ATOMOS Subforum?

Alister Chapman · December 11th, 2011, 10:17 AM

Most cameras have some grain and noise. The F3 is very good, probably one of the quietest HD cameras around these days.

I had an H1, it is a great camera. Perhaps a little noisy by todays standards, but still a very capable camera. PC's can often end up looking noisy as there are all kinds of gamma changes and frame rate changes going on before the image makes it to the screen. A TV will very often have some kind of noise reduction circuit.

Matthew Hurley · December 11th, 2011, 11:53 AM

Heads up to those fellow Sony FS-100 owners out there. The Atomos Ninja WILL NOT currently work with the LANC OUT from the camera into the LANC IN on the Atomos Ninja! Hopefully Atomos is going to address this issue in the very near future.

On another note, the AJA KiPro Mini does work when slaved to the Sony FS-100's LANC OUT! It is interesting that if one delves deep into the Knowledge area on the Atomos website that they are aware of this issue and are asking Sony for guidance in alleviating the issue.

Kind of odd if you ask me. The AJA KiPro coupled with the Sony FS-100 see's the camera just fine and slaves properly in the Rec/Standby mode.

Anyone know what the difference is here? Meaning what different in the FS-100 LANC wise than other Sony camera,s?

Marty Hudzik · December 13th, 2011, 11:06 PM

In the case of the FS-100, why wouldn't you just use the HD-SDI as a trigger for the starting and stopping of the Samurai? I'd love this option but my camera doesn't support it, so I "have" to user the Lanc control. Is there a reason that you aren't utilizing this function?

Shaun Roemich · December 13th, 2011, 11:50 PM

Marty: FS100 doesn't have HD-SDI, only HDMI.

Marty Hudzik · December 14th, 2011, 11:46 AM

That's surprising to hear. I would have thought a camera of that caliber would have SDI out. Good to know. Edit: I just realized that he was referring to the Ninja which is HDMI only so I should have had a clue. Sorry.

Shaun Roemich · December 14th, 2011, 04:04 PM

VERY few sub $6k cameras have HD-SDI... I can only think of one.

Addendum: oops... Make that 2.

Marty Hudzik · December 15th, 2011, 07:40 AM

I guess that since the AF-100 has it I assumed it was on the fs-100 also. Good to know for future reference if I upgrade.

Cees van Kempen · December 17th, 2011, 05:09 PM

Does the Samurai have an option for pre-record buffer?

The website says 'ready to edit FCP7+. I suppose the files can easily be imported in FCP6, but just not be edited in the timleine straight from the device?

Shaun Roemich · December 17th, 2011, 08:56 PM

FCP 7 introduced ProRes LT. Perhaps that is the stipulation. I'm away from my edit bay right now so I can't test the files on my FCP 6 machine.

David Elkins · December 18th, 2011, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cees van Kempen

Does the Samurai have an option for pre-record buffer?

No, pre-record function is not an option. I suppose that could be added in a firmware update, would definitely be nice to have.

December 11th, 2011, 10:17 AM	#166
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Re: ATOMOS Subforum? Most cameras have some grain and noise. The F3 is very good, probably one of the quietest HD cameras around these days. I had an H1, it is a great camera. Perhaps a little noisy by todays standards, but still a very capable camera. PC's can often end up looking noisy as there are all kinds of gamma changes and frame rate changes going on before the image makes it to the screen. A TV will very often have some kind of noise reduction circuit. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

December 11th, 2011, 11:53 AM	#167
Matthew Hurley Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Atlanta Georgia USA Posts: 77	Re: ATOMOS Subforum? Heads up to those fellow Sony FS-100 owners out there. The Atomos Ninja WILL NOT currently work with the LANC OUT from the camera into the LANC IN on the Atomos Ninja! Hopefully Atomos is going to address this issue in the very near future. On another note, the AJA KiPro Mini does work when slaved to the Sony FS-100's LANC OUT! It is interesting that if one delves deep into the Knowledge area on the Atomos website that they are aware of this issue and are asking Sony for guidance in alleviating the issue. Kind of odd if you ask me. The AJA KiPro coupled with the Sony FS-100 see's the camera just fine and slaves properly in the Rec/Standby mode. Anyone know what the difference is here? Meaning what different in the FS-100 LANC wise than other Sony camera,s? __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/JustAnotherCameraMan

December 13th, 2011, 11:06 PM	#168
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	Re: ATOMOS Subforum? In the case of the FS-100, why wouldn't you just use the HD-SDI as a trigger for the starting and stopping of the Samurai? I'd love this option but my camera doesn't support it, so I "have" to user the Lanc control. Is there a reason that you aren't utilizing this function?

December 13th, 2011, 11:50 PM	#169
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	Re: ATOMOS Subforum? Marty: FS100 doesn't have HD-SDI, only HDMI. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

December 14th, 2011, 11:46 AM	#170
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	Re: ATOMOS Subforum? That's surprising to hear. I would have thought a camera of that caliber would have SDI out. Good to know. Edit: I just realized that he was referring to the Ninja which is HDMI only so I should have had a clue. Sorry. Last edited by Marty Hudzik; December 14th, 2011 at 02:54 PM. Reason: added info

December 14th, 2011, 04:04 PM	#171
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	Re: ATOMOS Subforum? VERY few sub $6k cameras have HD-SDI... I can only think of one. Addendum: oops... Make that 2. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/ Last edited by Shaun Roemich; December 15th, 2011 at 09:20 AM.

December 15th, 2011, 07:40 AM	#172
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	Re: ATOMOS Subforum? I guess that since the AF-100 has it I assumed it was on the fs-100 also. Good to know for future reference if I upgrade.

December 17th, 2011, 05:09 PM	#173
Cees van Kempen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nieuw-Vossemeer, The Netherlands Posts: 455	Re: ATOMOS Subforum? Does the Samurai have an option for pre-record buffer? The website says 'ready to edit FCP7+. I suppose the files can easily be imported in FCP6, but just not be edited in the timleine straight from the device?

December 17th, 2011, 08:56 PM	#174
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	Re: ATOMOS Subforum? FCP 7 introduced ProRes LT. Perhaps that is the stipulation. I'm away from my edit bay right now so I can't test the files on my FCP 6 machine. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/