|
|||||||||
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
September 6th, 2009, 05:32 PM | #61 | |
Major Player
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Alpharetta, Georgia, USA
Posts: 760
|
Quote:
#2 All those formats I believe are in the 7D. So the remaining missing piece is the video camera itself, and the appropriate lenses. |
|
September 7th, 2009, 03:50 PM | #62 | ||
Inner Circle
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,699
|
Quote:
H264 would be one answer, but that is difficult to edit natively. It's no better quality than MPEG2 necessarily, just achieves a given level at a slightly lower bitrate. In a camera like this, MPEG2 at 35/50Mbs seems a good compromise - relatively easy to edit, high quality, but still a low enough rate to fit on SDHC/CF cards. Going to 50Mbs wouldn't just yield 4:2:2 - it would put clear marketing water between it and Sony and JVC at 35Mbs. Quote:
|
||
September 8th, 2009, 04:05 PM | #63 | |
Major Player
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Alpharetta, Georgia, USA
Posts: 760
|
Quote:
Have a look at this web page, click on the Features tab, and have a good read. The format+framerates the 7D will do are right at the top. Canon EOS 7D Digital SLR Last edited by Bill Koehler; September 8th, 2009 at 04:06 PM. Reason: typo |
|
September 8th, 2009, 05:05 PM | #64 | ||
Inner Circle
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,699
|
Quote:
Quote:
At 1920x1080 you just get 30p, 24p, and 25p. |
||
September 9th, 2009, 07:44 AM | #65 |
Inner Circle
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada
Posts: 3,053
|
Considering video capable DSLRs, their rolling shutter when it comes to their CMOS sensor is absolutely horrid. Using live view on the D90 and the Canon, I was getting huge amounts of rolling shutter artifacts. When it's actually recording, this would never be able to be used for matchmoving...
If Panasonic's AVC-Intra is a sign of what's to come, the consortium that made HDV should make a professional tapeless format that isn't consumer centered like AVCHD is. Once that codec is out, a XL-H2 could be possible. |
September 9th, 2009, 10:09 AM | #66 |
Major Player
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 775
|
Well my feeling is with this supposed XL H2, they will probably go with CF cards and an H.264 codec very much in line with what's coming from the 7D. Of course, it'll have HD-SDI, or hopefully 3G HD-SDI for 4:4:4.
What will make this camera amazing besides the tech being built for video in mind (a specific APS-C sensor that will try to minimize/eliminate CMOS cons?), is the fact that it'll be a camera which focuses on video first. I would think it's form factor will be somewhere very close to what the XL series is now. |
September 9th, 2009, 02:27 PM | #67 | |
Inner Circle
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,699
|
Quote:
For a prosumer camera, 50Mbs means easily recordable onto fairly cheap memory cards. Why bother with H264? It won't necessarily give any better quality than MPEG2, just give the same at a slightly lower bitrate. Against that is lack of support from NLEs, and a likely need to transcode before editing. |
|
September 9th, 2009, 05:19 PM | #68 |
Major Player
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 775
|
Canon Announcement September 29, 2009
"During this fall, Canon will make one of its largest and most important launches in the company’s history and we hope you can attend. During a luncheon, you are invited to listen to CEO Jouko Tuouminen, Marketing presiden Monica Forsberg and trend analyst Magnus Lindkvist, talking about tomorrows trends and factors of success in the continually more digitalized everyday life."
Hmmm ... could this finally be the video camera we're waiting for? Or a 1DMark4? Or a new product line like Vacuum Cleaners with Optical Image Stabilization? :) |
September 9th, 2009, 06:26 PM | #69 |
Major Player
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Asheville NC
Posts: 426
|
A Mark7 XLH2 vacuum with OIS? But which codec?
|
September 12th, 2009, 02:53 PM | #70 |
Regular Crew
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Norfolk, UK
Posts: 48
|
The latest gossip from IBC is that the September Announcement is regarding a 21MP video camera. Canon Europe have the Business Design Centre in Islington Booked for a exhibition in early October...
|
September 12th, 2009, 03:34 PM | #71 |
Regular Crew
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 136
|
|
September 12th, 2009, 04:51 PM | #72 | |
Major Player
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 775
|
Quote:
:) |
|
September 15th, 2009, 11:03 AM | #73 |
Major Player
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Athens, Greece
Posts: 344
|
Everybody at Canon in IBC was tight lipped about the Sep29 event but I got a hint that is about a video camera launch. On the other hand I cannot understand why they didn't launch it at IBC where it would have been more apropriate. Anyway if it is APS or bigger it must be Cmos because CCDs in small form cameras become very hot (thats why Sony put only a 1/2inch chip on EX1/3). If the 21Mp rumor holds then probably is FF. Ideally it will be FF 4/3 with the option for 16/9 APS
|
September 16th, 2009, 12:40 AM | #74 | |
Trustee
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
Posts: 1,259
|
Quote:
I'm not disputing that CCD is hotter than CMOS, but FYI the EX1/3's have 1/2" CMOS's not CCD's. BTW, Sony's F35 has one CCD, their F23 has three CCD's , Dalsa used a CCD, and I believe the Viper uses CCD's as well.
__________________
Avid Media Composer 3.1.3. Boris Red and Continuum Complete. Vegas 8.0c. TMPGEnc Xpress Pro 4.0 |
|
September 17th, 2009, 05:03 PM | #75 |
Major Player
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Athens, Greece
Posts: 344
|
Maybe I wasn't clear. I meant that Sony decided to put a 1/2 CMOS instead of 1/2 CCD in a SMALL FORM camera like EX1/3 because such a small camera cannot deal with the heat emitted from the CCD's. SONY in the much bigger 1/2 3XX line of cameras, uses CCD. In the same manner all the cameras you mentioned (viper, dalsa, F23, F35), all are large cameras that can deal with CCD's heat.
I didn't make that out of my head. It was the response of a SONY tech in last year's IBC on why they used CMOS instead CCD in the EX1/3. |
| ||||||
|
|