Brevis, M2, SGpro, Go35Pro Viewfinder Flip and Rotate at DVinfo.net

Donnie Wagner · March 5th, 2007, 11:20 AM

Users of Non-Flip adapters:

I'd like to start a discussion on the potential value of having a upright image in the camcorder viewfinder instead of having to use a external LCD monitor or the magnet trick.

I have discussed design and pricing from an engineering firm on a device that enables corrected viewing through the camcorders viewfinder and I'm trying to gauge the overall interest from users of non-flip adapters.

In your response please include what you would think is a reasonable price for such a device. If enough users value this device at an appropriate price, it can be available within a very short lead time.

Thanks for discussing.

Donnie Wagner

Ben Winter · March 5th, 2007, 04:23 PM

I hardly use my VF as it is. And seeing as how focus is crucial, I can't imagine anyone investing in such a device, especially at the VF's resolution, when the money would be better spent on an external LCD that gives proper focusing resolution anyway. In my eyes the VF is (only) used best sans adapter, and even then I find the LCD to be leaps ahead.

Sorry to be the LCD-touting grouch. :( I wouldn't pay any more than $50 for such a small convenience.

Chris Barcellos · March 5th, 2007, 06:31 PM

If it were an enhanced and larger HD viewfinder, connect, maybe, to the BNC on my FX1, it might consider it. Right now, I can have the lcd open, and for composition, and still use viewfinder for focusing.

Incidentally, I wear "readers" for close work. I but my 2.25 diopters don't get me detail enough when I use the LCD. So I got a pair of 3.25's just for focus work.

Charles Hurley · March 6th, 2007, 12:20 AM

I'd pay 1000 dollars for an HVX lcd that was 640X480 and could flip with a switch. Beter yet i'd trade you my marshal for it.

Chris Barcellos · March 6th, 2007, 12:54 AM

As an aside, the FX1, actually displays both on the LCD and in the viewfinder when you are using a magnet to flip the LCD. The viewfinder does show inverted image, however.

Donnie Wagner · March 6th, 2007, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Hurley

I'd pay 1000 dollars for an HVX lcd that was 640X480 and could flip with a switch. Beter yet i'd trade you my marshal for it.

Confused... Do you mean you want 640X480 on the HVX's flip-out-LCD screen that could flip&rotate the image with a switch?

Jon Wolding · March 6th, 2007, 07:25 PM

Screw that... I want a 1080p LCD flipout!

Phil Bloom · March 7th, 2007, 02:43 PM

shooting using the JVC hd200 and my brevis is a joy due to the internal flip for both lcd/viewfinder and recording. it is so easy to use and I have no problems getting focus. For hand held there is nothing better out there

March 5th, 2007, 11:20 AM	#1
Donnie Wagner Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 135	Brevis, M2, SGpro, Go35Pro Viewfinder Flip and Rotate Users of Non-Flip adapters: I'd like to start a discussion on the potential value of having a upright image in the camcorder viewfinder instead of having to use a external LCD monitor or the magnet trick. I have discussed design and pricing from an engineering firm on a device that enables corrected viewing through the camcorders viewfinder and I'm trying to gauge the overall interest from users of non-flip adapters. In your response please include what you would think is a reasonable price for such a device. If enough users value this device at an appropriate price, it can be available within a very short lead time. Thanks for discussing. Donnie Wagner Last edited by Donnie Wagner; March 6th, 2007 at 09:20 AM.

March 5th, 2007, 04:23 PM	#2
Ben Winter Trustee Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,675 Images: 1	I hardly use my VF as it is. And seeing as how focus is crucial, I can't imagine anyone investing in such a device, especially at the VF's resolution, when the money would be better spent on an external LCD that gives proper focusing resolution anyway. In my eyes the VF is (only) used best sans adapter, and even then I find the LCD to be leaps ahead. Sorry to be the LCD-touting grouch. :( I wouldn't pay any more than $50 for such a small convenience. __________________ BenWinter.com Last edited by Ben Winter; March 5th, 2007 at 05:10 PM.

March 5th, 2007, 06:31 PM	#3
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	If it were an enhanced and larger HD viewfinder, connect, maybe, to the BNC on my FX1, it might consider it. Right now, I can have the lcd open, and for composition, and still use viewfinder for focusing. Incidentally, I wear "readers" for close work. I but my 2.25 diopters don't get me detail enough when I use the LCD. So I got a pair of 3.25's just for focus work. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

March 6th, 2007, 12:54 AM	#5
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	As an aside, the FX1, actually displays both on the LCD and in the viewfinder when you are using a magnet to flip the LCD. The viewfinder does show inverted image, however. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

March 7th, 2007, 02:43 PM	#8
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	shooting using the JVC hd200 and my brevis is a joy due to the internal flip for both lcd/viewfinder and recording. it is so easy to use and I have no problems getting focus. For hand held there is nothing better out there __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

March 6th, 2007, 12:20 AM	#4
Charles Hurley Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 128	I'd pay 1000 dollars for an HVX lcd that was 640X480 and could flip with a switch. Beter yet i'd trade you my marshal for it.

March 6th, 2007, 07:25 PM	#7
Jon Wolding Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 195	Screw that... I want a 1080p LCD flipout!