4:4:4 10bit single CMOS HD project

Filip Kovcin · June 24th, 2004, 04:31 PM

can you guys tell me where in the thread is mentioned the cost of this cute camera?

or if possible, just quote it.
thanks,

filip

Richard Mellor · June 24th, 2004, 07:31 PM

hi rob

A lot of people like the Nikon primes: 24mm 2.0, 35mm 1.4, 50 mm 1.2, 85mm 1.4, 180mm 2.8 I cheaped out and bought some cannon lens for real cheap for the agus 35

Rob Lohman · June 25th, 2004, 01:35 AM

Juan: we are using a Wiki to keep track of project status and
devices and whatnot...

http://www.obscuracam.com/wiki/wiki/

Since it is a Wiki anyone can easily add information / devices
that would be interesting now or in the immediate future.

Juan M. M. Fiebelkorn · June 25th, 2004, 02:14 AM

Thank you very much Rob.

Steve Nordhauser · June 25th, 2004, 05:08 AM

All good people:
I try to separate the sales world from my support of this group. In general, I would like any sales oriented requests to come to me privately.

Since there is a lot of clamor, I will toss out the SI-1300H-CL-S pricing - this is the Micron 1280x720x10bits @ up to 60fps for $2395 minus special offers I have made to this group. This includes the frame grabber, power supply, cables and XCAP-lite software.

Juan:
We do not manufacture sensors, only 'cute cameras'. The engineering costs and pre-production runs on sensors can run millions of $$.

Rob Scott · June 25th, 2004, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Steve Nordhauser wrote:
... 'cute cameras'....

You realize I was joking about the "cute" bit. They are actually very serious looking :-)

I made some progress with the SI1300 carema and EPIX frame grabber SDK last night and this morning: http://www.obscuracam.com/wiki/wiki/...evelopmentBlog. This SDK is pretty badly organized if you ask me, but useful nevertheless. (This does not reflect on Silicon Imaging -- the SDK is a product of EPIX, the maker of the frame grabber card.)

Obin Olson · June 25th, 2004, 12:16 PM

that rocks Rob! don't you just LOVE Xcap?? what an easy to use GUI!!!

NOT

Rob Scott · June 25th, 2004, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Obin Olson wrote:
don't you just LOVE Xcap??

Don't get me started on XCAP ... )8-o

Obin Olson · June 25th, 2004, 04:22 PM

hmm..I think this would work for a camera keypad to control the recording software on the PC..I spoke with them and they said it will work for our camera

http://www.electronickeyboards.com/i...rial%20keypads

Juan M. M. Fiebelkorn · June 25th, 2004, 08:42 PM

here

http://www.commsdesign.com/design_co...cleID=16500263

Rob Lohman · June 26th, 2004, 04:10 AM

Thanks Juan. I'm going to read that shortly.

Obin Olson · June 26th, 2004, 07:55 AM

I found a guy that says he can help design and build a stand alone camera using DSP and FPGA stuff with NO computer..like the Kinetta camera..has has been doing DSP and FPGA for years and really knows that stuff...will keep you posted

Jim Lafferty · June 26th, 2004, 12:51 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : I found a guy that says he can help design and build a stand alone camera using DSP and FPGA stuff with NO computer..like the Kinetta camera..has has been doing DSP and FPGA for years and really knows that stuff...will keep you posted -->>>

Please do!

Rob Scott -- thanks for the wiki update -- it's a fun read so far :D

Eliot Mack · June 26th, 2004, 12:59 PM

Hi all,

I've been reworking the project Wiki at www.obscuracam.com. It's now broken down into a reasonable tree architecture covering the current design focus and future work.

Everything that was in the original Wiki is still there, but moved around into more logical containers. I also put a link to Rob Scott's development blog on the front page as it is really interesting to follow.

I'll spend some time over the next few days culling key pieces from the threads and adding the links to the proper places in the Wiki.

Links that reference technology going directly into the current design can find a home under 'Current Design Focus', and everything else can go into 'Future Design Possibilities'. This is roughly how I've organized incoming ideas in technical projects in the past, and it provides a good first pass filter. Any other methods of organization are welcome as well if they enhance clarity.

Edit: I just read the revised 'Project Overview' link by Wayne and the 2 Robs. Looks great!

Thanks,

Eliot

Rob Lohman · June 26th, 2004, 05:01 PM

Thanks Eliot. Just as a reminder, the wiki is here.

