Micro35 (original thread)

Josh Barker · February 1st, 2005, 09:38 PM

I appreciate all of your input. I did not realize it was an Agus35. I also VERY much appreciate the input from Jim, I was actually leaning more towards the Vertical Mount (this will be my first Mini35), yet you have very valid points.

I also realize that I appear to be "Running and Gunning", when really the reality of the it is I would like it ASAP to actually start to build it and get the hang of filming with it. I have a really flexible filming schedule, yet it would be ideal of I could get the hang of it a while before the shoot so that I do not have the 10 people staring at me :-).

Regards,
Josh

Jim Lafferty · February 1st, 2005, 10:50 PM

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when really the reality of the it is I would like it ASAP to actually start to build it and get the hang of filming with it.

My advice to you would be to build a device based around Richard Mellor's "parts list" thread -- it's not the cheapest, but it is the easiest to build, and of a fairly high quality. You could use the glass he suggests, or grind your own with WAO5 and a 49mm UV filter -- which would take some more time, but would have potentially finer grain. When the time comes, if you choose, swap the ground glass out with a micro wax version for an even better image.

All this would mean you could be up and shooting in a couple of weeks, tops -- less than one week if you have the money to have things shipped rapidly.

- jim

James Hurd · February 6th, 2005, 01:25 AM

Site Update!

Well, I've finally come out of the garage from a week of solid progress. I made a huge discovery with the way the adapter mounted on the rails. The height wasn't correct. Now the adapter has been flipped to accommodate the proper rail height. Although, I've got to delay the guide a few more days to update the drawings accordingly.

I've also added a Bogen/Manfortto mount for the rail setup. This should make it nice when dismounting the camera.

I should be finishing up the GG tests tomorrow and should have them posted tomorrow evening.

Here are some pics from the first article of the 'Pre-Assembled' unit.

www.micro35.com/new1.jpg
www.micro35.com/new2.jpg
www.micro35.com/new3.jpg
www.micro35.com/new4.jpg
www.micro35.com/new5.jpg

james

Ivan Hurtado · February 6th, 2005, 10:46 AM

it´s lookin awesome! i can´t wait to put my hands on it! it will be so great improvement for recording anything!

Relax, relax... Im getting anxious!

Craig Bellaire · February 6th, 2005, 10:49 AM

Yes I am also exited, but the pictures are very dark... WHY? Well either you don't want people to see exactly what the device looks like or you think a dark contrast picture looks professional... either way the pictures are way to dark... Sorry

John Sandel · February 6th, 2005, 12:34 PM

Looks good, James.

The height you corrected for---is that for just the DVX, as in your new photos? I see how your gadget adjusts front-to-back, on rails. Have you allowed for various lens-center heights, too?

Specifically, have you designed to accommodate the XL2?

Josh Barker · February 6th, 2005, 12:59 PM

Okay, now I am more confused. I thought since it is moveable (sliding up and down on the rail) it was compatible for most cameras. I have an Sony XL2000 that I would like to use on this adapter.

Regards,
Josh

John Sandel · February 6th, 2005, 01:07 PM

I asked about the XL2 design compatibility because Canon changed their lens-center height a tad from the XL1/s, and the P+S Technik Mini35 folks had to release a kit to mate to it.

I can't see more than front-to-back adjustments in James's design, but suspect these adjustments---on 3 axes: left-to-right, front-to-back & up-&-down---are relatively simple to allow for in manufacture.

Joel Corkin · February 6th, 2005, 03:38 PM

Hi James,

I'd love to see some stills or footage from a normal or wide lens. Could you try to shoot something with such lenses, or do you only have access to that 75-300mm telephoto lens?

James Hurd · February 6th, 2005, 04:12 PM

Joel,
The beginning of the Horse footage (The Statue) used a Sigma 24-70 lens.

THe adapter will work on all the cameras mentioned, it just requires some tweaking on the rail setup. If I can get my hands on another camera (XL2) I'll make sure the rail setup is adjustable for those as well.

Res footage going up tonight...

Filip Kovcin · February 6th, 2005, 04:43 PM

nice!

Joel Aaron · February 6th, 2005, 05:53 PM

<<<-- WHY? Well either you don't want people to see exactly what the device looks like or you think a dark contrast picture looks professional... either way the pictures are way to dark... Sorry -->>>

Or he's hiding subliminal messages in the shadows!

Or his monitor is less contrasty or a lot brighter than yours and they look fine to him. New2 and new3 look fine on my screen. I'm on LCD's which are more contrasty than my old CRT.

Overall looks pretty good to me... we'll know a lot more when a handful of people get them built.

James Hurd · February 6th, 2005, 06:01 PM

http://www.micro35.com/resolution_tests.htm

Kyle Cutshaw · February 6th, 2005, 06:20 PM

the ground glass 40 looked good to me!

Leo Mandy · February 6th, 2005, 06:21 PM

It is a moving GG, I think I see a switch on the back of it in the newest pictures. My guess it is a vibrating head of some kind like a shearers or something, because it looks too narrow to be a CD.

