mini 35 adapter for canon xl1 at DVinfo.net

David Slingerland · December 9th, 2002, 09:56 AM

Hello has anybody some shareable experiences with the 35 mini on a canon xl1?. I will be testing one shortly and would like to know what i should be aware of and or if it really was an improvement compared to the canon without.. Also what kind of lenses did you use? Is it worth the money? What brings out the best?
thanks
D.

Paul Sedillo · December 9th, 2002, 10:50 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Slingerland : Hello has anybody some shareable experiences with the 35 mini on a canon xl1?. I will be testing one shortly and would like to know what i should be aware of and or if it really was an improvement compared to the canon without.. Also what kind of lenses did you use? Is it worth the money? What brings out the best?
thanks
D. -->>>

If you do a search on here for the Mini 35 adapter (Technik), you will find several discussions about it. Listed below is a link that will give you several threads to look at:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/search.ph...der=descending

As for the lens that are used, it depends on what is in you budget. Zeiss lens are at the top of the pecking order. You can also get a Nikon mount for the adapter.

Let us know how your testing turns out.

Rob Lohman · December 9th, 2002, 11:48 AM

Since we are in the same country I am wondering if you are buying
one or renting. If renting, where did you find one? I'd love to try
out one myself sometime!

Thanks!

David Slingerland · December 10th, 2002, 05:05 AM

Rob you can rent one at holland equipment in Amsterdam.. everybody thanks i will look at the links... and as soon as results come up will give you info.

Rob Lohman · December 10th, 2002, 09:19 AM

Thanks very much for that information! Do you know if they have
a website? Thanks again!

David Slingerland · December 10th, 2002, 06:32 PM

i think you can find them at www.camerarentles.com (google =holland equipment will also bring out there adress)

Barend Onneweer · December 12th, 2002, 09:13 AM

The website adress is www.hollandequipment.nl, it's around 150 Euro/day for the rent of the Mini35 if I remember correctly, and you'll have to rent lenses. I think a zeiss 10-100 is around 80 euro/day.

Bar3nd

Bryan Johannes Onel · December 12th, 2002, 11:29 AM

As far as i can remember they only rent out the Mini35 adapter at holland equipment. URL : http:\\www.hollandequipment.nl .
Just give them a call, I'm pretty sure you could go over and try it out. If your going there give me a ring or something because I'd like to check it out too ;)

Barbara Lowry · December 12th, 2002, 12:33 PM

Information about the Mini35 Digital adapter can be found at http://www.mini35.de, and http://www.zgc.com.

Anyone out of the USA can contact info@pstechnik.de to find out the closest rental facility.

Cheers,

Barbara Lowry · December 12th, 2002, 12:50 PM

Experiences with the Mini35 Digital adapter - yes!
We -- ZGC -- are the North American distributor for the Mini35.

My favorite story to date is from this past November. Jeff Giberti of Vermont used the adapter with the Canon XL1 to shoot TV spots for one of 3 candidates running for governor. Post production saw the footage and couldn't figure out how he captured such great stuff without using a film camera. He told them. Later on, PBS aired a show that included TV spots of all 3 candidates. Shown together, it was blantantly obvious which spots looked the best and his candidate initially got flack for spending public money for expensive film stock to look better than his competition! Of course, when it was explained, his campaign came across as very smart and I'm sure Jim came out looking like a hero.

We do have a test footage CD available for the asking. Just contact me or Chris Brnic (chris@zgc.com) or Mizell Wilson (mizell@zgc.com) of ZGC to get one sent to you.

Rob Lohman · December 13th, 2002, 05:06 AM

Bryan,

Actually both URL's point to the same company. Heh.

I'm thinking about renting one somewhere around march
next year or something. I'll let you know!