Obin: please do. At least everyone could need a thorough
explenation on things like how fast an FPGA you would need,
which chips would be good/best and at what price. Futher
things of interest or integration with an IDE controller, possible
cameralink interface (easiest I assume) and graphics out
somehow...

June 24th, 2004, 07:31 PM	#437
Richard Mellor Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: cambridge ma Posts: 247	prime lens hi rob A lot of people like the Nikon primes: 24mm 2.0, 35mm 1.4, 50 mm 1.2, 85mm 1.4, 180mm 2.8 I cheaped out and bought some cannon lens for real cheap for the agus 35

June 25th, 2004, 01:35 AM	#438
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Juan: we are using a Wiki to keep track of project status and devices and whatnot... http://www.obscuracam.com/wiki/wiki/ Since it is a Wiki anyone can easily add information / devices that would be interesting now or in the immediate future. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 25th, 2004, 05:08 AM	#440
Steve Nordhauser Silicon Imaging, Inc. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Troy, NY USA Posts: 325	All good people: I try to separate the sales world from my support of this group. In general, I would like any sales oriented requests to come to me privately. Since there is a lot of clamor, I will toss out the SI-1300H-CL-S pricing - this is the Micron 1280x720x10bits @ up to 60fps for $2395 minus special offers I have made to this group. This includes the frame grabber, power supply, cables and XCAP-lite software. Juan: We do not manufacture sensors, only 'cute cameras'. The engineering costs and pre-production runs on sensors can run millions of $$. __________________ Silicon Imaging, Inc. We see the Light! http://www.siliconimaging.com

June 25th, 2004, 08:42 PM	#445
Juan M. M. Fiebelkorn Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Buenos Aires , Argentina Posts: 444	Clear explanation of JPEG2000 here http://www.commsdesign.com/design_co...cleID=16500263

June 26th, 2004, 04:10 AM	#446
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Thanks Juan. I'm going to read that shortly. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 24th, 2004, 04:31 PM	#436
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	can you guys tell me where in the thread is mentioned the cost of this cute camera? or if possible, just quote it. thanks, filip

June 25th, 2004, 02:14 AM	#439
Juan M. M. Fiebelkorn Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Buenos Aires , Argentina Posts: 444	Thank you very much Rob.

June 25th, 2004, 12:16 PM	#442
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	that rocks Rob! don't you just LOVE Xcap?? what an easy to use GUI!!! NOT

June 25th, 2004, 04:22 PM	#444
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	hmm..I think this would work for a camera keypad to control the recording software on the PC..I spoke with them and they said it will work for our camera http://www.electronickeyboards.com/i...rial%20keypads

June 26th, 2004, 07:55 AM	#447
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	I found a guy that says he can help design and build a stand alone camera using DSP and FPGA stuff with NO computer..like the Kinetta camera..has has been doing DSP and FPGA for years and really knows that stuff...will keep you posted

June 26th, 2004, 12:51 PM	#448
Jim Lafferty Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 636	<<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : I found a guy that says he can help design and build a stand alone camera using DSP and FPGA stuff with NO computer..like the Kinetta camera..has has been doing DSP and FPGA for years and really knows that stuff...will keep you posted -->>> Please do! Rob Scott -- thanks for the wiki update -- it's a fun read so far :D __________________ Realism, anyway, is never exactly the same as reality, and in the cinema it is of necessity faked. -- J-L G

June 26th, 2004, 12:59 PM	#449
Eliot Mack Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 37	Wiki re-organization Hi all, I've been reworking the project Wiki at www.obscuracam.com. It's now broken down into a reasonable tree architecture covering the current design focus and future work. Everything that was in the original Wiki is still there, but moved around into more logical containers. I also put a link to Rob Scott's development blog on the front page as it is really interesting to follow. I'll spend some time over the next few days culling key pieces from the threads and adding the links to the proper places in the Wiki. Links that reference technology going directly into the current design can find a home under 'Current Design Focus', and everything else can go into 'Future Design Possibilities'. This is roughly how I've organized incoming ideas in technical projects in the past, and it provides a good first pass filter. Any other methods of organization are welcome as well if they enhance clarity. Edit: I just read the revised 'Project Overview' link by Wayne and the 2 Robs. Looks great! Thanks, Eliot

June 26th, 2004, 05:01 PM	#450
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Thanks Eliot. Just as a reminder, the wiki is here. Obin: please do. At least everyone could need a thorough explenation on things like how fast an FPGA you would need, which chips would be good/best and at what price. Futher things of interest or integration with an IDE controller, possible cameralink interface (easiest I assume) and graphics out somehow... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors