Beattie vs any other focusing screen at DVinfo.net

Daves Spi · February 23rd, 2005, 03:12 AM

Beattie focusing screen or standard focusing screen (Nikon, Pentax, Canon)

Did anyone make some comparison for our DoF things ?

Is someone using standard focusing screen, you can buy as spare part for camera ?

Daves Spi · February 28th, 2005, 04:08 AM

We DID it :)))

http://web.datriware.com/index2.php?...&ses_id_lang=1 - please, visit DIARY section

http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p875.jpg
http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p876.jpg
http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p883.jpg
http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p891.jpg

As you can see, we are capturing full 36mm, so no waste of DOF efect... Also almost zero vignetting, color aberation, good resolution... Little grain is noticeable, but we are going to solve it...

We are using Nikon focusing screen, in future I'll replace it with Beattie and let you know resume :)))

So happy now :)

Daves Spi · February 28th, 2005, 04:40 AM

Full resolution shots (2288x1728 - 1MB)

http://film.datriware.com/IMGA0230.JPG
http://film.datriware.com/IMGA0231.JPG

There is color aberation, but the camera do this even without any adapter... Do not know why... When shooting movie, aberation is less visible...

Steev Dinkins · February 28th, 2005, 05:10 PM

My lighting was really dark, but this gives you some idea of brightness and resolution enhancement with the Beattie.

http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...mm_Still21.jpg
http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...mm_Still22.jpg

Daves Spi · March 1st, 2005, 02:03 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Steev Dinkins : My lighting was really dark, but this gives you some idea of brightness and resolution enhancement with the Beattie.

http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...mm_Still21.jpg
http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...mm_Still22.jpg -->>>

Nice Steev, Thank you...

Justin Burris · March 3rd, 2005, 04:31 AM

Steev,

How much can you stop down on the Beattie before you start to see the grain/fresnel start to show?

Dan Diaconu · March 3rd, 2005, 10:10 AM

Even @ 1.4 you will SEE the grain on the soft/bright areas of the frame:

http://dandiaconu.com/gallery/FIRST-PICTURES/IMGA0176
(nature of the beast)

However, if "what can you get away with" was the question, from 5.6 becomes obvious/annoying (unless the viewers are asleep)

Steev Dinkins · March 3rd, 2005, 11:25 AM

You'll be prone to seeing grain at any time depending on how you shoot. Regarding aperture, it all depends on how much light. This was shot with the aperture almost closed.

http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...mm_Still23.png

A static design is no substitute for a well designed oscillating or spinning device, but you can sure "cheat" with it.

February 23rd, 2005, 03:12 AM	#1
Daves Spi Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Czech republic, Prague Posts: 159	Beattie vs any other focusing screen Beattie focusing screen or standard focusing screen (Nikon, Pentax, Canon) Did anyone make some comparison for our DoF things ? Is someone using standard focusing screen, you can buy as spare part for camera ? __________________ Daves At the beginning there was an idea, then the ambition came and the idea became to be a dream... The Satisfied Dream => http://film.datriware.com

February 28th, 2005, 04:08 AM	#2
Daves Spi Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Czech republic, Prague Posts: 159	We DID it :))) http://web.datriware.com/index2.php?...&ses_id_lang=1 - please, visit DIARY section http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p875.jpg http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p876.jpg http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p883.jpg http://web.datriware.com/gfx_photos/articles/p891.jpg As you can see, we are capturing full 36mm, so no waste of DOF efect... Also almost zero vignetting, color aberation, good resolution... Little grain is noticeable, but we are going to solve it... We are using Nikon focusing screen, in future I'll replace it with Beattie and let you know resume :))) So happy now :) __________________ Daves At the beginning there was an idea, then the ambition came and the idea became to be a dream... The Satisfied Dream => http://film.datriware.com

February 28th, 2005, 04:40 AM	#3
Daves Spi Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Czech republic, Prague Posts: 159	Full resolution shots (2288x1728 - 1MB) http://film.datriware.com/IMGA0230.JPG http://film.datriware.com/IMGA0231.JPG There is color aberation, but the camera do this even without any adapter... Do not know why... When shooting movie, aberation is less visible... __________________ Daves At the beginning there was an idea, then the ambition came and the idea became to be a dream... The Satisfied Dream => http://film.datriware.com

March 1st, 2005, 02:03 AM	#5
Daves Spi Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Czech republic, Prague Posts: 159	<<<-- Originally posted by Steev Dinkins : My lighting was really dark, but this gives you some idea of brightness and resolution enhancement with the Beattie. http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...mm_Still21.jpg http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...mm_Still22.jpg -->>> Nice Steev, Thank you... __________________ Daves At the beginning there was an idea, then the ambition came and the idea became to be a dream... The Satisfied Dream => http://film.datriware.com

February 28th, 2005, 05:10 PM	#4
Steev Dinkins Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 613	My lighting was really dark, but this gives you some idea of brightness and resolution enhancement with the Beattie. http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...mm_Still21.jpg http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...mm_Still22.jpg

March 3rd, 2005, 04:31 AM	#6
Justin Burris Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 54	Steev, How much can you stop down on the Beattie before you start to see the grain/fresnel start to show?

March 3rd, 2005, 10:10 AM	#7
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	Even @ 1.4 you will SEE the grain on the soft/bright areas of the frame: http://dandiaconu.com/gallery/FIRST-PICTURES/IMGA0176 (nature of the beast) However, if "what can you get away with" was the question, from 5.6 becomes obvious/annoying (unless the viewers are asleep)

March 3rd, 2005, 11:25 AM	#8
Steev Dinkins Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 613	You'll be prone to seeing grain at any time depending on how you shoot. Regarding aperture, it all depends on how much light. This was shot with the aperture almost closed. http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...mm_Still23.png A static design is no substitute for a well designed oscillating or spinning device, but you can sure "cheat" with it.