August 22 new Canon news

Noah Hayes · August 20th, 2005, 07:18 AM

Canon WILL be releasing at least three new products (in stores) on September 4th. The replacment for the SD500 is the SD550, all I know is the name, the price (499.99) and the date. But this news does imply a few more new models. Also the new Optura 600 and S1 are due out in September in case you haven't read Canon's site lately.

Steve Nunez · August 20th, 2005, 08:51 AM

So nothing along HDV camcorders?
Big mistake in my opinion- each day that goes by they lose market share in the most promising video format to be adopted since DV- sad.
I really wish they'd jump on the bandwagon and produce a few HDV cams.

Pete Bauer · August 20th, 2005, 09:36 AM

Well, this thread started with words that Aug 22nd would bring us some more news. Don't know what it will be, but I'm going to guess a consumer-level HDV camera that folks looking to upgrade from cameras like the DVX100a and XL2 level will skip.

I'll stick to my guns (see this post from May 27th) and predict that Canon will wait until closer to the release of Panasonic's upcoming HVX200 and then head 'em off at the pass with a WunderKam announcement that will compete head-to-head with the Panny.

Chris Hurd · August 20th, 2005, 01:34 PM

Mmmm, das WunderKam... raarraarrgh

Jay Gladwell · August 20th, 2005, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Bauer

I'll... predict that Canon will wait until closer to the release of Panasonic's upcoming HVX200 and then head 'em off at the pass with a WunderKam announcement that will compete head-to-head with the Panny.

I agree with Pete. Frankly, I'm surprised at the Canon crowd who doubt their tactics. I'm expecting Canon to do for HDV what they did for DV with the XL1.

Jay

Lawrence Bansbach · August 20th, 2005, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Gladwell

I agree with Pete. Frankly, I'm surprised at the Canon crowd who doubt their tactics. I'm expecting Canon to do for HDV what they did for DV with the XL1.

Jay

An overpriced camera that wasn't upgraded for 3 years? I hope they can do better this time around. Canon's only real advantage -- interchangeable lenses -- has been done and at a price point only about a grand more than the XL2. I've suggested ways that they can distinguish their "XL3." Despite protests that I'm dreaming, I don't think so. At least on paper, Panasonic and JVC have set the bar pretty high. Canon has got their work cut out for them.

Pete Bauer · August 20th, 2005, 08:10 PM

I guess it is a matter of opinion whether the XL1 was overpriced. I never owned one so can't say, but the popularity of the XL line says something about peoples' opinions...and I certainly do feel the price of my XL2 was fair for what I believe to be the best-of-breed among miniDV camcorders.

I'll agree that if the real cameras match the claims in the Panasonic and JVC pre-production brochures and white papers, the bar is set high. But as is often mentioned, Canon likes to see where others left the bar before jumping over it. We'll see if they clear the bar again -- but if they stumble, I have my eye on the Panasonic. ;-)

Kent Metschan · August 21st, 2005, 08:28 PM

Fairly priced now at $4,000 but not at the original price of $5,000. Even Canon admits that with a 20% cut in less than a year.

Pete Bauer · August 21st, 2005, 09:15 PM

That's one interpretation.

Mine is that Canon is responding -- as any company must -- to market pressure. If the competition WASN'T releasing HDV cameras that are all the rage, I think we'd have seen much less price decline in the XL2.

Along those lines, my XL2's hallowed place is threatened only by HD cameras. Were affordable HD not knocking at the door, I'd be shooting with my XL2 for a long time to come. In fact, I'm not even so sure anymore that I'll sell the XL2 when I get an HD camera.

The jury is still out on the JVC as it is gradually being released across different markets (at least I've read it is arriving in some non-North American markets?), and there's nothing to say that Panasonic is any closer to product release than Canon. I've really liked my Canon cameras, so am rather hopeful that they will release a product that entices me stick with them. But only time will tell if Canon -- or Panasonic or JVC -- really deliver all that is promised by the companies or hoped for by us consumers. Whoever delivers that best combination of camera and price will win our wallets. I'm not ready to nay-say any of them yet.

Zack Birlew · August 21st, 2005, 09:52 PM

Nice, Pete. I like that, well said! =)

Yi Fong Yu · August 21st, 2005, 11:10 PM

tomorrow will be the big news!!! let's all cross our fingers.

Dylan Couper · August 22nd, 2005, 12:25 AM

In Japan, it is tomorrow already!
Lets see some action!

