h264 heir to the DVC30 and DVX100? at DVinfo.net

Kevin James · January 23rd, 2007, 11:55 AM

I am getting awfully close to going HDV, but I have been so happy with my Panny's that it is hard to switch to canon (a1).

Anyone have any input on Panny releasing some sort of HDV equiv. cameras?

Philip Williams · January 23rd, 2007, 10:17 PM

They've just got to be working on something. If I were a betting man I'd say a DVX 100 replacement with 24mbs AVCHD is on the way.

You know how it is, if you need a cam now there's not much point in waiting (there's always something better in the pipe). If you don't need a cam now, certainly won't hurt to wait.

Kevin James · January 23rd, 2007, 10:22 PM

Where does AVCHD fit in the compression scale of things?

Philip Williams · January 24th, 2007, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin James

Where does AVCHD fit in the compression scale of things?

There's an entire section of this site devoted to it. Essentially it SHOULD be better than HDV at similar data rates. Unfortunately every cam that's been released with the format is 100% consumer based and uses very low bitrates, so we just haven't seen an effort to exploit the full 24mbs potential of the codec on a more pro style cam. But I'd bet that's exactly what Panasonic is working on right now.

Frank Granovski · January 24th, 2007, 06:12 PM

I would be so happy if I owned a Pana DVC30 but with 1/3" widescreen CCDs with optional HDV compression and the OIS wouldn't rattle so.

Philip Williams · January 24th, 2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Granovski

I would be so happy if I owned a Pana DVC30 but with 1/3" widescreen CCDs with optional HDV compression and the OIS wouldn't rattle so.

Good news, its been recently released!

Of course its not a Panasonic...

Ok, seriously, I can't imagine Pana is going to let Canon and Sony run unchallenged forever in the 3-4K HD range. I'm sure you'll get that cam :)

Kevin James · January 25th, 2007, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Granovski

I would be so happy if I owned a Pana DVC30 but with 1/3" widescreen CCDs with optional HDV compression and the OIS wouldn't rattle so.

That would be great, I just hope they inject it with the same amount of external (switch and ring based) control as the new Canon's.

Kind of bugs me on the A1 that you cant have peaking and zebras on at the same time. I wonder if that is firmware fixable.........?

Frank Granovski · January 26th, 2007, 12:29 AM

The OIS rattle makes these Panas feel cheap. That's my beef.

January 23rd, 2007, 11:55 AM	#1
Kevin James Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 204	h264 heir to the DVC30 and DVX100? I am getting awfully close to going HDV, but I have been so happy with my Panny's that it is hard to switch to canon (a1). Anyone have any input on Panny releasing some sort of HDV equiv. cameras?

January 23rd, 2007, 10:17 PM	#2
Philip Williams Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Snellville, Georgia Posts: 614	They've just got to be working on something. If I were a betting man I'd say a DVX 100 replacement with 24mbs AVCHD is on the way. You know how it is, if you need a cam now there's not much point in waiting (there's always something better in the pipe). If you don't need a cam now, certainly won't hurt to wait. __________________ www.philipwilliams.com

January 23rd, 2007, 10:22 PM	#3
Kevin James Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 204	Where does AVCHD fit in the compression scale of things?

January 24th, 2007, 06:12 PM	#5
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	I would be so happy if I owned a Pana DVC30 but with 1/3" widescreen CCDs with optional HDV compression and the OIS wouldn't rattle so.

January 26th, 2007, 12:29 AM	#8
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	The OIS rattle makes these Panas feel cheap. That's my beef.