The Notorius Big GL3 / XM3 Thread (HDV yada yada)

Mark Grgurev · August 31st, 2004, 01:51 PM

Canon said something along the lines of "this is the last SD camcorder that Canon will release of this magnitude". I'm sure there will be a GL2 succesor.

Mark Fan · September 22nd, 2004, 06:16 AM

is it possible that Canon is going to use HD on GL3?
just guess, including GL3.

John DeLuca · September 22nd, 2004, 11:23 AM

Highly unlikely........but, the market may force them to consider it

Alfredo Castil · October 7th, 2004, 02:10 PM

that comment was directed to the XL series not the GL

Kevin James · October 7th, 2004, 07:25 PM

The real question is: Will it have 24p?

Nick Kerpchar · October 8th, 2004, 05:34 AM

GL3 ? What GL3 ? Has anyone seen anything announced about a replacement for the GL2 (other than speculation on the forums)?

Rebate for GL2 was supposed to end on 09/30/04. Here it is 10/08/04. Did you see any announcement from Canon ? It would have been nice, but then so would the return of a good, cold glass of 5 cent beer.

Terry Lyons · October 8th, 2004, 09:14 PM

Do you think it will be black or perhaps dark grey?

Kevin James · October 9th, 2004, 08:52 AM

I think the GL3 would probably be a summer '05 announcement at the earliest. The XL2 hasnt even built up a head of steam yet.

Jose di Cani · October 31st, 2004, 06:40 PM

HI

Just wanted to let you know that I heard from serious sources (canon buddies) that Canon is working on a xm3 version. Large electronic shops deal with shorter product cyvles and the xm2 is an old model which is dificult to find in shops nowadays . Even an extra money fee is given to customers in the States just ot buy the xm2. The xm3 will not offer framework. Why? It is posible to add framework, but Canon deliberately takes that option out just that it not compets with his brother XL2. I will be keeping you informed about news.

Thought you might be interested. SO next time canon brings out the xl3 version, we all know it is time for the xm4. The same thing happened with the sony and panasonic products.

JOse

Jose di Cani · November 4th, 2004, 06:09 PM

HI

I know, I know...I heard these rumours too. WHen is the gl/xm3 coming out? So many discount nowadays on the gl2. This means nothing more that a new specie is going to taken over the low-end side of the semipro camworld. I hope so. Can;t wait to get a glimp of that one. I hope they will improve red colours and add a XLR panthom power thing on it. :)

Jose di Cani · November 4th, 2004, 06:22 PM

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I couldn't see a GL3 being HDV unless the model comes out in a couple years, like if they released an XL2S, and the GL3 at the same time

That is it. The gl3 will NEVER be introduced without the introduction of a similar product in a xl3 version. Hard disk recording is expensive and basically at this moment only used it he upper part of the market. Canon would LOOSe lots of sales of their new xl2 cam, if they one day decided to introduce a HD gl3 cam. So I think within2 years, things could be changing cause you need to remember one thing:

HD cams are the future. NO dvd-recording cams. No DV cams. NO minidisk-cams. NO!

HD -CAms are the future. But it takes a nit longer to perfect this technology.

I think the new gl3 cam will be something like the xl2) but without the extra stuff like the 24 fps option.

Zack Birlew · November 4th, 2004, 09:47 PM

Well, this thread will probably get sent to the Area 51 section, but my prediction is that Canon is going to go HDV with the next GL-type camera (remember they said they wouldn't make any more GL-series cameras, likewise XL-series) so this will probably be called something else like BR-1 or something (I dunno, I just made this up) and it will probably be something along the lines of the Sony FX-1. Either that or they'll just drop the next GL-type camera and stick with the smaller cameras like the ZR-series, but make them much higher quality, perhaps the first true consumer HDV cameras at $600-800 a pop? I don't know, but to be honest it's too early to tell and even to speculate as they haven't even gotten the XL2's in high distribution yet! =P

Jesse Bekas · November 9th, 2004, 11:36 AM

I don't think we'll see HDV for under $2000 until there is a common (like DVD) output format and large proliferation of HDTV's to support it. I think it'll take at least a few more years for HDV to get to that level. I mean the FX-1 @ $3,700 is supposed to be consumer, but come on (don't forget that $3,700 doesn't cover any accessories). The Pro version will come out at $7,000 if I'm not mistaken. HDV will come down to the real consumer level faster than DV did, but not much faster.

Rob Lohman · November 9th, 2004, 12:30 PM

As predicted, the thread has been moved.