Jay Gladwell · August 22nd, 2005, 05:48 AM

My bottom line is this: Until there is a reasonably priced means of delivery to my clients, HDV is moot.

Jay

Yi Fong Yu · August 22nd, 2005, 06:55 AM

NOT neccessarily. have you seen HDV resolution material downconvert to 480p? it still looks spectacular.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Gladwell

My bottom line is this: Until there is a reasonably priced means of delivery to my clients, HDV is moot.

Jay

Keith Loh · August 22nd, 2005, 07:49 AM

DPReview.com has the Canon announcements on the (expected) new DSLRS and a bunch of other digitals.

http://dpreview.com

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August 20th, 2005, 08:51 AM	#47
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	So nothing along HDV camcorders? Big mistake in my opinion- each day that goes by they lose market share in the most promising video format to be adopted since DV- sad. I really wish they'd jump on the bandwagon and produce a few HDV cams. __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

August 20th, 2005, 09:36 AM	#48
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Well, this thread started with words that Aug 22nd would bring us some more news. Don't know what it will be, but I'm going to guess a consumer-level HDV camera that folks looking to upgrade from cameras like the DVX100a and XL2 level will skip. I'll stick to my guns (see this post from May 27th) and predict that Canon will wait until closer to the release of Panasonic's upcoming HVX200 and then head 'em off at the pass with a WunderKam announcement that will compete head-to-head with the Panny. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

August 20th, 2005, 01:34 PM	#49
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Mmmm, das WunderKam... raarraarrgh __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

August 20th, 2005, 08:10 PM	#52
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	I guess it is a matter of opinion whether the XL1 was overpriced. I never owned one so can't say, but the popularity of the XL line says something about peoples' opinions...and I certainly do feel the price of my XL2 was fair for what I believe to be the best-of-breed among miniDV camcorders. I'll agree that if the real cameras match the claims in the Panasonic and JVC pre-production brochures and white papers, the bar is set high. But as is often mentioned, Canon likes to see where others left the bar before jumping over it. We'll see if they clear the bar again -- but if they stumble, I have my eye on the Panasonic. ;-) __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

August 21st, 2005, 09:15 PM	#54
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	That's one interpretation. Mine is that Canon is responding -- as any company must -- to market pressure. If the competition WASN'T releasing HDV cameras that are all the rage, I think we'd have seen much less price decline in the XL2. Along those lines, my XL2's hallowed place is threatened only by HD cameras. Were affordable HD not knocking at the door, I'd be shooting with my XL2 for a long time to come. In fact, I'm not even so sure anymore that I'll sell the XL2 when I get an HD camera. The jury is still out on the JVC as it is gradually being released across different markets (at least I've read it is arriving in some non-North American markets?), and there's nothing to say that Panasonic is any closer to product release than Canon. I've really liked my Canon cameras, so am rather hopeful that they will release a product that entices me stick with them. But only time will tell if Canon -- or Panasonic or JVC -- really deliver all that is promised by the companies or hoped for by us consumers. Whoever delivers that best combination of camera and price will win our wallets. I'm not ready to nay-say any of them yet. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

August 20th, 2005, 07:18 AM	#46
Noah Hayes Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sterling, Virginia Posts: 226	Canon WILL be releasing at least three new products (in stores) on September 4th. The replacment for the SD500 is the SD550, all I know is the name, the price (499.99) and the date. But this news does imply a few more new models. Also the new Optura 600 and S1 are due out in September in case you haven't read Canon's site lately.

August 21st, 2005, 08:28 PM	#53
Kent Metschan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 65	Fairly priced now at $4,000 but not at the original price of $5,000. Even Canon admits that with a 20% cut in less than a year.

August 21st, 2005, 09:52 PM	#55
Zack Birlew Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 613	Nice, Pete. I like that, well said! =) __________________ "Babs Do or Babs Do not, there is no try." - Zack Birlew www.BabsDoProductions.com

August 21st, 2005, 11:10 PM	#56
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	tomorrow will be the big news!!! let's all cross our fingers. __________________ bow wow wow

August 22nd, 2005, 12:25 AM	#57
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August 22nd, 2005, 05:48 AM	#58
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	My bottom line is this: Until there is a reasonably priced means of delivery to my clients, HDV is moot. Jay

August 22nd, 2005, 07:49 AM	#60
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