cheap vibrating GG mechanism

Owen Meek · August 14th, 2005, 11:17 PM

I downloaded firstshot.zip

I can hear the audio but no picture???

I have installed wmp10 and downloaded this 38mb file from a telephone modem so any help will take away a lot of pain. :( please

Quyen Le · August 14th, 2005, 11:32 PM

Owen,

There are 2 parts in the firstshot.zip. 1 is .mpa and 1 is .mpv. The .mpa contains only audio and .mpv contains only video. check the .mpv file in there to see if it can play in wmp10, thanks.

Quyen

Bill Porter · August 15th, 2005, 01:15 AM

If you are totally unable to play it, let me sum it up for you. Quyen's work deserves an audience.

CAUTION - SPOILERS BELOW

Purple flowers in closeup

Focus racks back to purple flowers at medium distance; the flowers that were in closeup are now out of focus.

Focus racks back some more to more purple flowers at long distance, and some trees on the horizon. Flowers that are in foreground and medium range are now out of focus. Looks real nice!

Motor is turned off, and we can see the grain. Motor is turned back on, no grain.

Hope this helps!

;-)

Owen Meek · August 15th, 2005, 02:12 AM

funny, couldnt get that mpv playing on anything but womble mpeg video wizard. from there i rendered an output and all is good now. :)

thanks for the work Quyen Le, very nice demonstration, it was a bit like sex (u know, cause i got modem, harhar harhar har).. i dont mind the look of that grain on a v2k, gives it a bit of a dvx feel idunno, maybe you might consider your next motor attachment to have a variable speed option to get that flavour without being too static if you know what i mean. :)

Bill, i noticed that after reading your post im still learning about all this so it wasnt obvious to me from the getgo what was happeneing? now i know. :)

Quyen Le · August 15th, 2005, 02:23 AM

Owen,

The newer version will be available late this month or next month that has an LED, Variable switch, power plug and will be in black color. When it's available for sale, it's on our website, thanks for your advice anyway.

Quyen

Bill Porter · August 15th, 2005, 05:43 AM

Owen,

You mean my post wasn't totally useless? Curses!!

The funny part is, it was intended as tongue in cheek humor and not to be helpful!

Leo Mandy · August 15th, 2005, 02:32 PM

Hey Quyen,

I got the 1 CC syringes - but the grommets 3/16 X 5/16 X 1/16, they are too big for the syringe and slides up and down too easily. I really thought that with the better syringer, the plastic piece would be bigger too, but I guess just the outside casing.

Does the plastic holder for the white syringe part, press in tightly on the grommets and therefore on the syringe? This would make it alot easier to set the FL because it would stay in one place.

Quyen Le · August 15th, 2005, 03:01 PM

Leo,

Mine stays really tight and won't move even if I don't apply glue. I think you got the wrong size of the grommets. What you can do is apply some glue on the plastic parts to make them thicker, then they will stay in place. After you find a proper focal plane, put some more glue to secure it, hope this helps.

Quyen

Owen Meek · August 16th, 2005, 12:33 AM

Bill, will look forward to your next useless post cause i got some use out of the previous, better luck next time.. :) cheers.

Quyen Le, how much will the variable speed option cost/estimate?

Quyen Le · August 16th, 2005, 01:26 AM

Owen,

We are still searching for nicer looking parts. We don't know if they make nice looking potentiometers with knobs at low wattage in the range of 0-50 ohm or 0-100 ohm. We also don't know how much the parts will cost or we have to make an extra mold. I think we will have an answer for this next week, thanks for asking.

Quyen

Giroud Francois · August 18th, 2005, 01:46 AM

For thos who are looking for cheap parts , try:
http://www.goldmine-elec.com
They got pager motor for very cheap.
I just receive mine, (G13566 and G15241) and they are incredibly small.

out of topic: they got another hidden marvel for those interested to build
a teleprompter. Head-up display glass for 10 $. (G13586)
It is a piece of glass, coated for reflecting like a mirror on one side.
The big thing is this is not 2-way mirror (where you loose about 50% of the light). Here it is totally clear. they are cut exactly the right shape for this use.
You would pay hundreth of $ for such thing elsewhere.
nice to build a portable teleprompter with a Pocket PC or Palm gadget.
(there are some readers program like iSilo , able to scroll text on a pocket PC)

I just finished my LED lamp too, i will give you the recipe to build one very easy.

Leo Mandy · August 18th, 2005, 09:10 AM

I am interested in the LED light thing, let me know how you did it.

also, for those interested in page motors, always check charity shops for old pages and mobile phones, usually very cheap.

