Atomos Ninja - The DR60

Joeri Grandry · November 6th, 2011, 01:35 AM

Which one is the best?

I use a Sony FX-7

The porpuse of the device should be similtanous recording with de Mini-dv tape, So I have an instant back-up in case somethig goes wrong with the tape

I would like a method that could hold at least 3 hours of filming - so I don't have to make a copy on my laptop every hour.

I read that the ninja could hold a HDD of 750MB ( good for 16.5 hours of recording )

Or is there a better device?

Can someone give me more information

Dominic Witherow · November 7th, 2011, 10:44 AM

If you just want a backup copy of your tapes, then the Ninja is overkill, as it records in ProRes at 220 mbits/s or more (HQ version), whereas your HDV original is only 25mbits/s. However, if you want a high quality recording then the Ninja is excellent and easy to use with cheap media. The other solutions are HDV recorders, so will give you an exact copy of your tapes. D

Joeri Grandry · November 7th, 2011, 07:42 PM

No i want to use it als recoring device - because i had some problems erlier with tapes.

I also want to make sure i can use it with my Sony FX-7

Marty Hudzik · November 8th, 2011, 07:47 AM

I think what he is saying is there are other devices out there that record to solid state media in the same format that you are recording to tape. You get the same exact quality, but in a file based format. So you would theoretically have the tape version and an identical version on the solid state device.

If you go with the Ninja, you will be recording an a different format completely. This is actually preferred because the Ninja will record higher bit-rate, more color information into a better codec than your camera, making that footage look better than your tape based footage. This is ideal if your goal is to have higher quality footage. However, the files you capture off the tape are not going to be identical to the files recorded on the Ninja since it is a completey different format.

So....if your goal is just to have redundant copies of the clips you shoot in the exact same format, the ninja is not ideal. However....for the price....it seems the increase in quality would be a no-brainer.

Dominic Witherow · November 16th, 2011, 04:12 AM

yes, that's exactly what I wanted to say! :-)

November 6th, 2011, 01:35 AM	#1
Joeri Grandry New Boot Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Blankenberge, BELGIUM Posts: 9	Atomos Ninja - The DR60 - MRC1k Which one is the best? I use a Sony FX-7 The porpuse of the device should be similtanous recording with de Mini-dv tape, So I have an instant back-up in case somethig goes wrong with the tape I would like a method that could hold at least 3 hours of filming - so I don't have to make a copy on my laptop every hour. I read that the ninja could hold a HDD of 750MB ( good for 16.5 hours of recording ) Or is there a better device? Can someone give me more information

November 7th, 2011, 10:44 AM	#2
Dominic Witherow Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chobham, UK Posts: 33	Re: Atomos Ninja - The DR60 - MRC1k If you just want a backup copy of your tapes, then the Ninja is overkill, as it records in ProRes at 220 mbits/s or more (HQ version), whereas your HDV original is only 25mbits/s. However, if you want a high quality recording then the Ninja is excellent and easy to use with cheap media. The other solutions are HDV recorders, so will give you an exact copy of your tapes. D

November 7th, 2011, 07:42 PM	#3
Joeri Grandry New Boot Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Blankenberge, BELGIUM Posts: 9	Re: Atomos Ninja - The DR60 - MRC1k No i want to use it als recoring device - because i had some problems erlier with tapes. I also want to make sure i can use it with my Sony FX-7

November 8th, 2011, 07:47 AM	#4
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	Re: Atomos Ninja - The DR60 - MRC1k I think what he is saying is there are other devices out there that record to solid state media in the same format that you are recording to tape. You get the same exact quality, but in a file based format. So you would theoretically have the tape version and an identical version on the solid state device. If you go with the Ninja, you will be recording an a different format completely. This is actually preferred because the Ninja will record higher bit-rate, more color information into a better codec than your camera, making that footage look better than your tape based footage. This is ideal if your goal is to have higher quality footage. However, the files you capture off the tape are not going to be identical to the files recorded on the Ninja since it is a completey different format. So....if your goal is just to have redundant copies of the clips you shoot in the exact same format, the ninja is not ideal. However....for the price....it seems the increase in quality would be a no-brainer.

November 16th, 2011, 04:12 AM	#5
Dominic Witherow Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chobham, UK Posts: 33	Re: Atomos Ninja - The DR60 - MRC1k yes, that's exactly what I wanted to say! :-)