Redrock, Brevis, SGPro Shootout

Chad Terpstra · January 18th, 2007, 01:42 PM

Wow six pages and still no review... ;-) I know it's not your fault but it shows how much interest there is in this topic. Chris or someone will have to trim all this down when your results actually hit the web. (be sure this post gets the ax first)

Looking forward to your review. BTW, I guess I'm lucky my cats are computer friendly...

Phil Bloom · January 18th, 2007, 01:47 PM

six?!!? i make it two!! it wil be done this weekend...i got the files with some help onto a usb 2 drive so full steam ahead!

Ing Poh Hii · January 18th, 2007, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Bloom

...so full steam ahead!

Oh! Fantasic !! I am now full head steaming for your golden words :D :D :D..

ta~

Mike Connolly · January 18th, 2007, 04:14 PM

A face off between the M2, Brevis and SGPro... multiple Firewire blowouts, 6 pages of frustrated posts... is this going to be the 'Lost in La Mancha' of 35mm adapter reviews, is is doomed not to happen?

Phil, we're all behind you, good luck... cut the red wire, not the green...

Dennis Wood · January 18th, 2007, 05:27 PM

Wow Phil ... I know exactly how you feel on the computer issues...frustrating as heck. By the way, Phil you are now officially the world's first dual Brevis owner :-)

Phil Bloom · January 18th, 2007, 06:36 PM

Fantastic! Let me know if someone else buys two and I will get another to go with the new diffuser! ;-)

Ian Lim · January 19th, 2007, 07:45 AM

Well Phil, I'm planning to buy one more Brevis, soon after I receive my Brevis from Dennis =) Actually I was waiting for your review, but cant wait any longer, so I just ordered Brevis myself couple days ago=)

Chad Terpstra · January 19th, 2007, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Lim

Actually I was waiting for your review, but cant wait any longer, so I just ordered Brevis myself couple days ago=)

I totally orderd one back when this thread was on page three. I didn't want to wait either. :-D

Phil Bloom · January 19th, 2007, 12:20 PM

What if my shootout says the Brevis is pile of poo? Joking, all three are superb.

I am doing it all now. I have published the start of it at www.philipbloom.net click on 35mm shootout. Keep checking back I will be adding to this every as soon as i get each section written

Phil

Phil Bloom · January 19th, 2007, 06:29 PM

I am progressing with part two but I am too knackered to finish it tonight, my typos are getting worse and worse. I will carry on tomorrow. I hope it is useful so far. I am trying to make it as relevent and as personal to my experiences as possible.

Phil

Dennis Wood · January 19th, 2007, 11:08 PM

So far so good Phil (I'll post up an edge-to-edge sharpness how-to at the cinevate forum). Just one correction. The Cinevate=Dennis comment is actually not correct...3 more have been added in the last six weeks or so. That's not counting Mike the CNC guy who does all our CAD and CNC work these days. I could still do it myself but we'd need to slow down the earth's rotation to make a day about 96 hours or so :-)

Soeren Mueller · January 20th, 2007, 04:04 AM

Thanks Phil!!
And yeah.. please someone clarify about the edge-to-edge sharpness issue with the Brevis... I was a little bit shocked/worried when I read that part! *sigh*
It was one of the main reasons I was going for the Cinevate/Brevis...
Thx!

Phil Bloom · January 20th, 2007, 07:48 AM

Thanks Dennis, The edge to edge problems I had were really minor and I didnt actually notice it. It was Wayne who noticed it. I will definately go to your forum and see how I can eliminate it entirely!

Ing Poh Hii · January 20th, 2007, 09:29 AM

Thank you very much Phil, lovely article for a surprisingly nice sunny day in UK :D.

I don't mind about the professional look of the product, more important is the quality of result and other practical option.

So far:
*Setup-time: Brevis > M2 > SGPro (even Wayne took 15 minutes.. wow!)
*Picture quality in term of edge-to-edge-sharpness: SGPro > Brevis > M2

Look forward to your next chapter of review.

Thanksss :D.

Phil Bloom · January 20th, 2007, 09:35 AM

Hi Ing

Glad you are liking it so far. I would say setup time for the m2 and sgpro would be much the same if wayne wasn't there so I wouldn't put the m2 ahead of it there.

Edge to edge is very subjective. All three are capable of edge to edge, just on that day in those conditions I was unable to get perfect edge edge on the m2 and brevis, but both of these are capable of it. With the M2 you just need to make sure you set it up in controlled conditions with a large monitor to make sure.