Quyen Le · August 18th, 2005, 09:57 AM

http://www.nuocsong.com/nhatho/adapter/LED.JPG
This is a very simple design. Hope it helps.

Quyen

Leo Mandy · August 18th, 2005, 10:31 AM

Sorry Quyen,

I meant a full lighting rig, with the LEDs!

Giroud Francois · August 18th, 2005, 10:54 AM

Sorry it is a bit out of topic , but here are the info.
heatsink to glue the LEDs on:
http://www.radianheatsinks.com/standard/hs1591eb.html

Leds (8 x luxeon star white 1 Watt should be enough)
http://www.ledsupply.com/led-catalo...te-luxeons.html
8 Leds are ok to grab a decent picture in a total dark room, but it is not perfect.
If you can , choose 4 white cold LED and 4 whit warm LED.

1 driver for LED (take the DC 700mA dimmable version 3021-D-E-700)
http://www.ledsupply.com/led-drivers-buckpuck.html

If you got some old LCD screen to scap, there are valuable plastic sheet and plexi glass to get from.

Epoxy glue dual-components PATTEX ALU to fix LEDs on Heatsink.
you can use the one for PC (Arctic silver, the glue not the grease ) but it is very expensive
look like this: a dual syringe with mixable resin , containing micronized aluminium
http://www.tedpella.com/14443.jpg
I think PATTEX is german stuff not distributed in USA.
Try LOCTITE Epoxy Adhesive 3805 Steel and Aluminium Epoxy Filler
Before gluing LEDs make sure the polarity of each is disposed in a way that
cabling will by short and easy.

some battery elements Li-ion 3.6V - 2 A (4 are ok)
http://www.batteryspace.com/index.a...TS&Category=739
you can find better , a kit with charger a 8 cell block (16V)
http://www.batteryspace.com/index.a...ROD&ProdID=1287
3.6 li-ion element are nice since the voltage for a led is around 3.4-3.5 Volt.
put 4 leds in serie and 2 series in parallel.

The result is a very light lamp, giving very diffuse light, you can switch on and off without risking a filament break.
People can look at it without being dazzled.
Stay cool enough to stay in the hand (but get hot anyway)
You can choose to mount the leds on a ring around the lens of your camera for MACRO.

Good luck

August 14th, 2005, 11:32 PM	#137
Quyen Le Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 356	Owen, There are 2 parts in the firstshot.zip. 1 is .mpa and 1 is .mpv. The .mpa contains only audio and .mpv contains only video. check the .mpv file in there to see if it can play in wmp10, thanks. Quyen __________________ Affordable Adapter http://www.adapterplace.com

August 15th, 2005, 02:23 AM	#140
Quyen Le Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 356	Owen, The newer version will be available late this month or next month that has an LED, Variable switch, power plug and will be in black color. When it's available for sale, it's on our website, thanks for your advice anyway. Quyen __________________ Affordable Adapter http://www.adapterplace.com

August 15th, 2005, 03:01 PM	#143
Quyen Le Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 356	Leo, Mine stays really tight and won't move even if I don't apply glue. I think you got the wrong size of the grommets. What you can do is apply some glue on the plastic parts to make them thicker, then they will stay in place. After you find a proper focal plane, put some more glue to secure it, hope this helps. Quyen __________________ Affordable Adapter http://www.adapterplace.com

August 16th, 2005, 01:26 AM	#145
Quyen Le Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 356	Owen, We are still searching for nicer looking parts. We don't know if they make nice looking potentiometers with knobs at low wattage in the range of 0-50 ohm or 0-100 ohm. We also don't know how much the parts will cost or we have to make an extra mold. I think we will have an answer for this next week, thanks for asking. Quyen __________________ Affordable Adapter http://www.adapterplace.com

August 18th, 2005, 09:57 AM	#148
Quyen Le Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 356	http://www.nuocsong.com/nhatho/adapter/LED.JPG This is a very simple design. Hope it helps. Quyen __________________ Affordable Adapter http://www.adapterplace.com

August 14th, 2005, 11:17 PM	#136
Owen Meek Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 69	I downloaded firstshot.zip I can hear the audio but no picture??? I have installed wmp10 and downloaded this 38mb file from a telephone modem so any help will take away a lot of pain. :( please

August 15th, 2005, 01:15 AM	#138
Bill Porter Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 751	If you are totally unable to play it, let me sum it up for you. Quyen's work deserves an audience. CAUTION - SPOILERS BELOW Purple flowers in closeup Focus racks back to purple flowers at medium distance; the flowers that were in closeup are now out of focus. Focus racks back some more to more purple flowers at long distance, and some trees on the horizon. Flowers that are in foreground and medium range are now out of focus. Looks real nice! Motor is turned off, and we can see the grain. Motor is turned back on, no grain. Hope this helps! ;-)

