New EX Camera??

David Heath · March 21st, 2010, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabor Heeres

What about a S270-like fullsize shouldermount camcorder with 3 1/2" CMOS chips and with two SXS slots in stead of the MRC-1 CF recording unit? Hybrid in tape and SXS and HD and SD of course.

I doubt there would be any tape. That would only be capable of 25 Mbs working, so only of use in SD (DVCAM) mode or HDV. If you have 1/2" (presumably full 2 megapixel?) chips, shouldermount design etc etc, it would hardly be worthwhile to then shoot HDV to tape when the camera will do a better codec to solid state.

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Originally Posted by Jim Stamos

.....on april 5th, we will all know what the new cam is, id bet its a cheaper shoulder mount as mentioned above that will be affordable to alot of people.

Unless you know something we don't, I think it's only speculation whether there will be any such new camera at all announced at NAB. Personally, I think something is quite likely, but my thoughts are based purely on wondering why the EX3 wasn't upgraded at the same time the EX1 was - so a guess that it will be discontinued before long in favour of a new model.

If so, then I'm with the general concensus. What I'd want is something between the EX1R and the 350, with an ergonomic lesson learnt from the JVC cameras.

Barry J. Weckesser · April 6th, 2010, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Docea Marius

,,I just talked to a Sony Rep at a local video show. A new EX camera will be coming out at NAB. All he would tell me is that it will place between the EX3 and the 350. There will not be an EX3r nor will the EX3 be discontinued. He also would not tell me if it was going to be a shoulder mount or not. April 5th is the day the trade magazines will get the info for publication,,

Anyone have any contacts with the "trade magazines" or know anything more about the new camera (or if there is going to be one at all)?

Ned Soltz · April 6th, 2010, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry J. Weckesser

Anyone have any contacts with the "trade magazines" or know anything more about the new camera (or if there is going to be one at all)?

Yes. I write for two of the trade magazines. No I have not heard anything but it does not mean that another of the editors may have received an embargoed release. And if I did know something and told you.... well, I'm from Jersey and folks have a habit of disappearing into the Meadowlands.

Barry J. Weckesser · April 6th, 2010, 04:07 PM

Ha!! and you are right in the backyard area of the big Sony Service Center. Well I suppose we will all know what is going on next Monday when NAB starts.

Bob Grant · April 6th, 2010, 04:25 PM

I'll take a gamble and say we'll see an EX 422 50Mbps camera. This is what's missing from the lineup. The SxS cards were designed for the data rate, it remains unused at the moment. The encoder chips have been available for quite some time now. Needless to say this will be a 2/3" camera at a higher pricepoint than the 350.
I believe Sony will transition all of their XDCAM HD cameras to XDCAM EX. The optical disk tech was openly stated by Sony to be a transition solution.

Jim Stamos · April 6th, 2010, 04:53 PM

bob, i think it will be a cam less than the 350. alot of shooters out there are screaming for a more affordable shoulder mount. dropping 20k now is a bit steep for alot of us.
and now that panasonic has improved the 300 to the 370, id be surprised if its not a 1/2 inch SM.
we will know monday for sure if not sooner

John Poipie · April 6th, 2010, 05:50 PM

I would say that we can expect camera's with a new breed of image sensors.
The best candidate for this is the "Quantum dot Sensor ( Quantum dots promise more sensitive sensors: Digital Photography Review )
It has a 4x better light sensitivity and a much larger dynamic range.
Probably it will close the gap between film and video.
An EX-camera with such a sensor will be a killer.

Ned Soltz · April 6th, 2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry J. Weckesser

Ha!! and you are right in the backyard area of the big Sony Service Center. Well I suppose we will all know what is going on next Monday when NAB starts.

Sony Service Center is walking distance from me...

I'll be at the Sony press conference on Sunday 4/11 and we'll see if anything is announced. I can tell you that we did not receive anything from Sony on Monday or Tues. But we do know where Jimmy Hoffa is and since you don't want to go there, I'd better not say any more.

Docea Marius · April 7th, 2010, 11:11 AM

Sony wear us with joy and the new EX1-R free to give us the opportunity to shoot with EX1 and EX1R 4.2.2 directly :-) 50 MBit/s,as the new canon cameras.
I just moved from EX1 to EX1R

Chris Hurd · April 7th, 2010, 11:56 AM

DV Info Net will be attending the Sony NAB2010 press conference
coming up this Sunday, and of course we'll be making a full report
from there, whatever it is they have to show. Stay tuned!

David Pryke · April 7th, 2010, 05:52 PM

I am the person that started this topic on another forum site. The conversation started with the inquire about an EX3r, and lead to what I posted. Since that time, I spoke with one of my clients today who is looking to get an EX1r. When he spoke to his Sony distributor about the new EX camera, he confirmed the new camera but said it might not be available until September. Just wanted to pass it along. My client is very good friends with the distributor, so he has no reason to lie. Maybe it's all a hoax, but I don't see why a Sony rep would say it.

