Deinterlacing? at DVinfo.net

Michael Dominic · March 19th, 2006, 08:00 AM

What is the best method to deinterlace the frames from 60 fields to 30frames without resolution loss?

Wayne Kinney · March 19th, 2006, 08:02 AM

Magic Bullet is the best deinterlacer i have used, although a little slow to render.

Michael Dominic · March 19th, 2006, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Kinney

Magic Bullet is the best deinterlacer i have used, although a little slow to render.

Can you use that in FCP?

Carl Jakobsson · March 19th, 2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Dominic

Can you use that in FCP?

It seems like Magic Bullet Editors that's available for most NLEs doesn't include the deinterlacer. So the answer is no, you have to buy Magic Bullet Suite for After Effects.

Another favourite is RE:Vision Effects FieldsKit. It has been around for quite a while, and I'm comfortable with it. I haven't tested Magic Bullets deinterlacer so I can't compare them.
http://revisionfx.com/rsfk.htm

Graeme Nattress · March 19th, 2006, 11:17 AM

My Film Effects http://www.nattress.com/Products/fil...ilmeffects.htm has very good de-interlacers and 24p conversion. If you can run FinalTouch, http://www.nattress.com/Products/Fin...SmartDeint.htm my plugin has a superb de-interlacer that is even better!

Graeme

Michael Dominic · March 19th, 2006, 11:32 AM

Opinions.

What do you all think the best one is?

Graeme Nattress · March 19th, 2006, 11:35 AM

There is no "best". Each algorithm will work differently on different footage. You've really got to try them to see.

Graeme

Jim Lafferty · March 19th, 2006, 12:46 PM

What are the best reasonably priced or free tools out there, for the PC?

Carl Jakobsson · March 19th, 2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Lafferty

What are the best reasonably priced or free tools out there, for the PC?

Alparysoft deinterlacer is available for at lot of different NLE:s on pc and produces quite good results. $25

http://www.alparysoft.com/products.php?cid=7

Glenn Thomas · March 19th, 2006, 05:01 PM

DV Film Maker works well. It may not be as good as Magic Bullet, but is apparently 10x faster and includes batch processing. So deinterlacing a whole tape is as easy as just letting it run over night. I've never had a problem with the results I get from it.

Graeme Nattress · March 19th, 2006, 05:23 PM

Practically everything is faster than MB...

Graeme

Robert M Wright · March 19th, 2006, 06:16 PM

This is a link for what is essentially a pretty good, quick primer on deinterlacing:

http://www.100fps.com/

There are a number of methods and filters for deinterlacing, using VirtualDub and Avisynth (VirtualDub and Avisynth are freeware, and the filters are mostly freeware). This is a pretty good, general purpose deinterlacing filter for VirtualDub, and it is free, versatile and fairly simple to use:

http://neuron2.net/smart/smart.html

Michael Dominic · March 20th, 2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Kinney

Magic Bullet is the best deinterlacer i have used, although a little slow to render.

Can that be used in FCP, or just After effects?

Mike Oveson · March 20th, 2006, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Graeme Nattress

Practically everything is faster than MB...

True, almost everything is faster than MB, but I've found the best quality out of MB.

It is a good idea to try several different demos to find what works best for you (and fits in your price range). Like Robert said, VirtualDub has filters that will deinterlace and work well for free stuff. If you want to spend the money, there are many options out there. For a comparison of SOME of the possible solutions out there you might be interested in this article: http://www.dvxuser.com/articles/60i/

Bill McMullen · March 25th, 2006, 02:47 AM

That is a very informative, concise comparison of the plug-ins they used.

Nice one. If you have the time and money, it looks like MB is the move.

March 19th, 2006, 08:00 AM	#1
Michael Dominic Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 52	Deinterlacing? What is the best method to deinterlace the frames from 60 fields to 30frames without resolution loss?

March 19th, 2006, 08:02 AM	#2
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Magic Bullet is the best deinterlacer i have used, although a little slow to render. __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

March 19th, 2006, 11:17 AM	#5
Graeme Nattress RED Problem Solver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,365	My Film Effects http://www.nattress.com/Products/fil...ilmeffects.htm has very good de-interlacers and 24p conversion. If you can run FinalTouch, http://www.nattress.com/Products/Fin...SmartDeint.htm my plugin has a superb de-interlacer that is even better! Graeme __________________ www.nattress.com - filters for FCP

March 19th, 2006, 11:32 AM	#6
Michael Dominic Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 52	Opinions. What do you all think the best one is? Last edited by Michael Dominic; March 19th, 2006 at 01:06 PM.

March 19th, 2006, 11:35 AM	#7
Graeme Nattress RED Problem Solver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,365	There is no "best". Each algorithm will work differently on different footage. You've really got to try them to see. Graeme __________________ www.nattress.com - filters for FCP

March 19th, 2006, 12:46 PM	#8
Jim Lafferty Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 636	What are the best reasonably priced or free tools out there, for the PC? __________________ Realism, anyway, is never exactly the same as reality, and in the cinema it is of necessity faked. -- J-L G

March 19th, 2006, 05:01 PM	#10
Glenn Thomas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 320	DV Film Maker works well. It may not be as good as Magic Bullet, but is apparently 10x faster and includes batch processing. So deinterlacing a whole tape is as easy as just letting it run over night. I've never had a problem with the results I get from it.

March 19th, 2006, 05:23 PM	#11
Graeme Nattress RED Problem Solver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,365	Practically everything is faster than MB... Graeme __________________ www.nattress.com - filters for FCP

March 19th, 2006, 06:16 PM	#12
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	This is a link for what is essentially a pretty good, quick primer on deinterlacing: http://www.100fps.com/ There are a number of methods and filters for deinterlacing, using VirtualDub and Avisynth (VirtualDub and Avisynth are freeware, and the filters are mostly freeware). This is a pretty good, general purpose deinterlacing filter for VirtualDub, and it is free, versatile and fairly simple to use: http://neuron2.net/smart/smart.html

March 25th, 2006, 02:47 AM	#15
Bill McMullen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 31	Thanks for that link That is a very informative, concise comparison of the plug-ins they used. Nice one. If you have the time and money, it looks like MB is the move.