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Scott Brickert · January 11th, 2011, 09:22 PM

I don't have much use for a 3D camera yet. Maybe later.

What really would be valuable is a two lens camera where one lens is the typical zoom, but the other is a fixed 24mm wide shot set at infinite focus, recording to the same video settings as the main lens, activated simultaneously, running in basic auto.

So no matter how creative or out of focus or blown highlights or crushed shadows I'm operating with the big lens, the little ol' safety shot is chuggin' along, seeing the big picture.

It wouldn't necessarily look like the current 3D cameras. Imagine cutting and pasting an iPhone lens onto the camera somewhere, maybe alongside the big lens or above it. Simple, small, shot saving, butt saving...

Whaddaya think?

Allan Black · January 11th, 2011, 10:41 PM

Seems the idea is in use Scott, someone said he has a HV20? on wide .. strapped to a bigger cam. Who's doing that?

Cheers.

Richard Alvarez · January 12th, 2011, 10:56 AM

A wide cover shot is SOP for most productions, especially those involved in any sort of 'one-off' situations. So the idea is valid - my question would go to where the data would be stored? On the same card/tape? On separate files? If you're idea of fail-safe is to be commendable - then really the logical conclusion is that the wide-cover shot is on separate media, in case something happens to the 'close-up' shot or media.

Giroud Francois · January 12th, 2011, 01:55 PM

well on any high end camera (usually big) you can add a 2nd consumer level small camera.
(on the accessory shoe for example).
if same brand and using remote , you can even sync recording.

Tony Waree · January 13th, 2011, 12:17 AM

Sharp Electronics - "TwinCam" Camcorder "VL-MX7U" 1992 Ad

Yeah, Sharp did that over a decade ago with their TwinCam; it only records one cam at a time, but allows for transitions between the fixed and zoom lens.

Giroud Francois · January 13th, 2011, 02:04 AM

i have done that once for sport event, so you can freely zoom on details while keeping the full view of the game. i used a laser to align the center of picture on both camera.

usefull too for air show, when it is so difficult to track small airplaines on a uniform background.

Allan Black · January 14th, 2011, 01:10 AM

Oh dear, you can get 20yrs for shining a Laser at airplanes here and in Cal.

Cheers.

January 11th, 2011, 09:22 PM	#1
Scott Brickert Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Crested Butte, CO Posts: 576	Two lenses YES, stereo 3D NO ( towards a built-in safety shot) I don't have much use for a 3D camera yet. Maybe later. What really would be valuable is a two lens camera where one lens is the typical zoom, but the other is a fixed 24mm wide shot set at infinite focus, recording to the same video settings as the main lens, activated simultaneously, running in basic auto. So no matter how creative or out of focus or blown highlights or crushed shadows I'm operating with the big lens, the little ol' safety shot is chuggin' along, seeing the big picture. It wouldn't necessarily look like the current 3D cameras. Imagine cutting and pasting an iPhone lens onto the camera somewhere, maybe alongside the big lens or above it. Simple, small, shot saving, butt saving... Whaddaya think? __________________ Scott Shot-By-Scott

January 11th, 2011, 10:41 PM	#2
Allan Black Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney. Posts: 2,927	Seems the idea is in use Scott, someone said he has a HV20? on wide .. strapped to a bigger cam. Who's doing that? Cheers. __________________ Drink more tap water. On admission at Sydney hospitals more than 5% of day patients are de-hydrated.

January 14th, 2011, 01:10 AM	#7
Allan Black Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney. Posts: 2,927	Oh dear, you can get 20yrs for shining a Laser at airplanes here and in Cal. Cheers. __________________ Drink more tap water. On admission at Sydney hospitals more than 5% of day patients are de-hydrated.

January 12th, 2011, 10:56 AM	#3
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	A wide cover shot is SOP for most productions, especially those involved in any sort of 'one-off' situations. So the idea is valid - my question would go to where the data would be stored? On the same card/tape? On separate files? If you're idea of fail-safe is to be commendable - then really the logical conclusion is that the wide-cover shot is on separate media, in case something happens to the 'close-up' shot or media.

January 12th, 2011, 01:55 PM	#4
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	well on any high end camera (usually big) you can add a 2nd consumer level small camera. (on the accessory shoe for example). if same brand and using remote , you can even sync recording.

January 13th, 2011, 12:17 AM	#5
Tony Waree New Boot Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Arleta, Los Angeles, California Posts: 8	Sharp Electronics - "TwinCam" Camcorder "VL-MX7U" 1992 Ad Yeah, Sharp did that over a decade ago with their TwinCam; it only records one cam at a time, but allows for transitions between the fixed and zoom lens.

January 13th, 2011, 02:04 AM	#6
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	i have done that once for sport event, so you can freely zoom on details while keeping the full view of the game. i used a laser to align the center of picture on both camera. usefull too for air show, when it is so difficult to track small airplaines on a uniform background.