February 6th, 2005, 10:46 AM	#169
Ivan Hurtado Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Granada, Spain Posts: 75	it´s lookin awesome! i can´t wait to put my hands on it! it will be so great improvement for recording anything! Relax, relax... Im getting anxious! __________________ IvI

February 6th, 2005, 10:49 AM	#170
Craig Bellaire Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 422	Dark Pictures Yes I am also exited, but the pictures are very dark... WHY? Well either you don't want people to see exactly what the device looks like or you think a dark contrast picture looks professional... either way the pictures are way to dark... Sorry __________________ Craig Bellaire www.VerticalVideoSolutions.com

February 6th, 2005, 04:43 PM	#176
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	nice! __________________ in kino (sic!) veritas

February 6th, 2005, 05:53 PM	#177
Joel Aaron Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ - USA Posts: 300	Re: Dark Pictures <<<-- WHY? Well either you don't want people to see exactly what the device looks like or you think a dark contrast picture looks professional... either way the pictures are way to dark... Sorry -->>> Or he's hiding subliminal messages in the shadows! Or his monitor is less contrasty or a lot brighter than yours and they look fine to him. New2 and new3 look fine on my screen. I'm on LCD's which are more contrasty than my old CRT. Overall looks pretty good to me... we'll know a lot more when a handful of people get them built.

February 6th, 2005, 06:20 PM	#179
Kyle Cutshaw New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: seymour, tennessee Posts: 21	the ground glass 40 looked good to me! __________________ "Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like unreqited love." -Charlie Brown

February 1st, 2005, 09:38 PM	#166
Josh Barker New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 23	I appreciate all of your input. I did not realize it was an Agus35. I also VERY much appreciate the input from Jim, I was actually leaning more towards the Vertical Mount (this will be my first Mini35), yet you have very valid points. I also realize that I appear to be "Running and Gunning", when really the reality of the it is I would like it ASAP to actually start to build it and get the hang of filming with it. I have a really flexible filming schedule, yet it would be ideal of I could get the hang of it a while before the shoot so that I do not have the 10 people staring at me :-). Regards, Josh

February 6th, 2005, 01:25 AM	#168
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	Site Update! Well, I've finally come out of the garage from a week of solid progress. I made a huge discovery with the way the adapter mounted on the rails. The height wasn't correct. Now the adapter has been flipped to accommodate the proper rail height. Although, I've got to delay the guide a few more days to update the drawings accordingly. I've also added a Bogen/Manfortto mount for the rail setup. This should make it nice when dismounting the camera. I should be finishing up the GG tests tomorrow and should have them posted tomorrow evening. Here are some pics from the first article of the 'Pre-Assembled' unit. www.micro35.com/new1.jpg www.micro35.com/new2.jpg www.micro35.com/new3.jpg www.micro35.com/new4.jpg www.micro35.com/new5.jpg james

February 6th, 2005, 12:34 PM	#171
John Sandel Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: stately Eldora Road Posts: 386	Looks good, James. The height you corrected for---is that for just the DVX, as in your new photos? I see how your gadget adjusts front-to-back, on rails. Have you allowed for various lens-center heights, too? Specifically, have you designed to accommodate the XL2?

February 6th, 2005, 12:59 PM	#172
Josh Barker New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 23	Okay, now I am more confused. I thought since it is moveable (sliding up and down on the rail) it was compatible for most cameras. I have an Sony XL2000 that I would like to use on this adapter. Regards, Josh

February 6th, 2005, 01:07 PM	#173
John Sandel Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: stately Eldora Road Posts: 386	I asked about the XL2 design compatibility because Canon changed their lens-center height a tad from the XL1/s, and the P+S Technik Mini35 folks had to release a kit to mate to it. I can't see more than front-to-back adjustments in James's design, but suspect these adjustments---on 3 axes: left-to-right, front-to-back & up-&-down---are relatively simple to allow for in manufacture.

February 6th, 2005, 03:38 PM	#174
Joel Corkin Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Toronto/L.A. Posts: 47	Hi James, I'd love to see some stills or footage from a normal or wide lens. Could you try to shoot something with such lenses, or do you only have access to that 75-300mm telephoto lens?

February 6th, 2005, 04:12 PM	#175
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	Joel, The beginning of the Horse footage (The Statue) used a Sigma 24-70 lens. THe adapter will work on all the cameras mentioned, it just requires some tweaking on the rail setup. If I can get my hands on another camera (XL2) I'll make sure the rail setup is adjustable for those as well. Res footage going up tonight...

February 6th, 2005, 06:01 PM	#178
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	http://www.micro35.com/resolution_tests.htm

February 6th, 2005, 06:21 PM	#180
Leo Mandy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 749	It is a moving GG, I think I see a switch on the back of it in the newest pictures. My guess it is a vibrating head of some kind like a shearers or something, because it looks too narrow to be a CD.