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Jonas Gramming · January 12th, 2006, 10:32 AM

Thanks to the help from some of you guys here on this
great forum I´ve maneged to complete my 35mm apparatus.

With some modifications on the apparatus since my last post
(a plano convex lens) I´m finally satisfied with the imige results.

Here´s a test shoot with the new DVX100BE and my apparatus.
You might notice some flicker in the imiges but it´s due to the CD
spinners lack of battery, so never mind that.

http://w1.325.telia.com/~u32512721/DVX100.wmv

I also have a picture of the apparatus:

http://w1.325.telia.com/~u32512721/DVX.jpg

I´m gonna build a new one that looks a bit nicer though :)
I just wanted to thank you all for the help, especially Wayne Kinney.

So long!

Wayne Kinney · January 12th, 2006, 11:20 AM

Jonas,

Results are much better, arn't they? I think your next step is to improve on your ground glass as i think the footage is a little soft. So your using a sandpapered CD and CD motor?

Jonas Gramming · January 12th, 2006, 11:45 AM

that´s right. any ideas on how to make it better?

Carl Jakobsson · January 12th, 2006, 11:51 AM

Hi!

Since you also are using a cd-spinner (the "classic approach"..) and live in Sweden like me, what plano convex lens (brand/model) do you use and where did you buy it? I feel that it's the only thing that my setup lacks.

When it comes to softness, cd-spinners are soft, but I've noticed differences between different makes. Anyway, I like it soft!

I've had similar problems with bad batteries, a virtual dub plugin called MSU Deflicker, http://www.compression.ru/video/deflicker/index_en.html , saved me! It's the best deflicker I've ever tried.

Jonas Gramming · January 12th, 2006, 12:17 PM

I ordered my lens from anchor optics webbsite, it was delivered in perfect condition one week after, price only 250 SPÄNN inkl shipment.

http://www.anchoroptics.com/catalog/product.cfm?id=254

I was not sure excactly wish lens to get so I took a chance, since it wasn´t to expensive after all.

I use a plano convex 60 mm dia with 63 mm focal length and it works great.
I think its good to get a lens with anti-reflection coating, those are marked with "CTD".

Good luck!

Wayne Kinney · January 12th, 2006, 12:48 PM

Jonas,
sticking to the cd design will limit the ways in which to make your ground glass.

Some ways I tried many moons ago with my old cd spinner prototype where:

Glass Frost spray like here: http://www.plasti-kote.co.uk/Site/pr...?PRODUCT_ID=14

This gives an even frosted surface but suffers from a little bit more light loss.

Others have used the frosted stick on window film to like here:

http://www.keylinegraphix.co.uk/etched.html#prices

Carl Jakobsson · January 12th, 2006, 03:07 PM

Two more questions after having a closer look.

First, where did you find that plastic case? I've looked at various electronic stores like Elfa, but haven't found a suitable one. What are the measures?

Second, at the end of the clip, I see some purple "bleeding" at the edges of the caravan. Is it because of the compression, or the lens?

Jonas Gramming · January 12th, 2006, 03:25 PM

What you need to get is an "apparatlåda", do a search on the net and i think you will find some places that sell this in your area. I bought mine at:

http://www.electrokit.se/index.php

It so happend that they have a small store in Malmö, but i think you could
by over the net as well.
I´m sorry but I can´t remember the exact measurements right now (the box is at work) but I`ll give them to you tomorrow!

January 12th, 2006, 10:32 AM	#1
Jonas Gramming New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 12	well well, thanks everyone! Thanks to the help from some of you guys here on this great forum I´ve maneged to complete my 35mm apparatus. With some modifications on the apparatus since my last post (a plano convex lens) I´m finally satisfied with the imige results. Here´s a test shoot with the new DVX100BE and my apparatus. You might notice some flicker in the imiges but it´s due to the CD spinners lack of battery, so never mind that. http://w1.325.telia.com/~u32512721/DVX100.wmv I also have a picture of the apparatus: http://w1.325.telia.com/~u32512721/DVX.jpg I´m gonna build a new one that looks a bit nicer though :) I just wanted to thank you all for the help, especially Wayne Kinney. So long!

January 12th, 2006, 11:20 AM	#2
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Jonas, Results are much better, arn't they? I think your next step is to improve on your ground glass as i think the footage is a little soft. So your using a sandpapered CD and CD motor? __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

January 12th, 2006, 11:45 AM	#3
Jonas Gramming New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 12	yes that´s right. any ideas on how to make it better?

January 12th, 2006, 12:17 PM	#5
Jonas Gramming New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 12	Hi Carl! I ordered my lens from anchor optics webbsite, it was delivered in perfect condition one week after, price only 250 SPÄNN inkl shipment. http://www.anchoroptics.com/catalog/product.cfm?id=254 I was not sure excactly wish lens to get so I took a chance, since it wasn´t to expensive after all. I use a plano convex 60 mm dia with 63 mm focal length and it works great. I think its good to get a lens with anti-reflection coating, those are marked with "CTD". Good luck!

January 12th, 2006, 12:48 PM	#6
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Jonas, sticking to the cd design will limit the ways in which to make your ground glass. Some ways I tried many moons ago with my old cd spinner prototype where: Glass Frost spray like here: http://www.plasti-kote.co.uk/Site/pr...?PRODUCT_ID=14 This gives an even frosted surface but suffers from a little bit more light loss. Others have used the frosted stick on window film to like here: http://www.keylinegraphix.co.uk/etched.html#prices __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

January 12th, 2006, 11:51 AM	#4
Carl Jakobsson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lund, Sweden Posts: 122	Hi! Since you also are using a cd-spinner (the "classic approach"..) and live in Sweden like me, what plano convex lens (brand/model) do you use and where did you buy it? I feel that it's the only thing that my setup lacks. When it comes to softness, cd-spinners are soft, but I've noticed differences between different makes. Anyway, I like it soft! I've had similar problems with bad batteries, a virtual dub plugin called MSU Deflicker, http://www.compression.ru/video/deflicker/index_en.html , saved me! It's the best deflicker I've ever tried.

January 12th, 2006, 03:07 PM	#7
Carl Jakobsson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lund, Sweden Posts: 122	Two more questions after having a closer look. First, where did you find that plastic case? I've looked at various electronic stores like Elfa, but haven't found a suitable one. What are the measures? Second, at the end of the clip, I see some purple "bleeding" at the edges of the caravan. Is it because of the compression, or the lens?

January 12th, 2006, 03:25 PM	#8
Jonas Gramming New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 12	Carl What you need to get is an "apparatlåda", do a search on the net and i think you will find some places that sell this in your area. I bought mine at: http://www.electrokit.se/index.php It so happend that they have a small store in Malmö, but i think you could by over the net as well. I´m sorry but I can´t remember the exact measurements right now (the box is at work) but I`ll give them to you tomorrow!