Redrock, Brevis, SGPro Shootout

[Phil Bloom]

i am trying to sell my hvx at the mo!

[Dennis Hingsberg]

Me too actually, buy mine and I'll buy yours ; )

[Phil Bloom]

you getting any sniffs of interest? What you buying instead? Did you ever use your hvx?

[James Collinson]

Hi Phil,

I was wondering how much in sterling your Brevis ended up costing with delivery and any duty paid?

I am looking to buy and still swithering between the revis and the SGPro...

Also, what lenses would you recomend for a bloke on a budget?

Still havent managed to watch your Channel 4 documentary - 4oD REALLY need to get some Mac support!


Jim

[Dennis Hingsberg]

Well I just listed it so we'll see. I haven't used it other than turning it on to make sure it works. I don't know if you read it in my other post but I was considering having the stock lens removed and body adapted to C-mount or bayonet mount for direct use with 35mm adapters, but was going to have my own relay lens assembly designed. This coupled with the built in features of the HVX and ability to record o P2 make it one heck a killer combo! I'm still not overly fond of HDV, like I said before I'm torn in which direction to go. I'm currently using Canon with the PS Technik mini35.

[Phil Bloom]

Originally Posted by James Collinson

Hi Phil,

I was wondering how much in sterling your Brevis ended up costing with delivery and any duty paid?

I am looking to buy and still swithering between the revis and the SGPro...

Also, what lenses would you recomend for a bloke on a budget?

Still havent managed to watch your Channel 4 documentary - 4oD REALLY need to get some Mac support!


Jim

don't bother the first doco was pants, my stuff was less than a quarter. The stuff with most of the brevis and m2 footage airs in a couple of weeks or so...you can get them off bittorrent!

Brevis and duty came to around a thousand quid...lenses look for f1.8 used manual focus nikkors. work a treat

[Christopher Barry]

Originally Posted by Ing Poh Hii

Thank you Phil for your confirmation, so overexposure is nothing to do with Brevis...

... Like a recent footage from Brevis user: Christopher Barry at www.siliconcine.net, he got the similar problem in handling exposure in his latest outdoor test (test 3, Brevis with Nikon 85mm F2.0), either too bright or the front-object is too dark to see...

Ing, thanks for taking the time to look at my first little test of the Brevis and the HVX for that matter. What I have not done is taken the time to read all of this thread, hopefully later tonight I will.

Regarding that 85mm test, I had just broken the FW connection to the mobo on my notebook which records via DV Rack, so I was kind of upset, in a hurry and just wanted to try an outdoor and the 85mm. The Dynamic Range of light between exposing the background and subject was too broad. I should have setup a light/CTB. My observation of this shot is that the Brevis functions well with amazingly low levels of light, even though we did a poor job of scene setup.

I hope this is not too late in the thread to reply and this is my first post on DVi, first Brevis test and early days as a user of the HVX. In a few weeks from now, I will have some more tests and setups to share.

edit: Thanks to Steve Madsen, some of the test footage is from his HVX/Brevis combo 720p25. My HVX/Brevis combo 720p24. Great to have two cams and Brevis' and be only a relatively short drive away.

[Ben Winter]

I'm still going to do my tests with the ND filter and Low Contrast filter, but since they're special-ordered they're taking quite some time to come.

[Ing Poh Hii]

Originally Posted by Christopher Barry

Ing, thanks for taking the time to look at my first little test of the Brevis and the HVX for that matter. What I have not done is taken the time to read all of this thread, hopefully later tonight I will.

Regarding that 85mm test, I had just broken the FW connection to the mobo on my notebook which records via DV Rack, so I was kind of upset, in a hurry and just wanted to try an outdoor and the 85mm. The Dynamic Range of light between exposing the background and subject was too broad. I should have setup a light/CTB. My observation of this shot is that the Brevis functions well with amazingly low levels of light, even though we did a poor job of scene setup.

I hope this is not too late in the thread to reply and this is my first post on DVi, first Brevis test and early days as a user of the HVX. In a few weeks from now, I will have some more tests and setups to share.

edit: Thanks to Steve Madsen, some of the test footage is from his HVX/Brevis combo 720p25. My HVX/Brevis combo 720p24. Great to have two cams and Brevis' and be only a relatively short drive away.

Hi Christopher, thank you very much for paying attention to this thread especially to my comment on your quick test (without even acknowledge you first ;p). I am going away for 2 weeks chinese new year holiday from 18th Feb, these days I just busy on buying gift to my family. I find it is too hard to justify between SGPro & Brevis so I hold up myself to make decision now.

If you can help to produce more test, that would be very helpful to me especially you are from Australia, plenty of sunshine at the moment :D.

I will see you all after holiday :D.

[Christopher Barry]

Ing, the Brevis is on the road at the moment. I should have it back around the time of your return, so I hope to soon thereafter have a few more tests uploaded.

Have a good break/celebration.

[Amr Toukhy]

Originally Posted by Phil Bloom

Hi Jane

it is too long and much too slow. I wouldn't touch anything over f2.8

Aim for prime lenses around f1.8 or f1.4 if you can afford them. My sigma 20mm is f1.8 and my vivitar 135mm is f2.3. my 35mm, 50mm and 85mm are f1.4/ I have a zoom that is f2.8 24mm to 70mm and it works fine.

I have now uploaded a hgh resolution file

http://www.1080studio.com/philipbloom/jvcbrevis2.mp4

it is over 60mb. Thanks to Chris Witzke for hosting the file for me!

those were very artistic shots man, did you use the 20mm with the brevis35 can you post any grabs how sharp was it !!! thanks

[Phil Bloom]

http://web.mac.com/philip.bloom/iWeb...evis%2035.html

thanks!

click the link above and look at the stills from the film. picture 2 and 4 are the 20mm

[Chad Terpstra]

Wow is that ever a long rig! Now I know what I have to look forward to. Hey, at least it works. -Until the relay comes about.

Is that the professional tripod plate I see under your camera? Does this help in some way? Did you already say what rails you were using? Thanks.

[Phil Bloom]

yes the jvc has front and back sony professional tripod mount connectors for the VCT14u plate and my tripod is a vinten vision 11. It does help as the camera is completely secure. It needs to be with that weight and balance.

The rods on the JVC are cavision ones but I recommend the ones from DVTEC. Cheaper and better made.

[Farishad Latjuba]

Originally Posted by Phil Bloom

with regards to relays for the jvc...is there anyone with much experience with the mini 35 who thinks it could be possible to take the relay for that camera and use it with other adaptors out there. likewise, take quyen's letus relay and adapt it for other adaptors?

Hi Phil....
If not relay lens, what about the one made by Les Bosher in UK?
Will that kind of adapter will work in achieving DOF in JVC HD201?
I'm a newbie here and still don't have any DOF adapter yet.