SGpro Revision 2/FX1 footage

Wayne Kinney · September 14th, 2006, 04:03 PM

If anyone would like me to upload a small clip from the above footage in full HD res, let me know the time index of the clip, and I can upload it. Maybe a 5 second clip from the footage.

Zulkifli Yusof · September 16th, 2006, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Kinney

We are working on the PL mount now. We think its likely that it will become available at the end of October.

That sounds good! I'll definitely get the PL and Nikon mounts. Nikons for small projects and rent cine primes for bigger projects!! :) The added option of a PL mount is so cool Im drooling.

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Originally Posted by Wayne Kinney

However, the XL2 is guaranteed to work with the SGpro Rev.2. The support rods have offset holes machined ready for the XL series.

If I make an order for the XL series, would it readily work on other cameras like the sonys or panasonics as well? I'll be shooting on a borrowed/rented XL2 most of the time but I would like to have it work on other cameras should the need arises.

Thanks

Wayne Kinney · September 16th, 2006, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zulkifli Yusof

If I make an order for the XL series, would it readily work on other cameras like the sonys or panasonics as well? I'll be shooting on a borrowed/rented XL2 most of the time but I would like to have it work on other cameras should the need arises.
Thanks

Yes it will. The support's base plate is adjustable left/right and also in height via the provided shims. The rear of the SGpro is 72mm thread, so you would need a step ring for anything other then 72mmm (HVX200).

Thomas Richter · September 16th, 2006, 11:35 AM

Hi Wayne,

it would be great if you could upload a 5sec part of the scene where you stopped down the iris in the pub clip. Original MPEG2 would be great, no need to flip for these samples - better to have a feel for how the camera captures the situation and compresses it.

And, but that's bonus, a 5 sec part of the Brighton Peer scene - possibly something with the 24mm lens to assess the hotspot/ sharpness situation wide open in broad daylight. Again 5 secs mpeg2 or less.

It would be awesome and greatly help to realise the full beauty of your creation.

Thanks in advance,

Thomas

Wayne Kinney · September 16th, 2006, 11:56 AM

Thomas,

Sure, i'll try and get that uploaded a little later for you.

Thomas Richter · September 17th, 2006, 10:22 AM

Thanks a lot. I'm so much looking forward to this great stuff. Being a bloody perfectionist I want to count the grain pixels :-)

I am convinced there will be few

Wayne Kinney · September 17th, 2006, 11:50 AM

Hi,

I've managed to upload a few clips in full resolution MPEG2. Each is around 10MB:

http://www.sgpro.co.uk/fullres_pub01.m2v

http://www.sgpro.co.uk/fullres_pub02.m2v

http://www.sgpro.co.uk/fullres_pub03.m2v

http://www.sgpro.co.uk/fullres_pub04.m2v

http://www.sgpro.co.uk/fullres_24mm01.m2v

http://www.sgpro.co.uk/fullres_50mm01.m2v

Thomas Richter · September 17th, 2006, 02:33 PM

Awesome, and so much material.

I am very happy now.

To anyone who might read this: You must download the uncompressed material, it's sensational.

Can't see any increased compression artifacts with VLC on a 19inch 1440 by 900 LCD screen (viewing distance: 20 cm, compared to my usual FX1 footage).

Very sharp - and just like film, no visible grain in the in-focus areas.

Wayne Kinney · September 17th, 2006, 03:55 PM

Thanks Thomas,

Only thing that annoyed me about the footage, was I found the FX1 to be very noisey (video noise). I explorered this more after the shoot, and it was the same without the adapter, and even outside so it was not low light.

Anyone else found the FX1 to be like this?

Alexandre Lucena · September 17th, 2006, 03:55 PM

Congats Wayne.

I saw the pic of the face and I could almost listen to the man`s thought
as it was so isolated from the background. He was thinking `these
blokes are screwing PS technik`.

Best of Luck

Alexandre

Thomas Richter · September 20th, 2006, 12:10 AM

Hi Wayne,

I compared my FX1 footage with your adapter footage. The per pixel noise of the FX1 is obviously higher than any recent 1/3" SD camcorder. However, John Beale has shown somewhere in this forum how a downrezzed FX1 can almost beat the VX2100 at low light.

The great thing about the SGPro is the camera noise is hidden by the GG grain, which is 1 to 2 Pixels in diametre. So little sharpness is lost (if at all), but camera noise is hidden in a filmlike grain pattern.

By the way, have you got the SGPro picture with the FX1 in a higher res, I would love to put it as a wallpaper on my PC.

Wayne Kinney · September 20th, 2006, 03:07 AM

Thomas,

Interesting stuff. Will be interested to hear more of your findings after you receive your unit.

Here is a higher res version:

http://www.sgpro.co.uk/SGpro_FX1_02.jpg

And also one without FX1 or SLR attached:

http://www.sgpro.co.uk/SGpro_01.jpg

Thomas Richter · September 20th, 2006, 11:36 AM

I am so much looking forward to this.

Thanks for the hi-res version of your product photo - it is now decorating my desktop.

