Redrock vs Brevis

Phil Bloom · December 6th, 2006, 04:00 PM

I am meeting up with Wayne Kinney of SGpro fame at the weekend for a 3 way shootout between the M2, Brevis and of course the SGPro. I expect we will start a new thread once we have done it and have results and examples for people to see.

Wayne Kinney · December 6th, 2006, 04:39 PM

Phil,
Should be an interesting day, looking forward to it!

Theodoros Chliapas · December 6th, 2006, 04:54 PM

It should be an interesting day for sure! :)

Thanks a lot in advance Phil and Wayne.

Sam Jankis · December 6th, 2006, 08:21 PM

We really need to find a GG gold standard.

That's the biggest difference between all these lower cost adapters.

Maybe I'll start working on it when my adapter comes in...

Ben Winter · December 7th, 2006, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Jankis

We really need to find a GG gold standard.

That's the biggest difference between all these lower cost adapters.

Maybe I'll start working on it when my adapter comes in...

Golly, you think the M2, Brevis and SGpro are low cost? *shivers*

well actually I suppose they are compared to the P+S, but still....

Dennis Wood · December 7th, 2006, 04:58 PM

I agree Ben. When I began this project, it was supposed to be a $500 adapter. However, there's a magic balance between cost, and a professionalish (just made my own word) tool.

Btw, just posted XHA1 footage here.

Sam Jankis · December 7th, 2006, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Jankis

We really need to find a GG gold standard.

That's the biggest difference between all these lower cost adapters.

Maybe I'll start working on it when my adapter comes in...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Winter

Golly, you think the M2, Brevis and SGpro are low cost? *shivers*

well actually I suppose they are compared to the P+S, but still....

Lower, not low. ;)

Phil Bloom · December 8th, 2006, 03:53 PM

Shot some lovely, lovely stuff with the Brevis today. Up until today I have been using the Redrock for most of the interviews with a nice 500watt Rifa as a key. Today I was in a homeless shelter and there was no way I could set up my light so I had to use available. So I used the Brevis for all the stuff today.

This is one seriously good adaptor. I screwed it on to my HVX200 and I was ready to shoot in 60 seconds, no fiddling like the M2. But best of all I was able to use available light with no gain and it looked awesome. I don't mean awesome in the oversused American way where anything that is OK is awesome. This truly was AWESOME!

I got a beautiful bokeh and was able to get some absolutely terrific images. My mount is working fine now, although I still expect to get Dennis Wood's revised mount any day now. The pulsating I got the other day was because I stupidly had it on the wrong shutter speed that was matching the vibration of the GG, am new to the HVX so didn't realise it was on initially, wondered why it wasn't as bright as it should have been!

The M2 is a terrific tool, for getting lovely film like images. But you need time. I am shooting a doco series and the Brevis is perfect for quick set up times and a wonderful filmic image. Pair it with 720p on the HVX and you have a perfect setup. It truly looks a million dollars.

Sunday will be very interesting indeed seeing the SGPRO. But for just ease of setup and quality of images you can't beat the Brevis. I love my M2, and if I have time to light stuff I will still use it. Each one has a different look and are useful tools for different occasions.

Dennis Wood · December 8th, 2006, 07:10 PM

Phil, I think you'll like the C3 diffuser. The new Nikon mounts are night and day better too :-)

Phil Bloom · December 10th, 2006, 06:24 PM

Wayney Kinney and I met up today for our "shootout" between the M2, Brevis and SGpro. Results were very interesting.

Time permitting I hope to post the comparisons here soon.

Sam Jankis · December 10th, 2006, 08:49 PM

The sooner, the better.

Steve Witt · December 11th, 2006, 12:53 AM

Phil....Lucky you explained your use of the word "Awesome" otherwise I would have thought that you meant it was just "OK".

Dennis....I saw the footage posted from your Brevis+CanonA1 and it looks very nice.
I have a neighbor that looks almost identical to the man in your sample clips.

