Sub-Forum for Redrock M2?

Phil Bloom · October 24th, 2006, 04:10 PM

Wouldn't it be great if somebody with all the main adaptors. SGpro, M2, Brevis and Letus (I know there are others, but these are the ones I am more familiar with!) could shoot the same footage on the same camera so we could compare them all! It's so tricky chosing the right one as so much footage uploaded has been treated in some way (including some of my own!)

Having only had real hands on experience with one (Letus flip) I would love to try more. I am awaiting with excitiment Dennis Wood's Brevis with flip attachment!

Matthew Nayman · October 25th, 2006, 07:11 AM

What's wrong with the M2?

It has one Major unmitigated flaw... it's unrelenting awsomeness!

I love my M2 and would buy it again any day of the week.

Matt

David Delaney · October 25th, 2006, 01:18 PM

The only concern with comparison is who forks out for all the adapters?
IF there was a magazine or something that got from swag, they might be able to test them all if they arrived free of charge and we tested on the exact same camera.

Matthew Nayman · October 25th, 2006, 01:45 PM

The M2 is relativly cheap, the company is profesisonal, their stuff doens't break down and they support it 100%... it is a bright adapter, little light loss and not all that big...

However, the adjusting of the GG back and forth for critical focus is a design flaw, and the 180 image flip is annoying, but helps the imagfe retian brightness.

Phil Bloom · October 30th, 2006, 02:26 PM

it's mirrored as well as flipped isn't it?

How fiddly is the GG critical focus Matthew? Once it is set do you need to change it again if you use a different length lens?

Ben Winter · October 30th, 2006, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Bloom

it's mirrored as well as flipped isn't it?

Negative, Phil. The M2 has no flip function. Just rotate 180 degrees in post.

Matthew Nayman · October 30th, 2006, 07:15 PM

No, just if you swap lens brands...

do a wikipedia search on Flange Focal Length

Ben Winter · October 30th, 2006, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Nayman

No, just if you swap lens brands...

do a wikipedia search on Flange Focal Length

? What should I be getting from this?

Vasi Hasan · November 22nd, 2006, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Kinney

Vasi,

I am based in Brighton, East Sussex, an hour from central London. We could arrange a demo of the SGpro if you wish.

Yes!! When you coming in Wayne? I think I'm ready to buy one...would love to see it before I jump in.

Vasi.

Wayne Kinney · November 22nd, 2006, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vasi Hasan

Yes!! When you coming in Wayne? I think I'm ready to buy one...would love to see it before I jump in.

Vasi.

I will have a unit ready to Demo from 1st Dec.

Let me know...

Wayne Kinney · November 22nd, 2006, 08:05 PM

where are you based in the UK?

Matthew Nayman · November 22nd, 2006, 08:33 PM

Sorry for not elaborating...

The GG must be moved forwards or backwards slightly to compensate for the different Flange Focal Lengths of various lens types... kind of annoying, but I still give the M2 a thumbs up.

Ben Winter · November 22nd, 2006, 11:51 PM

Oh, sorry, thought you said that in response to the image flip comment, which really sent me for a loop...yes, the flange focal length, or depth of focus, of the GG must be compensated for each mount.

Wayne Kinney · November 23rd, 2006, 05:35 AM

This is one area the SGpro has the advantage. Difference in register are machined into the mounts themselves, even the PL and OCT19, so no GG adjustment is needed.

Matthew Nayman · November 23rd, 2006, 05:48 PM

Yeah, we were discussing a solution over at RRmicro forums. We had the nifty notion to create an expanding lewns mount that could slide forwards and backwards to accomidate any FFL and have a wideneough front plate to accomidate any mounting plate...

Nifty

October 24th, 2006, 04:10 PM	#16
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Wouldn't it be great if somebody with all the main adaptors. SGpro, M2, Brevis and Letus (I know there are others, but these are the ones I am more familiar with!) could shoot the same footage on the same camera so we could compare them all! It's so tricky chosing the right one as so much footage uploaded has been treated in some way (including some of my own!) Having only had real hands on experience with one (Letus flip) I would love to try more. I am awaiting with excitiment Dennis Wood's Brevis with flip attachment! __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

October 30th, 2006, 02:26 PM	#20
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	it's mirrored as well as flipped isn't it? How fiddly is the GG critical focus Matthew? Once it is set do you need to change it again if you use a different length lens? __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

November 22nd, 2006, 08:05 PM	#26
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	where are you based in the UK? __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

November 22nd, 2006, 11:51 PM	#28
Ben Winter Trustee Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,675 Images: 1	Oh, sorry, thought you said that in response to the image flip comment, which really sent me for a loop...yes, the flange focal length, or depth of focus, of the GG must be compensated for each mount. __________________ BenWinter.com

November 23rd, 2006, 05:35 AM	#29
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	This is one area the SGpro has the advantage. Difference in register are machined into the mounts themselves, even the PL and OCT19, so no GG adjustment is needed. __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

October 25th, 2006, 07:11 AM	#17
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	What's wrong with the M2? It has one Major unmitigated flaw... it's unrelenting awsomeness! I love my M2 and would buy it again any day of the week. Matt

October 25th, 2006, 01:18 PM	#18
David Delaney Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Niagara Ontario Canada Posts: 1,121	The only concern with comparison is who forks out for all the adapters? IF there was a magazine or something that got from swag, they might be able to test them all if they arrived free of charge and we tested on the exact same camera.

October 25th, 2006, 01:45 PM	#19
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	The M2 is relativly cheap, the company is profesisonal, their stuff doens't break down and they support it 100%... it is a bright adapter, little light loss and not all that big... However, the adjusting of the GG back and forth for critical focus is a design flaw, and the 180 image flip is annoying, but helps the imagfe retian brightness.

October 30th, 2006, 07:15 PM	#22
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	No, just if you swap lens brands... do a wikipedia search on Flange Focal Length

November 22nd, 2006, 08:33 PM	#27
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	Sorry for not elaborating... The GG must be moved forwards or backwards slightly to compensate for the different Flange Focal Lengths of various lens types... kind of annoying, but I still give the M2 a thumbs up.

November 23rd, 2006, 05:48 PM	#30
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	Yeah, we were discussing a solution over at RRmicro forums. We had the nifty notion to create an expanding lewns mount that could slide forwards and backwards to accomidate any FFL and have a wideneough front plate to accomidate any mounting plate... Nifty