Redrock, Brevis, SGPro Shootout

Dennis Wood · December 29th, 2006, 08:12 PM

Well, I could ship you a nice PC. (sorry, couldn't resist...I love Macs too)

Chris Barcellos · December 30th, 2006, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Bloom

yes it is arne

I have hit a snag with the results. My Mac's firewire ports have completely stopped responding. I have no idea why and have tried all sorts of fixes. Until I get this fixed I can't access any of the footage. If anyone can help I would be very grateful!

Don't know Macs, but I stuggled with my firewire ports for a long time on my PC, turned out it was a bad cable. I assume you have tried different cables...

Phil Bloom · January 2nd, 2007, 10:00 AM

yeah. it loos like the firewire bus has somehow burnt out. Going to get the files onto a usb2 drive so I can still do the write up.

I have also got a new mac pro on order which will make everything SOOO much easier.

Ing Poh Hii · January 4th, 2007, 09:44 AM

Hi Phil, have you fixed the firewire problem ?

If you are busy on work, I wonder whether you can quickly post up few screengrabs from the similar scene for each adapter before writing your review. A daylight outdoor shoot (w/o cc) would be very helpful.

many thanks ~

Phil Bloom · January 6th, 2007, 07:41 AM

Sorry Ing,

Still got the firewire issue. My Macbook is in for repair. I have a Mac Pro due for delivery this week so fingers crossed by next weekend the review will done!

Phil

Bill Ravens · January 6th, 2007, 08:36 AM

a little off topic, but, nevertheless...
a lot of manufacturers are now warning about hot plugging/unplugging 6-pin firewire connections. 2 of the pins carry power...apparently it's quite possible to short the power pins to one of the other pins. if the devices aren't shut off, you stand the risk of burning them out.

Phil Bloom · January 6th, 2007, 09:08 AM

Bill,

You are spot on. Both my imac and macbook pro firewires have been blown by hotswapping Western Digital MY book firewire drives. Let that be a warning to you all!!!!

My MacPro arrives on Monday (just checked tracking) I have now learned my lesson!

Ing Poh Hii · January 8th, 2007, 06:11 AM

Thank you Phil,

I thought it was just a replacement of a firewire cable.. now you have sent in for repairing.. that is bad, i hope you won't lose your data and everything turns up allright especially your new Mac.

Look forward to your review next week : ).

Dennis Hingsberg · January 9th, 2007, 09:14 AM

Hey Phil, whilst the trusty post systems delivers you your new MAC - what types of test results might we expect in your report anyway?

Cheers mate and thanks for doing this - interest to many folk around here.

Phil Bloom · January 9th, 2007, 09:35 AM

something very very wrong with my external hard drives. My new mac pro firewire has died the day I got it. It has to be the western digital my drive I have, sending too much power of something. I know one thing. I will never plug it into a firewire port again. Three macs, all with dead firewire.

Dennis,

The three are very similar in quality of images, with strengths and weaknesses for all. It will be a question of what each individual is looking for with a toss up between flexibility, set up time, picture quality, daily use and light loss.

Dennis Hingsberg · January 9th, 2007, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Bloom

The three are very similar in quality of images, with strengths and weaknesses for all. It will be a question of what each individual is looking for with a toss up between flexibility, set up time, picture quality, daily use and light loss.

Can you also include total weight of complete setup with or without lens, and with or without camera (since I don't remember what camera you were using)?

I've used XL2 and mini35 a lot, it weighs near 13lbs. More once you throw a lens, matte box and wireless receiver on it. This data would be great.

Any chance for you to perform the write-up in advance of posting screen shots or footage?

Mike Connolly · January 9th, 2007, 05:55 PM

Phil, can't you use the USB2 on the MyBook?
Once you've got your footage off, I'd bin it and bite the bullet for a G-Drive or G-RAID. Wonderfull bits of kit.

I'm really sorry to hear about your fried ports. Not a funny situation to be in.

Ing Poh Hii · January 11th, 2007, 12:05 PM

Phil, if possible, please can you check your mailbox...

many thanks.

Phil Bloom · January 11th, 2007, 12:10 PM

i promise to have this done asap. The new mac is being shipped tomorrow and will arrive on monday. I will remove the P2 files off the bad hardrive using usb2 when i get this. Once I have done that I will write it up.

