Finally we did it...

Daves Spi · May 26th, 2005, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oscar Spier

Daves, was that image with the enlargements you posted with an oscillating GG?

Yes, its moving between two points... Unusable, but good for experience...

http://web.datriware.com/files/244_motiontest.avi
http://web.datriware.com/files/245_motiontest.avi

and the best one:
http://web.datriware.com/files/246_motiontest.avi

Daves Spi · May 26th, 2005, 07:54 AM

Motion GG, Primary lens Takumar at 200mm F4, 5PM cloudy
Camera setup : manual Shutter 1/50, manual Focus, Iris Auto, WB Auto

http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p1058.jpg

Dan Diaconu · May 26th, 2005, 08:15 AM

Daves,
I can not say in words how much I like it! You are the first one (I know of) to reproduce the moving Fresnel.
If instead of the "hard mount" you have now you would use some rubber, you might end up with less than linear motion (elliptical) which would be better. At least the movement is PLANE !!!! and this is a huge plus.
Very good.

Daves Spi · May 26th, 2005, 08:21 AM

Thank you... this shots are from old version of mechanism I made last weekend. You know it... its working (some way), but it can not be used :/ because of many problems...

This time we are working on new one, circular, producing less vibration, less noise, certain running... We have first assembly done, but the motor axle is wrong set up and we have some Z axis movement. Hope we fix it soon.

Daves Spi · May 26th, 2005, 04:23 PM

Looks like monolog, but I'm so happy our next motion mechanism is working :)
Hope it will work with GG attached and will be able to post some video...

http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p1059.jpg
http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p1061.jpg

Maybe does not look, but its calibrated so if you hold it in hand, you almost do not feel any vibrations. Also the noise is just the noise of motor...

Oscar Spierenburg · May 26th, 2005, 04:30 PM

I feel like running away when I see that first image, you didn't get injured I hope?
It's very hard to tell from the images what it is, or how it works. Is it noisy?

Dan Diaconu · May 26th, 2005, 05:44 PM

At the beginning there was a dream. It turned into an idea, then the ambition and hard work turned the idea into reality....

Leo Mandy · May 26th, 2005, 07:39 PM

Hey Dan, when you said 'I can not say in words how much I like it! You are the first one (I know of) to reproduce the moving Fresnel.' - do you mean besides yourself? It was a little confusing to me what you meant by that statement! I thought you were using a Beattie/Maxwell focusing screen (or maybe they are the same thing?)

Dan Diaconu · May 26th, 2005, 11:22 PM

Truck=Fresnel (a certain type of car/screen....)
Ford = Beattie /Maxwell (the brand)

Daves Spi · May 27th, 2005, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oscar Spier

I feel like running away when I see that first image, you didn't get injured I hope?
It's very hard to tell from the images what it is, or how it works. Is it noisy?

lol, its true. You can get serious injure if you put you fingers to close...
Its calibrated, so when you hold it in hand, you feel just very small vibrations. The part moving in eccentric circle is very light. Hope with attached GG it will be under 20g. The noise is little bit more then the noise of motor.
In fact we didnt attach GG to it yet, but seems to be working. I will complete it and test it tonight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Diaconu

At the beginning there was a dream. It turned into an idea, then the ambition and hard work turned the idea into reality....

I hope this time we are REALLY there :)

Dan Diaconu · May 27th, 2005, 01:54 AM

Daves,
Please go to your control panel and enable the email, so I can email you from here. Is just difficult to send you messages on your site (and I forgot the password)
BTW, this mechanism... is it cheap on gas? Can you cut trees? (oh well.... you know me.... (;-)<

Daves Spi · May 27th, 2005, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Diaconu

BTW, this mechanism... is it cheap on gas? Can you cut trees? (oh well.... you know me.... (;-)<

Consumption is about 6-12/100 (Volts/km) lol, Well - I do not know If I can cut trees, but grass absolutely (rotf). Who cares... Our first mechanism can be used as vibrator for women, this one maybe end up as grass cutter :))) You know... sometimes you are building something and at the end you will find, you are in fact building something else than you thought it is at the begining :)))

Daves Spi · May 27th, 2005, 02:53 PM

Booooooooring monolog, but exciting footage... Based on someones (thanks Dan) kicking video posted before...

http://test.datriware.com/f.wmv

Dan Diaconu · May 27th, 2005, 03:01 PM

Do not expect anyone to "cheer" you (if you do not share your findings or sell cheap). Mind your own life. You are on the right path.

