Is anyone using the HC1 w/ Letus FE at DVinfo.net

Paul Watkins · November 4th, 2006, 09:29 PM

I am a video novice. However, I am picky about the look. So, I use the HC1 with the Letus Flip Enhanced (cheapest HD setup at time). It is difficult to light for this combination, atleast for me. I wanted to know if anyone hear is using this combination? And if so, how to you properly light for it indoors.

Also, I did a couple of small samples so you can see what it produces outdoors.
Note: I'm still waiting for my follow focus so the video is a little shaky.

first sample: http://home.comcast.net/~pwatkins1/f...ILER_LARGE.mov

second sample: http://home.comcast.net/~pwatkins1/216.mov

Camera: Sony HC1
35mm Adapter: Letus Flip
Lens: Canon fd 1.4F

Alex Thames · November 4th, 2006, 10:03 PM

What exactly is a follow-focus?

Paul Watkins · November 4th, 2006, 10:58 PM

A follow focus is a device used to focus your lenses without a lot of movement. here is the link to the one I ordered. I think it's the cheapest one out there.

http://indifocus.com/

Michael Y Wong · November 5th, 2006, 04:00 AM

From what I know you lose a @ least a stop using a 35mm adapter, and since urs is the letus Flip you will lose even more light. Thus for indoors, for every stop you lose, you will need double the amoun of light!

Btw the footage looks beautiful!!!!!!!! In full res is the 'focused' subjects 100% sharp and fully detailed to HD spec? Or is it slighty soft?

Btw what music was playign in that long demo? Superman? It is so familiar!

Paul Watkins · November 5th, 2006, 11:24 AM

Btw the footage looks beautiful!!!!!!!! In full res is the 'focused' subjects 100% sharp and fully detailed to HD spec? Or is it slighty soft?

Thanks for the complement!

The sharpness is cranked up. You can lose some sharpness because of the 35mm adapter, so I set it to offset that detail lost in the long clip. But, it is slightly soft in the short clip ( 2 spots)

Btw what music was playign in that long demo? Superman? You are correct!!

Tony Macasaet · November 5th, 2006, 11:36 AM

For the shallow dof alone, especially with ample light, a worthy enhancement IMHO. I'm shopping for one now for my A1.

Jung Kyu · November 7th, 2006, 09:12 AM

Paul Watkins if you want filmlook try this setting

AS-4
reduce color level -3
reduce all the sharpness
outdoor white balance
+1 or +2 warm white balance

always use 60 shutter speed...in case 24p conversion.

min35 or letus may have film look but it sacarify too much of origianl image quality.

Alex Thames · November 7th, 2006, 10:48 AM

Hi Jung, what is AS-4? Thanks for your tips on the film look. You've made some pretty spectacular clips in the past.

Also, do you use the outdoor white balance preset? Or do you do a manual white balance when you are outdoors? What about indoor shots - what white balance do you use indoors?

Paul Watkins · November 7th, 2006, 11:16 AM

How do you obtain a DOF like film?

Jung Kyu · November 7th, 2006, 11:18 PM

AS -4 is manual exposure..it will look like ND4 filter without degrading image quality..

here's the sample..

http://www.camuser.co.kr/cam_vm/VID_.../11/indorr.wmv

Zoom in 5x if need DOF

Saul Kongvongsay · November 8th, 2006, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jung Kyu

Paul Watkins if you want filmlook try this setting

AS-4
reduce color level -3
reduce all the sharpness
outdoor white balance
+1 or +2 warm white balance

always use 60 shutter speed...in case 24p conversion.

min35 or letus may have film look but it sacarify too much of origianl image quality.

How do I set the manual shutter speed to 60, mine is set on auto and when go to shutter speed tab is darkin out.
Also +1 or +2 warm white balance.... how do I set this?

Thanks

Alex Thames · November 10th, 2006, 04:19 PM

How do you do manual exposure -4? I still don't understand. Also, following the other settings, the picture seems very dull and unsaturated. Are we supposed to boost up saturation in post? If so, then why -3 color in the first place?

Stu Holmes · November 10th, 2006, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Thames

How do you do manual exposure -4? I still don't understand.

I think Jung means by AS-4 to use the AE SHIFT function on your cam (it's still auto exposure) and set that to a value of -4.
This will expose at 4 clicks (i think thats' 4 half-stops, so 2 full stops) below what the camera would have done if you'd just left it on normal Auto-Exposure.