Again, sorry for the delay!

Ing Poh Hii · January 11th, 2007, 01:33 PM

Thank you very much Phil, I thought you have lost your data and hesitate to write a review without footage to show...

Thanks a lot again, look forward to this next week. I shall buy you a drink (if you don't mind I myself can't drink :-).. get drunk by just half a cup of lagar.. ;p).

January 2nd, 2007, 10:00 AM	#48
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	yeah. it loos like the firewire bus has somehow burnt out. Going to get the files onto a usb2 drive so I can still do the write up. I have also got a new mac pro on order which will make everything SOOO much easier. __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

January 6th, 2007, 07:41 AM	#50
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Sorry Ing, Still got the firewire issue. My Macbook is in for repair. I have a Mac Pro due for delivery this week so fingers crossed by next weekend the review will done! Phil __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

January 6th, 2007, 09:08 AM	#52
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Bill, You are spot on. Both my imac and macbook pro firewires have been blown by hotswapping Western Digital MY book firewire drives. Let that be a warning to you all!!!! My MacPro arrives on Monday (just checked tracking) I have now learned my lesson! __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

January 9th, 2007, 09:14 AM	#54
Dennis Hingsberg Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,055	Hey Phil, whilst the trusty post systems delivers you your new MAC - what types of test results might we expect in your report anyway? Cheers mate and thanks for doing this - interest to many folk around here. __________________ Blog: www.hingsberg.com Ultimate Exposure Guides for FS5/F7S/F5/F55

January 9th, 2007, 09:35 AM	#55
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	something very very wrong with my external hard drives. My new mac pro firewire has died the day I got it. It has to be the western digital my drive I have, sending too much power of something. I know one thing. I will never plug it into a firewire port again. Three macs, all with dead firewire. Dennis, The three are very similar in quality of images, with strengths and weaknesses for all. It will be a question of what each individual is looking for with a toss up between flexibility, set up time, picture quality, daily use and light loss. __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

December 29th, 2006, 08:12 PM	#46
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	Well, I could ship you a nice PC. (sorry, couldn't resist...I love Macs too)

January 4th, 2007, 09:44 AM	#49
Ing Poh Hii Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kuching, Malaysia Posts: 104	Hi Phil, have you fixed the firewire problem ? If you are busy on work, I wonder whether you can quickly post up few screengrabs from the similar scene for each adapter before writing your review. A daylight outdoor shoot (w/o cc) would be very helpful. many thanks ~

January 6th, 2007, 08:36 AM	#51
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	a little off topic, but, nevertheless... a lot of manufacturers are now warning about hot plugging/unplugging 6-pin firewire connections. 2 of the pins carry power...apparently it's quite possible to short the power pins to one of the other pins. if the devices aren't shut off, you stand the risk of burning them out.

January 8th, 2007, 06:11 AM	#53
Ing Poh Hii Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kuching, Malaysia Posts: 104	Thank you Phil, I thought it was just a replacement of a firewire cable.. now you have sent in for repairing.. that is bad, i hope you won't lose your data and everything turns up allright especially your new Mac. Look forward to your review next week : ).

January 9th, 2007, 05:55 PM	#57
Mike Connolly New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brighton, UK Posts: 16	Phil, can't you use the USB2 on the MyBook? Once you've got your footage off, I'd bin it and bite the bullet for a G-Drive or G-RAID. Wonderfull bits of kit. I'm really sorry to hear about your fried ports. Not a funny situation to be in.

January 11th, 2007, 12:05 PM	#58
Ing Poh Hii Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kuching, Malaysia Posts: 104	Phil, if possible, please can you check your mailbox... many thanks.

January 11th, 2007, 12:10 PM	#59
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	i promise to have this done asap. The new mac is being shipped tomorrow and will arrive on monday. I will remove the P2 files off the bad hardrive using usb2 when i get this. Once I have done that I will write it up. Again, sorry for the delay! __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

January 11th, 2007, 01:33 PM	#60
Ing Poh Hii Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kuching, Malaysia Posts: 104	Thank you very much Phil, I thought you have lost your data and hesitate to write a review without footage to show... Thanks a lot again, look forward to this next week. I shall buy you a drink (if you don't mind I myself can't drink :-).. get drunk by just half a cup of lagar.. ;p).