Bryan Johannes Onel · December 13th, 2002, 05:10 AM

Whoops, didn't see Barend's his post. I responded to SlingerLand who gave the link to www.camerarentals.com
Only human :-)

David Slingerland · December 14th, 2002, 10:09 AM

thanks everybody , any suggestions on lenses i should rent, focal lenght, with the adapter to get a good impression compared to standard lens canon etc.. what make cooke ,Zeis, nikon? Does anybody know where i can get some free charts to do some testing.. on internet or in holland? I have only a back focus chart ...

Charles Papert · December 14th, 2002, 08:14 PM

Zeiss Superspeeds should do you fine. Arguably the best PL mount primes currently available are the Cooke S4's, but you will pay a premium to rent them and considering that they are being degraded through the optics of the Mini 35, it probably isn't worth it. if you want to speed up your shooting, the Arri Variable Primes give a short range of zoom capability, and a set of 3 will cover most desirable focal lengths. A PL mount zoom that would begin to be comparable to the zoom range of a standard video lens (10:1 or 11:1) would be so heavy and bulky that the XL1 would look like an afterthought hanging off the end of it!

Barbara Lowry · December 16th, 2002, 09:31 AM

To Slingerlan:

ZGC has a test chart for $50 that is more accurate than any other on the market. It's the Putora 7A9 chart (fondly known as the "Magic Chart" because of the disappearing concentric circles). Sorry, it's not free but it will serve you well! Compact to carry with you in the field as well.

December 9th, 2002, 09:56 AM	#1
David Slingerland Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soest ,Holland Posts: 307	mini 35 adapter for canon xl1 Hello has anybody some shareable experiences with the 35 mini on a canon xl1?. I will be testing one shortly and would like to know what i should be aware of and or if it really was an improvement compared to the canon without.. Also what kind of lenses did you use? Is it worth the money? What brings out the best? thanks D. __________________ D.Slingerland director/cameraman http://www.slingerlandproductions.nl

December 9th, 2002, 10:50 AM	#2
Paul Sedillo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 607	Re: mini 35 adapter for canon xl1 <<<-- Originally posted by Slingerland : Hello has anybody some shareable experiences with the 35 mini on a canon xl1?. I will be testing one shortly and would like to know what i should be aware of and or if it really was an improvement compared to the canon without.. Also what kind of lenses did you use? Is it worth the money? What brings out the best? thanks D. -->>> If you do a search on here for the Mini 35 adapter (Technik), you will find several discussions about it. Listed below is a link that will give you several threads to look at: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/search.ph...der=descending As for the lens that are used, it depends on what is in you budget. Zeiss lens are at the top of the pecking order. You can also get a Nikon mount for the adapter. Let us know how your testing turns out. __________________ Paul Sedillo Image::Studio http://www.image-studio.com Houston, Texas

December 9th, 2002, 11:48 AM	#3
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Since we are in the same country I am wondering if you are buying one or renting. If renting, where did you find one? I'd love to try out one myself sometime! Thanks! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 10th, 2002, 05:05 AM	#4
David Slingerland Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soest ,Holland Posts: 307	Rob you can rent one at holland equipment in Amsterdam.. everybody thanks i will look at the links... and as soon as results come up will give you info. __________________ D.Slingerland director/cameraman http://www.slingerlandproductions.nl

December 10th, 2002, 09:19 AM	#5
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Thanks very much for that information! Do you know if they have a website? Thanks again! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 10th, 2002, 06:32 PM	#6
David Slingerland Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soest ,Holland Posts: 307	i think you can find them at www.camerarentles.com (google =holland equipment will also bring out there adress) __________________ D.Slingerland director/cameraman http://www.slingerlandproductions.nl

December 12th, 2002, 09:13 AM	#7
Barend Onneweer Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 111	The website adress is www.hollandequipment.nl, it's around 150 Euro/day for the rent of the Mini35 if I remember correctly, and you'll have to rent lenses. I think a zeiss 10-100 is around 80 euro/day. Bar3nd __________________ www.raamw3rk.net digital storytelling and vfx

