First test footage: HD with GG orbiter

Daniel Moloko · August 14th, 2004, 02:28 AM

obin, what is the camera you used in this setup?

Rob Hester · August 14th, 2004, 06:32 AM

Since there is such a demand for these two files, why don't we bittorrent them? It will cost Les 0 bandwidth, and everyone (including the non posters) is required to lend a helping hand.

Rob

Obin Olson · August 14th, 2004, 07:23 AM

dvx100 miniDV 3ccd camera Panasonic

the spot looks very nice..when you have moving images the "softness" is much less then a still

Brett Erskine · August 14th, 2004, 09:36 AM

I agree Les. I'll post a rez chart with and without my adapter. I even try and do the same with my friends P+S Technik mini35 because I have a feeling that with the larger image area of my adapter that its going to be a sharper image then even the P+S Technik (which uses a tiny cine sized GG)

-Brett Erskine

Daniel Moloko · August 14th, 2004, 11:44 AM

obin,

what was the HD camera u told that want to test with the brett adaptor?

brett, if you come with a solution for the HD10u that is better than the PS TEKNICK, ... u sure are tha man

ciao

Les Dit · August 14th, 2004, 12:25 PM

Rob,
That sounds good. Ive used bittorrent, but how do I serve a file with it? Also, doesn't it rely on people keeping the file 'On' for the idea to work?
I should have my free bandwidth back on the 16th.

Brett, I agree that a bigger GG could mean a sharper image. The grain, integrated by motion, still disperses and diffuses the light rays, so a bigger GG would possibly minimize that. But we don't know at what resolution that happens at yet. My test shows that my 30mm glass still transfered an HD image. Therefore a DV 720 across image would not loose sharpness, the the frequencies that mine possibly attenuated are not present in a DV web cam sized image.
-Les

<<<-- Originally posted by Rob Hester : Since there is such a demand for these two files, why don't we bittorrent them? It will cost Les 0 bandwidth, and everyone (including the non posters) is required to lend a helping hand.

Rob -->>>

Magnus Andersen · August 14th, 2004, 12:48 PM

Hello all.

Thank you Les Dit for your answers.

What's the name of the virtualdub filter?

About bittorrent:

The bittorrent client Azureus has a built in tracker (from their page: "Azureus has a built in tracker to allow users to share torrents directly, rather than uploading them to an "external" tracker.") The homepage is here: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

Best, Magnus.

Les Dit · August 17th, 2004, 12:28 AM

Virtual dub filter was the one by Giles Mouchard, google it!
-Les

Bill Keen · August 18th, 2004, 12:15 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Ladner : Sigh...

I'm waiting on southern Mississippi to figure out what broadband is, so that I can post some high-rez motion footage, instead of sequential framegrabs.

;-) -->>>

Hey Frank, step up up to northern MS... we have broadband, believe it or not :-)

Frank Ladner · August 18th, 2004, 12:25 PM

Magnus: Is this what you were looking for?
http://www.ifrance.com/freevcr/virtualdub/cnr-en.html

<<<-- Originally posted by Bill Keen :
Hey Frank, step up up to northern MS... we have broadband, believe it or not :-) -->>>

LOL! Well I am glad to know I'm not the only Mississippian on these forums! Water Valley...is that in Yalobusha?

Bill Keen · August 19th, 2004, 11:15 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Ladner :

<<<-- Originally posted by Bill Keen :
Hey Frank, step up up to northern MS... we have broadband, believe it or not :-) -->>>

LOL! Well I am glad to know I'm not the only Mississippian on these forums! Water Valley...is that in Yalobusha? -->>>

yes sir, it is indeed Yalobusha county... small world, eh?

Les Dit · August 25th, 2004, 02:29 AM

I can now email a link to the HD test I did at the begining of this thread, as my bandwidth usage was reset.

Brett, were you going to post a sample as well ?

-Les

Brett Erskine · August 26th, 2004, 05:02 AM

Soon. I've been working too much to be able to work on it lately. I also have another side project in the works. On camera light powered by 200 LED's.

Obin Olson · August 26th, 2004, 08:58 AM

sweet - 200 super bright LEDS?

Les Dit · August 26th, 2004, 11:53 AM

Sounds interesting. One thing I learned though is that LEDs are not as efficient as compact fluorescents, as in lumens per watt.
I think one person here posted a picture of a setup that used a compact fluorescent with a battery powered inverter. A bit bulky. At least the LED light would be compact, and that's important. And they don't break when the lights fall over!
-Les

<<<-- Originally posted by Brett Erskine : Soon. I've been working too much to be able to work on it lately. I also have another side project in the works. On camera light powered by 200 LED's. -->>>

August 14th, 2004, 06:32 AM	#32
Rob Hester Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 113	Since there is such a demand for these two files, why don't we bittorrent them? It will cost Les 0 bandwidth, and everyone (including the non posters) is required to lend a helping hand. Rob __________________ JVC DV3000U - 30P (non-interlaced) capture on a budget - tests@http://robvideo.netfirms.com

August 14th, 2004, 02:28 AM	#31
Daniel Moloko Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 124	obin, what is the camera you used in this setup?

