Help Needed with Atomos Samurai at DVinfo.net

Chuck Fishbein · March 12th, 2012, 10:12 AM

Previously, I had been using the Atomos at 1080i with out a problem.
I am currently having issues recording 23.98 with the Samurai

F3=HQ 23.98 PsF
Atomos=3:2 23.98P ProRes HQ

If I set the F3 to 23.98 PsF it works fine, but I can't use the Zacuto EVF witch requires 1080i
When I set the F3 output to 59.94 (2-3) the EVF works, the Samurai detects the pulldown (monitor button lights) but I get a nasty studder with interlacing.

I was under the impression that the Atomos was supposed to detect and remove the 3:2 pulldown.
Am I totally missing the point here? Can anyone give me any suggestions?

Thanks

Douglas Villalba · March 12th, 2012, 10:52 AM

Camera set to 23.98 HDMI output 60i
Samurai connected to SDI A
Zacuto to HDMI out

Chuck Fishbein · March 12th, 2012, 11:36 AM

"Samurai connected to SDI A"'

Ah... As opposed to the plain SDI out?

Douglas Villalba · March 12th, 2012, 11:40 AM

SDI Out & HDMI carry the same signal with pulldown added. Recorder goes to SDI A.

Douglas Villalba · March 12th, 2012, 12:22 PM

By the way, whomever moved this thread should know that this is an F3 thread problem. It is not a recorder problem but a connection to the F3 problem.

Chuck Fishbein · March 12th, 2012, 12:31 PM

Thanks Douglas,
I'll try that right now.

Chuck Fishbein · March 12th, 2012, 12:47 PM

Ok, it's working. Again my thanks

And for the benefit of those going through this for the first time:

At first it didn't work when I switched on the dual channel SDI out (for channel A) but then I noticed that the menu no longer said (SDI/HDMI) on/off, it now just said (HD HDMI) on/off . Once I changed that it appears they're all working, and no pull-down is indicated on the Samurai.

March 12th, 2012, 10:12 AM	#1
Chuck Fishbein Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Weehawken New Jersey Posts: 210	Help Needed with Atomos Samurai Previously, I had been using the Atomos at 1080i with out a problem. I am currently having issues recording 23.98 with the Samurai F3=HQ 23.98 PsF Atomos=3:2 23.98P ProRes HQ If I set the F3 to 23.98 PsF it works fine, but I can't use the Zacuto EVF witch requires 1080i When I set the F3 output to 59.94 (2-3) the EVF works, the Samurai detects the pulldown (monitor button lights) but I get a nasty studder with interlacing. I was under the impression that the Atomos was supposed to detect and remove the 3:2 pulldown. Am I totally missing the point here? Can anyone give me any suggestions? Thanks

March 12th, 2012, 10:52 AM	#2
Douglas Villalba Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Miami, Florida, USA Posts: 479	Re: Help Needed with Atomos Samurai Camera set to 23.98 HDMI output 60i Samurai connected to SDI A Zacuto to HDMI out __________________ Douglas Villalba - director/cinematographer/editor Miami, Florida, USA - www.DVtvPRODUCTIONS.com

March 12th, 2012, 11:36 AM	#3
Chuck Fishbein Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Weehawken New Jersey Posts: 210	Re: Help Needed with Atomos Samurai "Samurai connected to SDI A"' Ah... As opposed to the plain SDI out?

March 12th, 2012, 11:40 AM	#4
Douglas Villalba Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Miami, Florida, USA Posts: 479	Re: Help Needed with Atomos Samurai SDI Out & HDMI carry the same signal with pulldown added. Recorder goes to SDI A. __________________ Douglas Villalba - director/cinematographer/editor Miami, Florida, USA - www.DVtvPRODUCTIONS.com

March 12th, 2012, 12:22 PM	#5
Douglas Villalba Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Miami, Florida, USA Posts: 479	Re: Help Needed with Atomos Samurai By the way, whomever moved this thread should know that this is an F3 thread problem. It is not a recorder problem but a connection to the F3 problem. __________________ Douglas Villalba - director/cinematographer/editor Miami, Florida, USA - www.DVtvPRODUCTIONS.com

March 12th, 2012, 12:31 PM	#6
Chuck Fishbein Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Weehawken New Jersey Posts: 210	Re: Help Needed with Atomos Samurai Thanks Douglas, I'll try that right now.

March 12th, 2012, 12:47 PM	#7
Chuck Fishbein Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Weehawken New Jersey Posts: 210	Re: Help Needed with Atomos Samurai Ok, it's working. Again my thanks And for the benefit of those going through this for the first time: At first it didn't work when I switched on the dual channel SDI out (for channel A) but then I noticed that the menu no longer said (SDI/HDMI) on/off, it now just said (HD HDMI) on/off . Once I changed that it appears they're all working, and no pull-down is indicated on the Samurai.