December 12th, 2002, 11:29 AM	#8
Bryan Johannes Onel Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Amsterdam, The netherlands Posts: 71	As far as i can remember they only rent out the Mini35 adapter at holland equipment. URL : http:\\www.hollandequipment.nl . Just give them a call, I'm pretty sure you could go over and try it out. If your going there give me a ring or something because I'd like to check it out too ;)

December 12th, 2002, 12:33 PM	#9
Barbara Lowry Sponsor: ZGC Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Mountain Lakes, New Jersey Posts: 56	Information about the Mini35 Digital adapter can be found at http://www.mini35.de, and http://www.zgc.com. Anyone out of the USA can contact info@pstechnik.de to find out the closest rental facility. Cheers, __________________ Barbara Lowry ZGC, Inc. Watchdog Sponsor

December 12th, 2002, 12:50 PM	#10
Barbara Lowry Sponsor: ZGC Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Mountain Lakes, New Jersey Posts: 56	Experiences with the Mini35 Digital adapter - yes! We -- ZGC -- are the North American distributor for the Mini35. My favorite story to date is from this past November. Jeff Giberti of Vermont used the adapter with the Canon XL1 to shoot TV spots for one of 3 candidates running for governor. Post production saw the footage and couldn't figure out how he captured such great stuff without using a film camera. He told them. Later on, PBS aired a show that included TV spots of all 3 candidates. Shown together, it was blantantly obvious which spots looked the best and his candidate initially got flack for spending public money for expensive film stock to look better than his competition! Of course, when it was explained, his campaign came across as very smart and I'm sure Jim came out looking like a hero. We do have a test footage CD available for the asking. Just contact me or Chris Brnic (chris@zgc.com) or Mizell Wilson (mizell@zgc.com) of ZGC to get one sent to you. __________________ Barbara Lowry ZGC, Inc. Watchdog Sponsor

December 13th, 2002, 05:06 AM	#11
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Bryan, Actually both URL's point to the same company. Heh. I'm thinking about renting one somewhere around march next year or something. I'll let you know! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 13th, 2002, 05:10 AM	#12
Bryan Johannes Onel Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Amsterdam, The netherlands Posts: 71	Whoops, didn't see Barend's his post. I responded to SlingerLand who gave the link to www.camerarentals.com Only human :-)

December 14th, 2002, 10:09 AM	#13
David Slingerland Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soest ,Holland Posts: 307	thanks everybody , any suggestions on lenses i should rent, focal lenght, with the adapter to get a good impression compared to standard lens canon etc.. what make cooke ,Zeis, nikon? Does anybody know where i can get some free charts to do some testing.. on internet or in holland? I have only a back focus chart ... __________________ D.Slingerland director/cameraman http://www.slingerlandproductions.nl

December 14th, 2002, 08:14 PM	#14
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Zeiss Superspeeds should do you fine. Arguably the best PL mount primes currently available are the Cooke S4's, but you will pay a premium to rent them and considering that they are being degraded through the optics of the Mini 35, it probably isn't worth it. if you want to speed up your shooting, the Arri Variable Primes give a short range of zoom capability, and a set of 3 will cover most desirable focal lengths. A PL mount zoom that would begin to be comparable to the zoom range of a standard video lens (10:1 or 11:1) would be so heavy and bulky that the XL1 would look like an afterthought hanging off the end of it! __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

December 16th, 2002, 09:31 AM	#15
Barbara Lowry Sponsor: ZGC Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Mountain Lakes, New Jersey Posts: 56	Putora 7A9 test chart To Slingerlan: ZGC has a test chart for $50 that is more accurate than any other on the market. It's the Putora 7A9 chart (fondly known as the "Magic Chart" because of the disappearing concentric circles). Sorry, it's not free but it will serve you well! Compact to carry with you in the field as well. __________________ Barbara Lowry ZGC, Inc. Watchdog Sponsor