Great site. At least you guys stayed on topic :)

Barry J. Weckesser · April 8th, 2010, 07:19 AM

Guess we will know for sure this coming Sunday with the press announcements. People keep speculating about anothe 1/2" sensor camera "shoulder mount". With the excellent third party adaptor solutions (e.g. Olof Ekbergh) and being able to use the EX1 and EX3 as shoulder mounts - I really don't see the advantage of another 1/2" camera luring people into selling their EX1-3's and buying the new camera or keeping their present rigs and springing for another camera which will essentially have the same resolution/color/specs as the current lineup. Is it really physically impossible to have a 2/3" camera a bit larger than the EX3 (somewhere between the EX3 and PMW 350) because of technical factors (like heat dissipation etc.)?

Gabe Strong · April 10th, 2010, 10:47 AM

Looks like this might be able to be moved out of area 51 now....

Sony Business Solutions & Systems - Featured

1/2 version of the PMW 350 is what it looks like.....

Chris Hurd · April 10th, 2010, 10:54 AM

Thread closed now that it's real. Please pick up the discussion at:

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/digital-...mw-320k-l.html

Thanks in advance,

April 6th, 2010, 04:53 PM	#21
Jim Stamos Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 565	new ex bob, i think it will be a cam less than the 350. alot of shooters out there are screaming for a more affordable shoulder mount. dropping 20k now is a bit steep for alot of us. and now that panasonic has improved the 300 to the 370, id be surprised if its not a 1/2 inch SM. we will know monday for sure if not sooner

April 7th, 2010, 11:56 AM	#25
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	DV Info Net will be attending the Sony NAB2010 press conference coming up this Sunday, and of course we'll be making a full report from there, whatever it is they have to show. Stay tuned! __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 10th, 2010, 10:54 AM	#29
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Thread closed now that it's real. Please pick up the discussion at: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/digital-...mw-320k-l.html Thanks in advance, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 6th, 2010, 04:07 PM	#19
Barry J. Weckesser Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sarasota, Florida Posts: 427	Ha!! and you are right in the backyard area of the big Sony Service Center. Well I suppose we will all know what is going on next Monday when NAB starts.

April 6th, 2010, 04:25 PM	#20
Bob Grant Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,570	I'll take a gamble and say we'll see an EX 422 50Mbps camera. This is what's missing from the lineup. The SxS cards were designed for the data rate, it remains unused at the moment. The encoder chips have been available for quite some time now. Needless to say this will be a 2/3" camera at a higher pricepoint than the 350. I believe Sony will transition all of their XDCAM HD cameras to XDCAM EX. The optical disk tech was openly stated by Sony to be a transition solution.

April 6th, 2010, 05:50 PM	#22
John Poipie Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 40	I would say that we can expect camera's with a new breed of image sensors. The best candidate for this is the "Quantum dot Sensor ( Quantum dots promise more sensitive sensors: Digital Photography Review ) It has a 4x better light sensitivity and a much larger dynamic range. Probably it will close the gap between film and video. An EX-camera with such a sensor will be a killer.

April 7th, 2010, 11:11 AM	#24
Docea Marius Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 175	Sony wear us with joy and the new EX1-R free to give us the opportunity to shoot with EX1 and EX1R 4.2.2 directly :-) 50 MBit/s,as the new canon cameras. I just moved from EX1 to EX1R

April 7th, 2010, 05:52 PM	#26
David Pryke New Boot Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 7	I am the person that started this topic on another forum site. The conversation started with the inquire about an EX3r, and lead to what I posted. Since that time, I spoke with one of my clients today who is looking to get an EX1r. When he spoke to his Sony distributor about the new EX camera, he confirmed the new camera but said it might not be available until September. Just wanted to pass it along. My client is very good friends with the distributor, so he has no reason to lie. Maybe it's all a hoax, but I don't see why a Sony rep would say it. Great site. At least you guys stayed on topic :)

April 8th, 2010, 07:19 AM	#27
Barry J. Weckesser Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sarasota, Florida Posts: 427	Guess we will know for sure this coming Sunday with the press announcements. People keep speculating about anothe 1/2" sensor camera "shoulder mount". With the excellent third party adaptor solutions (e.g. Olof Ekbergh) and being able to use the EX1 and EX3 as shoulder mounts - I really don't see the advantage of another 1/2" camera luring people into selling their EX1-3's and buying the new camera or keeping their present rigs and springing for another camera which will essentially have the same resolution/color/specs as the current lineup. Is it really physically impossible to have a 2/3" camera a bit larger than the EX3 (somewhere between the EX3 and PMW 350) because of technical factors (like heat dissipation etc.)?

April 10th, 2010, 10:47 AM	#28
Gabe Strong Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Juneau, AK Posts: 814	Looks like this might be able to be moved out of area 51 now.... Sony Business Solutions & Systems - Featured 1/2 version of the PMW 350 is what it looks like.....