August 14th, 2004, 07:23 AM	#33
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	dvx100 miniDV 3ccd camera Panasonic the spot looks very nice..when you have moving images the "softness" is much less then a still

August 14th, 2004, 09:36 AM	#34
Brett Erskine Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 445	I agree Les. I'll post a rez chart with and without my adapter. I even try and do the same with my friends P+S Technik mini35 because I have a feeling that with the larger image area of my adapter that its going to be a sharper image then even the P+S Technik (which uses a tiny cine sized GG) -Brett Erskine

August 14th, 2004, 11:44 AM	#35
Daniel Moloko Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 124	obin, what was the HD camera u told that want to test with the brett adaptor? brett, if you come with a solution for the HD10u that is better than the PS TEKNICK, ... u sure are tha man ciao

August 14th, 2004, 12:25 PM	#36
Les Dit Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern Cal-ee-for-Ni-ya Posts: 608	Rob, That sounds good. Ive used bittorrent, but how do I serve a file with it? Also, doesn't it rely on people keeping the file 'On' for the idea to work? I should have my free bandwidth back on the 16th. Brett, I agree that a bigger GG could mean a sharper image. The grain, integrated by motion, still disperses and diffuses the light rays, so a bigger GG would possibly minimize that. But we don't know at what resolution that happens at yet. My test shows that my 30mm glass still transfered an HD image. Therefore a DV 720 across image would not loose sharpness, the the frequencies that mine possibly attenuated are not present in a DV web cam sized image. -Les <<<-- Originally posted by Rob Hester : Since there is such a demand for these two files, why don't we bittorrent them? It will cost Les 0 bandwidth, and everyone (including the non posters) is required to lend a helping hand. Rob -->>>

August 14th, 2004, 12:48 PM	#37
Magnus Andersen New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 15	Hello all. Thank you Les Dit for your answers. What's the name of the virtualdub filter? About bittorrent: The bittorrent client Azureus has a built in tracker (from their page: "Azureus has a built in tracker to allow users to share torrents directly, rather than uploading them to an "external" tracker.") The homepage is here: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ Best, Magnus.

August 17th, 2004, 12:28 AM	#38
Les Dit Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern Cal-ee-for-Ni-ya Posts: 608	Virtual dub filter was the one by Giles Mouchard, google it! -Les

August 18th, 2004, 12:15 PM	#39
Bill Keen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Water Valley, MS Posts: 52	<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Ladner : Sigh... I'm waiting on southern Mississippi to figure out what broadband is, so that I can post some high-rez motion footage, instead of sequential framegrabs. ;-) -->>> Hey Frank, step up up to northern MS... we have broadband, believe it or not :-)

August 18th, 2004, 12:25 PM	#40
Frank Ladner Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Poplarville, MS Posts: 453	Magnus: Is this what you were looking for? http://www.ifrance.com/freevcr/virtualdub/cnr-en.html <<<-- Originally posted by Bill Keen : Hey Frank, step up up to northern MS... we have broadband, believe it or not :-) -->>> LOL! Well I am glad to know I'm not the only Mississippian on these forums! Water Valley...is that in Yalobusha?

August 19th, 2004, 11:15 AM	#41
Bill Keen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Water Valley, MS Posts: 52	<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Ladner : <<<-- Originally posted by Bill Keen : Hey Frank, step up up to northern MS... we have broadband, believe it or not :-) -->>> LOL! Well I am glad to know I'm not the only Mississippian on these forums! Water Valley...is that in Yalobusha? -->>> yes sir, it is indeed Yalobusha county... small world, eh?

August 25th, 2004, 02:29 AM	#42
Les Dit Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern Cal-ee-for-Ni-ya Posts: 608	I can now email a link to the HD test I did at the begining of this thread, as my bandwidth usage was reset. Brett, were you going to post a sample as well ? -Les

August 26th, 2004, 05:02 AM	#43
Brett Erskine Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 445	Soon. I've been working too much to be able to work on it lately. I also have another side project in the works. On camera light powered by 200 LED's.

August 26th, 2004, 08:58 AM	#44
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	sweet - 200 super bright LEDS?

August 26th, 2004, 11:53 AM	#45
Les Dit Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern Cal-ee-for-Ni-ya Posts: 608	Sounds interesting. One thing I learned though is that LEDs are not as efficient as compact fluorescents, as in lumens per watt. I think one person here posted a picture of a setup that used a compact fluorescent with a battery powered inverter. A bit bulky. At least the LED light would be compact, and that's important. And they don't break when the lights fall over! -Les <<<-- Originally posted by Brett Erskine : Soon. I've been working too much to be able to work on it lately. I also have another side project in the works. On camera light powered by 200 LED's. -->>>