Mikko Lopponen · November 10th, 2006, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Kongvongsay

How do I set the manual shutter speed to 60, mine is set on auto and when go to shutter speed tab is darkin out.
Also +1 or +2 warm white balance.... how do I set this?

If you lock the exposure you can't change shutter.

Alex Thames · November 10th, 2006, 06:30 PM

Just use manual shutter set at 60.

But does anyone know how to achieve the film colors, esp. if the color setting is -3?

November 4th, 2006, 09:29 PM	#1
Paul Watkins Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: glassboro, NJ Posts: 87	Is anyone using the HC1 w/ Letus FE I am a video novice. However, I am picky about the look. So, I use the HC1 with the Letus Flip Enhanced (cheapest HD setup at time). It is difficult to light for this combination, atleast for me. I wanted to know if anyone hear is using this combination? And if so, how to you properly light for it indoors. Also, I did a couple of small samples so you can see what it produces outdoors. Note: I'm still waiting for my follow focus so the video is a little shaky. first sample: http://home.comcast.net/~pwatkins1/f...ILER_LARGE.mov second sample: http://home.comcast.net/~pwatkins1/216.mov Camera: Sony HC1 35mm Adapter: Letus Flip Lens: Canon fd 1.4F

November 4th, 2006, 10:58 PM	#3
Paul Watkins Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: glassboro, NJ Posts: 87	what is a follow focus? A follow focus is a device used to focus your lenses without a lot of movement. here is the link to the one I ordered. I think it's the cheapest one out there. http://indifocus.com/

November 5th, 2006, 04:00 AM	#4
Michael Y Wong Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada! Posts: 353	From what I know you lose a @ least a stop using a 35mm adapter, and since urs is the letus Flip you will lose even more light. Thus for indoors, for every stop you lose, you will need double the amoun of light! Btw the footage looks beautiful!!!!!!!! In full res is the 'focused' subjects 100% sharp and fully detailed to HD spec? Or is it slighty soft? Btw what music was playign in that long demo? Superman? It is so familiar! __________________ dreaming hobbyist + storyteller www.michaelywong.com

November 5th, 2006, 11:36 AM	#6
Tony Macasaet Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Viroqua, WI Posts: 49	For the shallow dof alone, especially with ample light, a worthy enhancement IMHO. I'm shopping for one now for my A1. __________________ ~Dr. Tony Macasaet http://www.macastat.com

November 7th, 2006, 09:12 AM	#7
Jung Kyu Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 143	.. Paul Watkins if you want filmlook try this setting AS-4 reduce color level -3 reduce all the sharpness outdoor white balance +1 or +2 warm white balance always use 60 shutter speed...in case 24p conversion. min35 or letus may have film look but it sacarify too much of origianl image quality.

November 4th, 2006, 10:03 PM	#2
Alex Thames Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 508	What exactly is a follow-focus?

November 5th, 2006, 11:24 AM	#5
Paul Watkins Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: glassboro, NJ Posts: 87	Btw the footage looks beautiful!!!!!!!! In full res is the 'focused' subjects 100% sharp and fully detailed to HD spec? Or is it slighty soft? Thanks for the complement! The sharpness is cranked up. You can lose some sharpness because of the 35mm adapter, so I set it to offset that detail lost in the long clip. But, it is slightly soft in the short clip ( 2 spots) Btw what music was playign in that long demo? Superman? You are correct!!

November 7th, 2006, 10:48 AM	#8
Alex Thames Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 508	Hi Jung, what is AS-4? Thanks for your tips on the film look. You've made some pretty spectacular clips in the past. Also, do you use the outdoor white balance preset? Or do you do a manual white balance when you are outdoors? What about indoor shots - what white balance do you use indoors?

November 7th, 2006, 11:16 AM	#9
Paul Watkins Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: glassboro, NJ Posts: 87	min35 or letus may have film look but it sacarify too much of origianl image quality. How do you obtain a DOF like film?

November 7th, 2006, 11:18 PM	#10
Jung Kyu Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 143	.. AS -4 is manual exposure..it will look like ND4 filter without degrading image quality.. here's the sample.. http://www.camuser.co.kr/cam_vm/VID_.../11/indorr.wmv Zoom in 5x if need DOF

November 10th, 2006, 04:19 PM	#12
Alex Thames Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 508	How do you do manual exposure -4? I still don't understand. Also, following the other settings, the picture seems very dull and unsaturated. Are we supposed to boost up saturation in post? If so, then why -3 color in the first place?

November 10th, 2006, 06:30 PM	#15
Alex Thames Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 508	Just use manual shutter set at 60. But does anyone know how to achieve the film colors, esp. if the color setting is -3?