New SG35 DVX Grabs at DVinfo.net

Daniel Morgan · February 12th, 2006, 04:26 PM

Dean Harrington · February 12th, 2006, 06:13 PM

Question though - The focal length seemed tight on those close-ups with the hands. What was your distance from the subject?

Aaron Koolen · February 12th, 2006, 06:15 PM

Is there a site for the SG35?

Wayne Kinney · February 12th, 2006, 06:18 PM

Thanks for posting the grabs, Dan. Look forward to some footage.

Link is in my sig, Aaron.

Aaron Koolen · February 12th, 2006, 06:27 PM

Thanks Wayne. Man I want someone to do a shootout of all these devices!

Dennis Hingsberg · February 12th, 2006, 06:42 PM

I thought this was the home page for the G35 and is what the actual device looks like? http://www.cinemek.com

Daniel - can you post full resolution pictures ie. 720x480? I want to see the full rez. Great shots!

What lens used, f-stop on the lens, how did you find following focus on moving subjects?

Cheers!

Aaron Koolen · February 12th, 2006, 06:57 PM

Dennis, that's the G35, not SG35.

Daniel, how have you found the SG35 overall? i.e.

Light loss?
Can you avoid vignetting (The samples from the page don't show any I can see)
How do you find the sharpness from edge to edge? Good?

Cheers
Aaron

Daniel Morgan · February 13th, 2006, 02:58 AM

I'll post a more in depth review soon, along with some full resolution colour corrected footage.

The tight shots were filmed using a 70-205 macro f3.5 Vivitar lens (£15 off ebay) it was an absolute stunner. Most of the other footage was shot using a 50mm f1.4 and a 28mm f2.8. I bought a canon 135 f2.5 which ended up being overshadowed by the vivitar.

Yasser Kassana · February 13th, 2006, 03:55 AM

I think you need the change the name. Call it the K35.

Wayne Kinney · February 13th, 2006, 05:53 AM

Nice one Yas, Kinney35.

SG originally came from the words 'Spinning Glass'. I guess now the adapter ships with a better material for its GG, its time to change the name, eh?

Ben Winter · February 13th, 2006, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Morgan

The tight shots were filmed using a 70-205 macro f3.5 Vivitar lens

That's the zoom lens I own! I love it. Don't use it much, but when I do...very happy with it.

Eniola Akintoye · February 13th, 2006, 12:36 PM

Absolutely sweet. I definitely for sure will like to see a raw footage and the color corrected footge.

Great shots Daniel, what was your light setup for the indoor shots?

That's absolutely filmic.

Daniel Morgan · February 13th, 2006, 04:32 PM

Aaron - Light loss really wasnt an issue throughout the whole shoot. The 50mm f1.4 was bright enough and the variable speed of the rotating GG handled the low light brilliantly. The lighting setup was generally standard 3 point using a redhead and 2 meisers. The SG35 responded nicely to harsh key lights so we messed about with that a bit.

The main issues were practicalities - It took longer to setup each shot with the gg needing to be re-focused after most moves. You have to be very careful to frame up the image on the GG correctly. Wayne has offered to update my SG with a better base plate which is definetly needed to align the DVX up correctly with the GG. It annoyed me a little because the SG and the DVX felt like two rather delicate devices rather than one solid unit. A decent mount - like the sliding plate I chose not to buy (skint!) will definetly help here. I think that most mistakes will come from neglegence on the part of the crew not the equipment. There are a few shots which piss me off because we didnt spin the glass fast enougth and you can see the grain etc.

I think the image quality of the SG35 is absolutely brilliant, I fell in love every time I checked the monitor. It's just the mount that needs refining. Although the use of the adapter slowed up the production - it also made it far more interesting and fun for me and the DOP. We learnt a decent amount about lenses etc.

Wayne Kinney · February 13th, 2006, 04:59 PM

Thanks for your very informative review, Daniel.

I agree with you on the support though, Dan. Although the sliding plate really does help, which is now standard on the unit anyway. A few changes made since your unit, and also from suggestions from Nick Bartleet, who will be posting FX-1 footage shortly, is the use of shims to adjust camera height instead of the 4 bolts, and also a solid connection bewteen the camcorders thread and the rear of the SG. Hopefully we can meet up again like you said to make the changes to your unit and make it the best it can be!

Tomas Chinchilla · February 13th, 2006, 05:55 PM

Hey Wayne, I also have an FX1 and am pretty interested on your adapter, how would you say it compares to the Letus35a?

Sent you an email earlier today!

Also from your site I can't seem to be able to see the FX1 footage, both my MAC and PC's browsers freeze while trying. Can you post a direct link to it here?