Also the SGPro does look professional, just not as much as the other two!

Considering that Wayne has never even seen the m2 before his SGPro takes the same idea behind it and improves it in some ways!

Phil

January 18th, 2007, 01:47 PM	#77
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	six?!!? i make it two!! it wil be done this weekend...i got the files with some help onto a usb 2 drive so full steam ahead! __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

January 18th, 2007, 06:36 PM	#81
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Fantastic! Let me know if someone else buys two and I will get another to go with the new diffuser! ;-) __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

January 19th, 2007, 12:20 PM	#84
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	What if my shootout says the Brevis is pile of poo? Joking, all three are superb. I am doing it all now. I have published the start of it at www.philipbloom.net click on 35mm shootout. Keep checking back I will be adding to this every as soon as i get each section written Phil __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net Last edited by Phil Bloom; January 19th, 2007 at 04:08 PM.

January 19th, 2007, 06:29 PM	#85
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	I am progressing with part two but I am too knackered to finish it tonight, my typos are getting worse and worse. I will carry on tomorrow. I hope it is useful so far. I am trying to make it as relevent and as personal to my experiences as possible. Phil __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

January 20th, 2007, 07:48 AM	#88
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Thanks Dennis, The edge to edge problems I had were really minor and I didnt actually notice it. It was Wayne who noticed it. I will definately go to your forum and see how I can eliminate it entirely! __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

January 18th, 2007, 01:42 PM	#76
Chad Terpstra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 320	Wow six pages and still no review... ;-) I know it's not your fault but it shows how much interest there is in this topic. Chris or someone will have to trim all this down when your results actually hit the web. (be sure this post gets the ax first) Looking forward to your review. BTW, I guess I'm lucky my cats are computer friendly...

January 18th, 2007, 04:14 PM	#79
Mike Connolly New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brighton, UK Posts: 16	A face off between the M2, Brevis and SGPro... multiple Firewire blowouts, 6 pages of frustrated posts... is this going to be the 'Lost in La Mancha' of 35mm adapter reviews, is is doomed not to happen? Phil, we're all behind you, good luck... cut the red wire, not the green...

January 18th, 2007, 05:27 PM	#80
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	Wow Phil ... I know exactly how you feel on the computer issues...frustrating as heck. By the way, Phil you are now officially the world's first dual Brevis owner :-)

January 19th, 2007, 07:45 AM	#82
Ian Lim Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 178	Well Phil, I'm planning to buy one more Brevis, soon after I receive my Brevis from Dennis =) Actually I was waiting for your review, but cant wait any longer, so I just ordered Brevis myself couple days ago=)

January 19th, 2007, 11:08 PM	#86
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	So far so good Phil (I'll post up an edge-to-edge sharpness how-to at the cinevate forum). Just one correction. The Cinevate=Dennis comment is actually not correct...3 more have been added in the last six weeks or so. That's not counting Mike the CNC guy who does all our CAD and CNC work these days. I could still do it myself but we'd need to slow down the earth's rotation to make a day about 96 hours or so :-)

January 20th, 2007, 04:04 AM	#87
Soeren Mueller Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Düsseldorf, Germany / Denver, CO Posts: 137	Thanks Phil!! And yeah.. please someone clarify about the edge-to-edge sharpness issue with the Brevis... I was a little bit shocked/worried when I read that part! sigh It was one of the main reasons I was going for the Cinevate/Brevis... Thx!

January 20th, 2007, 09:29 AM	#89
Ing Poh Hii Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kuching, Malaysia Posts: 104	Thank you very much Phil, lovely article for a surprisingly nice sunny day in UK :D. I don't mind about the professional look of the product, more important is the quality of result and other practical option. So far: Setup-time: Brevis > M2 > SGPro (even Wayne took 15 minutes.. wow!) Picture quality in term of edge-to-edge-sharpness: SGPro > Brevis > M2 Look forward to your next chapter of review. Thanksss :D.

January 20th, 2007, 09:35 AM	#90
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Hi Ing Glad you are liking it so far. I would say setup time for the m2 and sgpro would be much the same if wayne wasn't there so I wouldn't put the m2 ahead of it there. Edge to edge is very subjective. All three are capable of edge to edge, just on that day in those conditions I was unable to get perfect edge edge on the m2 and brevis, but both of these are capable of it. With the M2 you just need to make sure you set it up in controlled conditions with a large monitor to make sure. Also the SGPro does look professional, just not as much as the other two! Considering that Wayne has never even seen the m2 before his SGPro takes the same idea behind it and improves it in some ways! Phil __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net