Phil Bloom · December 11th, 2006, 02:02 AM

Glad to be of help with my use of the American language ;-)

Having dated an American woman for a while I know when awesome actually meant, yeah you were OK!

Marcus Marchesseault · December 11th, 2006, 02:23 AM

I liked Spud!

December 6th, 2006, 04:00 PM	#31
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	I am meeting up with Wayne Kinney of SGpro fame at the weekend for a 3 way shootout between the M2, Brevis and of course the SGPro. I expect we will start a new thread once we have done it and have results and examples for people to see. __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

December 6th, 2006, 04:39 PM	#32
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Phil, Should be an interesting day, looking forward to it! __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

December 8th, 2006, 03:53 PM	#38
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Shot some lovely, lovely stuff with the Brevis today. Up until today I have been using the Redrock for most of the interviews with a nice 500watt Rifa as a key. Today I was in a homeless shelter and there was no way I could set up my light so I had to use available. So I used the Brevis for all the stuff today. This is one seriously good adaptor. I screwed it on to my HVX200 and I was ready to shoot in 60 seconds, no fiddling like the M2. But best of all I was able to use available light with no gain and it looked awesome. I don't mean awesome in the oversused American way where anything that is OK is awesome. This truly was AWESOME! I got a beautiful bokeh and was able to get some absolutely terrific images. My mount is working fine now, although I still expect to get Dennis Wood's revised mount any day now. The pulsating I got the other day was because I stupidly had it on the wrong shutter speed that was matching the vibration of the GG, am new to the HVX so didn't realise it was on initially, wondered why it wasn't as bright as it should have been! The M2 is a terrific tool, for getting lovely film like images. But you need time. I am shooting a doco series and the Brevis is perfect for quick set up times and a wonderful filmic image. Pair it with 720p on the HVX and you have a perfect setup. It truly looks a million dollars. Sunday will be very interesting indeed seeing the SGPRO. But for just ease of setup and quality of images you can't beat the Brevis. I love my M2, and if I have time to light stuff I will still use it. Each one has a different look and are useful tools for different occasions. __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net Last edited by Phil Bloom; December 8th, 2006 at 04:26 PM.

December 10th, 2006, 06:24 PM	#40
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Wayney Kinney and I met up today for our "shootout" between the M2, Brevis and SGpro. Results were very interesting. Time permitting I hope to post the comparisons here soon. __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

December 11th, 2006, 02:02 AM	#43
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Glad to be of help with my use of the American language ;-) Having dated an American woman for a while I know when awesome actually meant, yeah you were OK! __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

December 6th, 2006, 04:54 PM	#33
Theodoros Chliapas Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Greece Posts: 58	It should be an interesting day for sure! :) Thanks a lot in advance Phil and Wayne.

December 6th, 2006, 08:21 PM	#34
Sam Jankis Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 223	We really need to find a GG gold standard. That's the biggest difference between all these lower cost adapters. Maybe I'll start working on it when my adapter comes in...

December 7th, 2006, 04:58 PM	#36
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	I agree Ben. When I began this project, it was supposed to be a $500 adapter. However, there's a magic balance between cost, and a professionalish (just made my own word) tool. Btw, just posted XHA1 footage here.

December 8th, 2006, 07:10 PM	#39
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	Phil, I think you'll like the C3 diffuser. The new Nikon mounts are night and day better too :-)

December 10th, 2006, 08:49 PM	#41
Sam Jankis Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 223	The sooner, the better.

December 11th, 2006, 12:53 AM	#42
Steve Witt Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: kentucky, USA Posts: 429	Phil....Lucky you explained your use of the word "Awesome" otherwise I would have thought that you meant it was just "OK". Dennis....I saw the footage posted from your Brevis+CanonA1 and it looks very nice. I have a neighbor that looks almost identical to the man in your sample clips.

December 11th, 2006, 02:23 AM	#44
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	I liked Spud!