February 12th, 2006, 04:26 PM	#1
Daniel Morgan Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 27	New SG35 DVX Grabs Hello all. Here are some grabs fresh from the digitising suite in university. I chose to pimp my DVX with Wayne's SG35 instead of a DVCPRO 615. http://www.mediafree.co.uk/major/fall.jpg http://www.mediafree.co.uk/major/behindbooks.jpg http://www.mediafree.co.uk/major/car-first-day.jpg http://www.mediafree.co.uk/major/cylcing1.jpg http://www.mediafree.co.uk/major/jeff.jpg http://www.mediafree.co.uk/major/paintfg.jpg http://www.mediafree.co.uk/major/planewindow.jpg http://www.mediafree.co.uk/major/superfg.jpg http://www.mediafree.co.uk/major/underpass1.jpg Dan.

February 12th, 2006, 06:13 PM	#2
Dean Harrington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 898	Nice Dan ..... Question though - The focal length seemed tight on those close-ups with the hands. What was your distance from the subject?

February 12th, 2006, 06:15 PM	#3
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Is there a site for the SG35? __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

February 12th, 2006, 06:18 PM	#4
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Thanks for posting the grabs, Dan. Look forward to some footage. Link is in my sig, Aaron. __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

February 12th, 2006, 06:27 PM	#5
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Thanks Wayne. Man I want someone to do a shootout of all these devices! __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

February 12th, 2006, 06:42 PM	#6
Dennis Hingsberg Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,055	I thought this was the home page for the G35 and is what the actual device looks like? http://www.cinemek.com Daniel - can you post full resolution pictures ie. 720x480? I want to see the full rez. Great shots! What lens used, f-stop on the lens, how did you find following focus on moving subjects? Cheers! __________________ Blog: www.hingsberg.com Ultimate Exposure Guides for FS5/F7S/F5/F55

February 12th, 2006, 06:57 PM	#7
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Dennis, that's the G35, not SG35. Daniel, how have you found the SG35 overall? i.e. Light loss? Can you avoid vignetting (The samples from the page don't show any I can see) How do you find the sharpness from edge to edge? Good? Cheers Aaron __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

February 13th, 2006, 02:58 AM	#8
Daniel Morgan Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 27	I'll post a more in depth review soon, along with some full resolution colour corrected footage. The tight shots were filmed using a 70-205 macro f3.5 Vivitar lens (£15 off ebay) it was an absolute stunner. Most of the other footage was shot using a 50mm f1.4 and a 28mm f2.8. I bought a canon 135 f2.5 which ended up being overshadowed by the vivitar.

February 13th, 2006, 03:55 AM	#9
Yasser Kassana Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 223	I think you need the change the name. Call it the K35.

February 13th, 2006, 05:53 AM	#10
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Nice one Yas, Kinney35. SG originally came from the words 'Spinning Glass'. I guess now the adapter ships with a better material for its GG, its time to change the name, eh? __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

February 13th, 2006, 12:36 PM	#12
Eniola Akintoye Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Duluth GA Posts: 238	Absolutely sweet. I definitely for sure will like to see a raw footage and the color corrected footge. Great shots Daniel, what was your light setup for the indoor shots? That's absolutely filmic.

February 13th, 2006, 04:32 PM	#13
Daniel Morgan Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 27	Aaron - Light loss really wasnt an issue throughout the whole shoot. The 50mm f1.4 was bright enough and the variable speed of the rotating GG handled the low light brilliantly. The lighting setup was generally standard 3 point using a redhead and 2 meisers. The SG35 responded nicely to harsh key lights so we messed about with that a bit. The main issues were practicalities - It took longer to setup each shot with the gg needing to be re-focused after most moves. You have to be very careful to frame up the image on the GG correctly. Wayne has offered to update my SG with a better base plate which is definetly needed to align the DVX up correctly with the GG. It annoyed me a little because the SG and the DVX felt like two rather delicate devices rather than one solid unit. A decent mount - like the sliding plate I chose not to buy (skint!) will definetly help here. I think that most mistakes will come from neglegence on the part of the crew not the equipment. There are a few shots which piss me off because we didnt spin the glass fast enougth and you can see the grain etc. I think the image quality of the SG35 is absolutely brilliant, I fell in love every time I checked the monitor. It's just the mount that needs refining. Although the use of the adapter slowed up the production - it also made it far more interesting and fun for me and the DOP. We learnt a decent amount about lenses etc.

February 13th, 2006, 04:59 PM	#14
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Thanks for your very informative review, Daniel. I agree with you on the support though, Dan. Although the sliding plate really does help, which is now standard on the unit anyway. A few changes made since your unit, and also from suggestions from Nick Bartleet, who will be posting FX-1 footage shortly, is the use of shims to adjust camera height instead of the 4 bolts, and also a solid connection bewteen the camcorders thread and the rear of the SG. Hopefully we can meet up again like you said to make the changes to your unit and make it the best it can be! __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

February 13th, 2006, 05:55 PM	#15
Tomas Chinchilla Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 212 Images: 8	Hey Wayne, I also have an FX1 and am pretty interested on your adapter, how would you say it compares to the Letus35a? Sent you an email earlier today! Also from your site I can't seem to be able to see the FX1 footage, both my MAC and PC's browsers freeze while trying. Can you post a direct link to it here?