August 15th, 2005, 02:12 AM	#139
Owen Meek Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 69	funny, couldnt get that mpv playing on anything but womble mpeg video wizard. from there i rendered an output and all is good now. :) thanks for the work Quyen Le, very nice demonstration, it was a bit like sex (u know, cause i got modem, harhar harhar har).. i dont mind the look of that grain on a v2k, gives it a bit of a dvx feel idunno, maybe you might consider your next motor attachment to have a variable speed option to get that flavour without being too static if you know what i mean. :) Bill, i noticed that after reading your post im still learning about all this so it wasnt obvious to me from the getgo what was happeneing? now i know. :)

August 15th, 2005, 05:43 AM	#141
Bill Porter Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 751	Owen, You mean my post wasn't totally useless? Curses!! The funny part is, it was intended as tongue in cheek humor and not to be helpful!

August 15th, 2005, 02:32 PM	#142
Leo Mandy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 749	Hey Quyen, I got the 1 CC syringes - but the grommets 3/16 X 5/16 X 1/16, they are too big for the syringe and slides up and down too easily. I really thought that with the better syringer, the plastic piece would be bigger too, but I guess just the outside casing. Does the plastic holder for the white syringe part, press in tightly on the grommets and therefore on the syringe? This would make it alot easier to set the FL because it would stay in one place.

August 16th, 2005, 12:33 AM	#144
Owen Meek Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 69	Bill, will look forward to your next useless post cause i got some use out of the previous, better luck next time.. :) cheers. Quyen Le, how much will the variable speed option cost/estimate?

August 18th, 2005, 01:46 AM	#146
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	For thos who are looking for cheap parts , try: http://www.goldmine-elec.com They got pager motor for very cheap. I just receive mine, (G13566 and G15241) and they are incredibly small. out of topic: they got another hidden marvel for those interested to build a teleprompter. Head-up display glass for 10 $. (G13586) It is a piece of glass, coated for reflecting like a mirror on one side. The big thing is this is not 2-way mirror (where you loose about 50% of the light). Here it is totally clear. they are cut exactly the right shape for this use. You would pay hundreth of $ for such thing elsewhere. nice to build a portable teleprompter with a Pocket PC or Palm gadget. (there are some readers program like iSilo , able to scroll text on a pocket PC) I just finished my LED lamp too, i will give you the recipe to build one very easy.

August 18th, 2005, 09:10 AM	#147
Leo Mandy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 749	I am interested in the LED light thing, let me know how you did it. also, for those interested in page motors, always check charity shops for old pages and mobile phones, usually very cheap.

August 18th, 2005, 10:31 AM	#149
Leo Mandy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 749	Sorry Quyen, I meant a full lighting rig, with the LEDs!

August 18th, 2005, 10:54 AM	#150
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	Sorry it is a bit out of topic , but here are the info. heatsink to glue the LEDs on: http://www.radianheatsinks.com/standard/hs1591eb.html Leds (8 x luxeon star white 1 Watt should be enough) http://www.ledsupply.com/led-catalo...te-luxeons.html 8 Leds are ok to grab a decent picture in a total dark room, but it is not perfect. If you can , choose 4 white cold LED and 4 whit warm LED. 1 driver for LED (take the DC 700mA dimmable version 3021-D-E-700) http://www.ledsupply.com/led-drivers-buckpuck.html If you got some old LCD screen to scap, there are valuable plastic sheet and plexi glass to get from. Epoxy glue dual-components PATTEX ALU to fix LEDs on Heatsink. you can use the one for PC (Arctic silver, the glue not the grease ) but it is very expensive look like this: a dual syringe with mixable resin , containing micronized aluminium http://www.tedpella.com/14443.jpg I think PATTEX is german stuff not distributed in USA. Try LOCTITE Epoxy Adhesive 3805 Steel and Aluminium Epoxy Filler Before gluing LEDs make sure the polarity of each is disposed in a way that cabling will by short and easy. some battery elements Li-ion 3.6V - 2 A (4 are ok) http://www.batteryspace.com/index.a...TS&Category=739 you can find better , a kit with charger a 8 cell block (16V) http://www.batteryspace.com/index.a...ROD&ProdID=1287 3.6 li-ion element are nice since the voltage for a led is around 3.4-3.5 Volt. put 4 leds in serie and 2 series in parallel. The result is a very light lamp, giving very diffuse light, you can switch on and off without risking a filament break. People can look at it without being dazzled. Stay cool enough to stay in the hand (but get hot anyway) You can choose to mount the leds on a ring around the lens of your camera for MACRO. Good luck