneously and hopefully have it ready to render before the first batch of events. Once rendered, I'd just plug it in for the show.

Bob Kittleson · January 4th, 2010, 11:16 PM

I'm late to this thread, but I'll add another recommendation for Splash:
Splash - Next Generation Player

It will play clips consecutively and provides excellent visual quality (better than VLC in my experience).

November 19th, 2009, 08:49 PM	#1
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	Is there an app to play raw avchd consecutively? We would love to provide SDEs at weddings. We're just too busy. If I had an app on my laptop (or even better on my camera) that plays the raw avchd files consecutively? I'm thinking that I could copy the files from the card to the laptop and put the best ones back onto the card. Would that work? Does the Playstation do that? __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

November 20th, 2009, 01:55 AM	#3
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	The free "VLC Media Player" will play AVCHD consecutively. Open the player, go "media>open folder" browse for the folder with the avchd files & hit play. It displays the filename on start of each clip, so you could transfer the contents of your card to the laptop, preview, identify & delete unwanted files & then VLC will play the remaining (desired) files consecutively. Meanwhile, you haven't tampered with your source card at all. A simple way to do this. __________________ Bob

November 20th, 2009, 02:10 AM	#4
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	Wow! Cool things from Australia and Hawaii! @Chris, I don't remember getting any software with my HMC150, but I do have HDMI, and even if I had to edit on a laptop, I would rather do the presentation from my camera to avoid any popups or hard drive dizziness! @Robert, I just found that VLC is also available for Mac. I will try that. Are you saying that it will put up the filename at the beginning of each clip? That would kill any presentation unless I could eliminate that text. Thanks guys! __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

November 20th, 2009, 11:47 AM	#5
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	It does display the filename for a second or two @ the beginning of each clip. May be a way to kill that, but I've never looked for it. __________________ Bob

November 22nd, 2009, 12:35 AM	#7
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	MTSMerger might be the ticket, but I could never get it to work. It's designed to merge the M2t files to ease editing (kind of like what you can do in Log and Capture). If I could take the choice clips off many cards and stick them in order on an MTSMerger, then I could take the one large M2t file and stick it on a cam-formatted card and play it through my HDMI port on my HMC150. I suppose I could also use MPEG Streamclip to edit the m2t files in order to cut the rough ends off the clips... So I'm at a wedding and have 30 minutes to put together a show. I pop my sdhc cards in the multi-reader, and launch fcp, Log and Transfer to preview the clips. Noting the ones I want and the time total, I open MPEG Streamclip to cut the clips, saving them to a new folder. I put them in order and take those clips into MTSMerger to merge into one m2t file, saved to a formatted sdhc card that I haven't written to. My keeping track of time codes I match it with a loosely syncopated song of the same length. I have the DJ start the song at the same time as I play the M2t file on the camera. __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

November 19th, 2009, 11:22 PM	#2
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Hi Dana Panasonic tell you not to copy stuff to the card the normal way as the thumbnails get corrupted BUT you can use HD Writer to do the job I believe??? I'm assuming your HMC170's have an HDMI output..they surely must have as my HMC72's have one and the software that came with the camera does have a writeback feature. However one assumes you will write to a fresh card not your precious raw footage???? Should look awesome at the reception!!! Chris

November 20th, 2009, 05:14 PM	#6
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Hi Dana I never found a way to kill the file name on VLC player but it does a good job playing raw files!!! Did you look at the free software Panasonic have on their website???? They should have something there. https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro...e/download.htm Your other option is to use a standalone media player..they are pretty cheap now (under $200 here) and have a built-in HDD plus will play from card or USB and have HDMI output too. That way you could do a quick edit and copy the footage directly to the player and leave it running at the reception which would also leave your laptop and camera free for use!! Chris

November 24th, 2009, 10:43 PM	#8
Angelo Alberico New Boot Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lakewood, CA Posts: 5	The PS3 does a WONDERFUL job at playing AVCHD/mts files.

November 25th, 2009, 02:40 PM	#9
Bhanu Neti Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 60	Windows Media Player 12 plays AVCHD mts files natively on Windows 7 PC. I point to AVCHD->BDMV->STREAM folder and play with Windows Media player. They play without an issue.

November 26th, 2009, 10:36 PM	#10
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	http://playstationlifestyle.net/2009...vable-bundles/ The PS3 is perfect for that and if you must have a program than download this at the bottom. Splash - Next Generation Player __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot

November 27th, 2009, 12:56 AM	#11
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	@ Bhanu Does it play clips back to back seamlessly and w/o titles? Thanks! __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

November 27th, 2009, 11:11 AM	#12
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	What's wrong with Splash? It seams like what your looking for. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot

November 29th, 2009, 02:09 PM	#14
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	Hmm... Well I guess it's an option, but with the black separators it would be hard to sync with music and make it look natural. It sounds like I'd need a timeline to do it right, but if things go wrong this would be a good Plan B, provided that I could fade in and out as more of a video slide show. I'm going to test the time it takes to bring the clips into the timeline and render a completed video to see how much time it really eats up. If I got it transferring before the Grand Entrance, then I could film that, edit, eat & Edit simultaneously and hopefully have it ready to render before the first batch of events. Once rendered, I'd just plug it in for the show. __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

January 4th, 2010, 11:16 PM	#15
Bob Kittleson New Boot Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 16	I'm late to this thread, but I'll add another recommendation for Splash: Splash - Next Generation Player It will play clips consecutively and provides excellent visual quality (better than VLC in my experience).