BTW, where do you do your product photography? It just looks awesome.

Wayne Kinney · September 20th, 2006, 12:33 PM

Thanks Thomas,

If I told you the product photos were shot using a £40 automatic digicam (no manual controls), a sheet of black acrylic and 3 60w house bulbs, what would you say?:D

Thomas Richter · September 20th, 2006, 03:18 PM

I would say you make absolutely excellent use of the stuff you already got or can get hold of cheaply. Best example the product photography example you just told us or your Sigma 28mm 1.8 bargain.

Please stay so creative, I think its a great addition to the DVi community.

All the best,

Tom

September 14th, 2006, 04:03 PM	#31
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	If anyone would like me to upload a small clip from the above footage in full HD res, let me know the time index of the clip, and I can upload it. Maybe a 5 second clip from the footage. __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

September 16th, 2006, 11:56 AM	#35
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Thomas, Sure, i'll try and get that uploaded a little later for you. __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

September 17th, 2006, 11:50 AM	#37
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Full Res Clips uploaded! Hi, I've managed to upload a few clips in full resolution MPEG2. Each is around 10MB: http://www.sgpro.co.uk/fullres_pub01.m2v http://www.sgpro.co.uk/fullres_pub02.m2v http://www.sgpro.co.uk/fullres_pub03.m2v http://www.sgpro.co.uk/fullres_pub04.m2v http://www.sgpro.co.uk/fullres_24mm01.m2v http://www.sgpro.co.uk/fullres_50mm01.m2v __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

September 17th, 2006, 03:55 PM	#39
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Thanks Thomas, Only thing that annoyed me about the footage, was I found the FX1 to be very noisey (video noise). I explorered this more after the shoot, and it was the same without the adapter, and even outside so it was not low light. Anyone else found the FX1 to be like this? __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

September 20th, 2006, 03:07 AM	#42
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Thomas, Interesting stuff. Will be interested to hear more of your findings after you receive your unit. Here is a higher res version: http://www.sgpro.co.uk/SGpro_FX1_02.jpg And also one without FX1 or SLR attached: http://www.sgpro.co.uk/SGpro_01.jpg __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

September 16th, 2006, 11:35 AM	#34
Thomas Richter Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 181	Hi Wayne, it would be great if you could upload a 5sec part of the scene where you stopped down the iris in the pub clip. Original MPEG2 would be great, no need to flip for these samples - better to have a feel for how the camera captures the situation and compresses it. And, but that's bonus, a 5 sec part of the Brighton Peer scene - possibly something with the 24mm lens to assess the hotspot/ sharpness situation wide open in broad daylight. Again 5 secs mpeg2 or less. It would be awesome and greatly help to realise the full beauty of your creation. Thanks in advance, Thomas

September 17th, 2006, 10:22 AM	#36
Thomas Richter Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 181	Thanks a lot. I'm so much looking forward to this great stuff. Being a bloody perfectionist I want to count the grain pixels :-) I am convinced there will be few

September 17th, 2006, 02:33 PM	#38
Thomas Richter Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 181	Awesome, and so much material. I am very happy now. To anyone who might read this: You must download the uncompressed material, it's sensational. Can't see any increased compression artifacts with VLC on a 19inch 1440 by 900 LCD screen (viewing distance: 20 cm, compared to my usual FX1 footage). Very sharp - and just like film, no visible grain in the in-focus areas.

September 17th, 2006, 03:55 PM	#40
Alexandre Lucena Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 56	Congats Wayne. I saw the pic of the face and I could almost listen to the man`s thought as it was so isolated from the background. He was thinking `these blokes are screwing PS technik`. Best of Luck Alexandre

September 20th, 2006, 12:10 AM	#41
Thomas Richter Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 181	Hi Wayne, I compared my FX1 footage with your adapter footage. The per pixel noise of the FX1 is obviously higher than any recent 1/3" SD camcorder. However, John Beale has shown somewhere in this forum how a downrezzed FX1 can almost beat the VX2100 at low light. The great thing about the SGPro is the camera noise is hidden by the GG grain, which is 1 to 2 Pixels in diametre. So little sharpness is lost (if at all), but camera noise is hidden in a filmlike grain pattern. By the way, have you got the SGPro picture with the FX1 in a higher res, I would love to put it as a wallpaper on my PC.

September 20th, 2006, 11:36 AM	#43
Thomas Richter Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 181	I am so much looking forward to this. Thanks for the hi-res version of your product photo - it is now decorating my desktop. BTW, where do you do your product photography? It just looks awesome.

September 20th, 2006, 12:33 PM	#44
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Thanks Thomas, If I told you the product photos were shot using a £40 automatic digicam (no manual controls), a sheet of black acrylic and 3 60w house bulbs, what would you say?:D __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

September 20th, 2006, 03:18 PM	#45
Thomas Richter Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 181	I would say you make absolutely excellent use of the stuff you already got or can get hold of cheaply. Best example the product photography example you just told us or your Sigma 28mm 1.8 bargain. Please stay so creative, I think its a great addition to the DVi community. All the best, Tom