Marina May · November 13th, 2004, 04:11 PM

Many thanks to all and especially to Jose. Indeed I would be very interested for all news relating to a new 'gl3' or 'xm3'.

- m.

September 22nd, 2004, 06:16 AM	#17
Mark Fan Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 33	Gl3 ? is it possible that Canon is going to use HD on GL3? just guess, including GL3.

October 7th, 2004, 02:10 PM	#19
Alfredo Castil Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 40	that comment was directed to the XL series not the GL __________________ Ask not whether you can afford to make it, but whether can you afford not to.

October 8th, 2004, 09:14 PM	#22
Terry Lyons Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alta Sierra Posts: 182	Do you think it will be black or perhaps dark grey? __________________ TAG

October 31st, 2004, 06:40 PM	#24
Jose di Cani Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Holland, Europe Posts: 214	canon XM3 (gm3) is on the way HI Just wanted to let you know that I heard from serious sources (canon buddies) that Canon is working on a xm3 version. Large electronic shops deal with shorter product cyvles and the xm2 is an old model which is dificult to find in shops nowadays . Even an extra money fee is given to customers in the States just ot buy the xm2. The xm3 will not offer framework. Why? It is posible to add framework, but Canon deliberately takes that option out just that it not compets with his brother XL2. I will be keeping you informed about news. Thought you might be interested. SO next time canon brings out the xl3 version, we all know it is time for the xm4. The same thing happened with the sony and panasonic products. JOse

November 4th, 2004, 06:09 PM	#25
Jose di Cani Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Holland, Europe Posts: 214	Gl3: xm3....when? HI I know, I know...I heard these rumours too. WHen is the gl/xm3 coming out? So many discount nowadays on the gl2. This means nothing more that a new specie is going to taken over the low-end side of the semipro camworld. I hope so. Can;t wait to get a glimp of that one. I hope they will improve red colours and add a XLR panthom power thing on it. :)

August 31st, 2004, 01:51 PM	#16
Mark Grgurev Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fairview,nj Posts: 137	Canon said something along the lines of "this is the last SD camcorder that Canon will release of this magnitude". I'm sure there will be a GL2 succesor.

September 22nd, 2004, 11:23 AM	#18
John DeLuca Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 496	Highly unlikely........but, the market may force them to consider it

October 7th, 2004, 07:25 PM	#20
Kevin James Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 204	The real question is: Will it have 24p?

October 8th, 2004, 05:34 AM	#21
Nick Kerpchar Major Player Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 211	GL3 ? What GL3 ? Has anyone seen anything announced about a replacement for the GL2 (other than speculation on the forums)? Rebate for GL2 was supposed to end on 09/30/04. Here it is 10/08/04. Did you see any announcement from Canon ? It would have been nice, but then so would the return of a good, cold glass of 5 cent beer.

October 9th, 2004, 08:52 AM	#23
Kevin James Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 204	I think the GL3 would probably be a summer '05 announcement at the earliest. The XL2 hasnt even built up a head of steam yet.

November 4th, 2004, 09:47 PM	#27
Zack Birlew Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 613	Well, this thread will probably get sent to the Area 51 section, but my prediction is that Canon is going to go HDV with the next GL-type camera (remember they said they wouldn't make any more GL-series cameras, likewise XL-series) so this will probably be called something else like BR-1 or something (I dunno, I just made this up) and it will probably be something along the lines of the Sony FX-1. Either that or they'll just drop the next GL-type camera and stick with the smaller cameras like the ZR-series, but make them much higher quality, perhaps the first true consumer HDV cameras at $600-800 a pop? I don't know, but to be honest it's too early to tell and even to speculate as they haven't even gotten the XL2's in high distribution yet! =P __________________ "Babs Do or Babs Do not, there is no try." - Zack Birlew www.BabsDoProductions.com

November 9th, 2004, 11:36 AM	#28
Jesse Bekas Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ridgefield Park, New Jersey, USA Posts: 572	I don't think we'll see HDV for under $2000 until there is a common (like DVD) output format and large proliferation of HDTV's to support it. I think it'll take at least a few more years for HDV to get to that level. I mean the FX-1 @ $3,700 is supposed to be consumer, but come on (don't forget that $3,700 doesn't cover any accessories). The Pro version will come out at $7,000 if I'm not mistaken. HDV will come down to the real consumer level faster than DV did, but not much faster.

November 9th, 2004, 12:30 PM	#29
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	As predicted, the thread has been moved. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 13th, 2004, 04:11 PM	#30
Marina May Tourist Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 2	Many thanks to all and especially to Jose. Indeed I would be very interested for all news relating to a new 'gl3' or 'xm3'. - m.