Daves Spi · May 29th, 2005, 12:55 PM

So... Some footage with new motion system:
http://web.datriware.com/files/258_moviedofmartin.avi

And some midnight footage, as Dan asked for :)
http://web.datriware.com/files/259_nightmotiontest.avi

http://test.datriware.com/1.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/2.jpg
http://test.datriware.com/3.jpg

May 26th, 2005, 07:54 AM	#62
Daves Spi Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Czech republic, Prague Posts: 159	Motion GG, Primary lens Takumar at 200mm F4, 5PM cloudy Camera setup : manual Shutter 1/50, manual Focus, Iris Auto, WB Auto http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p1058.jpg __________________ Daves At the beginning there was an idea, then the ambition came and the idea became to be a dream... The Satisfied Dream => http://film.datriware.com

May 26th, 2005, 08:21 AM	#64
Daves Spi Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Czech republic, Prague Posts: 159	Thank you... this shots are from old version of mechanism I made last weekend. You know it... its working (some way), but it can not be used :/ because of many problems... This time we are working on new one, circular, producing less vibration, less noise, certain running... We have first assembly done, but the motor axle is wrong set up and we have some Z axis movement. Hope we fix it soon. __________________ Daves At the beginning there was an idea, then the ambition came and the idea became to be a dream... The Satisfied Dream => http://film.datriware.com

May 26th, 2005, 04:23 PM	#65
Daves Spi Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Czech republic, Prague Posts: 159	Looks like monolog, but I'm so happy our next motion mechanism is working :) Hope it will work with GG attached and will be able to post some video... http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p1059.jpg http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p1061.jpg Maybe does not look, but its calibrated so if you hold it in hand, you almost do not feel any vibrations. Also the noise is just the noise of motor... __________________ Daves At the beginning there was an idea, then the ambition came and the idea became to be a dream... The Satisfied Dream => http://film.datriware.com

May 27th, 2005, 02:53 PM	#73
Daves Spi Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Czech republic, Prague Posts: 159	Booooooooring monolog, but exciting footage... Based on someones (thanks Dan) kicking video posted before... http://test.datriware.com/f.wmv __________________ Daves At the beginning there was an idea, then the ambition came and the idea became to be a dream... The Satisfied Dream => http://film.datriware.com

May 29th, 2005, 12:55 PM	#75
Daves Spi Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Czech republic, Prague Posts: 159	So... Some footage with new motion system: http://web.datriware.com/files/258_moviedofmartin.avi And some midnight footage, as Dan asked for :) http://web.datriware.com/files/259_nightmotiontest.avi http://test.datriware.com/1.jpg http://test.datriware.com/2.jpg http://test.datriware.com/3.jpg __________________ Daves At the beginning there was an idea, then the ambition came and the idea became to be a dream... The Satisfied Dream => http://film.datriware.com Last edited by Daves Spi; May 29th, 2005 at 03:33 PM.

May 26th, 2005, 08:15 AM	#63
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	Daves, I can not say in words how much I like it! You are the first one (I know of) to reproduce the moving Fresnel. If instead of the "hard mount" you have now you would use some rubber, you might end up with less than linear motion (elliptical) which would be better. At least the movement is PLANE !!!! and this is a huge plus. Very good.

May 26th, 2005, 04:30 PM	#66
Oscar Spierenburg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: (The Netherlands - Belgium) Posts: 735	I feel like running away when I see that first image, you didn't get injured I hope? It's very hard to tell from the images what it is, or how it works. Is it noisy?

May 26th, 2005, 05:44 PM	#67
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	At the beginning there was a dream. It turned into an idea, then the ambition and hard work turned the idea into reality....

May 26th, 2005, 07:39 PM	#68
Leo Mandy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 749	Hey Dan, when you said 'I can not say in words how much I like it! You are the first one (I know of) to reproduce the moving Fresnel.' - do you mean besides yourself? It was a little confusing to me what you meant by that statement! I thought you were using a Beattie/Maxwell focusing screen (or maybe they are the same thing?)

May 26th, 2005, 11:22 PM	#69
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	Truck=Fresnel (a certain type of car/screen....) Ford = Beattie /Maxwell (the brand)

May 27th, 2005, 01:54 AM	#71
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	Daves, Please go to your control panel and enable the email, so I can email you from here. Is just difficult to send you messages on your site (and I forgot the password) BTW, this mechanism... is it cheap on gas? Can you cut trees? (oh well.... you know me.... (;-)<

May 27th, 2005, 03:01 PM	#74
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	Do not expect anyone to "cheer" you (if you do not share your findings or sell cheap). Mind your own life. You are on the right path.