upside down monitor solution

Nicholi Brossia · May 23rd, 2004, 02:52 PM

Unless the DVX is very different than the GL2, you guys are making this a lot more complicated than it really is. The process is actually very easy. All you need is a piece of a thin magnet from either a magnetic business card or a sheet from a craft store.

Open the lcd screen all the way and rotate the lcd to a 45 degree angle.
Wedge the magnet between the lcd hinge and lcd body with the black surface facing the lcd screen. You may have to tilt/swing the lcd in order to get a better angle.
Rock the magnet back and forth and in and out until you notice the screen flip. Take note of this location and keep trying until you get the hang of it. On the GL2, the sweet spot is about half of the depth and closer to the front of the camcorder.

Once you've done it a few times and can consistantly find the sweet spot, cut the magnet down to smaller size that won't be as visible.

David Kelvin · May 23rd, 2004, 04:01 PM

I managed to find the sweet spot on the DVX finally, using one of my little square magnets.

http://www.3dkevlar.com/sweet_spot.jpg

By turning the magnet on its side and pressing it up against the red colored section of the image, right up against the lcd screen with the white side facing the camera, I was able to get the image to flip very reliably, and without distortion. It only works when the lcd is pulled out all the way, and tilted up at a 45 degree angle.

The magnet is about the size of a dime, but is square, and about as thick as 4 or 5 dimes stacked together with a piece of white plastic on one side. Picked it up at Hobby Lobby in a bag of about 10 for $1.47. If anyone's interested, the brand name is simply called "Craft Magnets."

I can take a photo of it working with the magnet later on if needbe, just tied up at the moment.

Joel Corkin · May 23rd, 2004, 06:58 PM

I just sent some photos to Filip. It really should be easy to figure out where the magnet ought to be if you rub a piece of metal lightly around the DVX LCD pivot with the screen open. You could also look at the photos of the GL2 which works on the same principle.

Filip Kovcin · May 23rd, 2004, 07:24 PM

use the following link to my site to resolve the secret position of magnet for your dvx camera. arrows courtesy of joel :)

http://www.astercity.net/~tarasuma/dvx_page.html

enjoy

filip

Filip Kovcin · May 24th, 2004, 06:56 AM

i just updated the above link - now you can CLEARLY see where the magnet is positioned, how it looks, and how it works with DVX.
it really WORKS!!!

dv info net rules!

filip

http://www.astercity.net/~tarasuma/dvx_page.html

Fred Finn · October 11th, 2004, 09:17 AM

Ok I didn't find anything on this, I hope this isn't redundant, I found the switch in the lcd on the GL-1 to flip the image!

On the lcd take the plastic cover off, their are several small screws on the perimeter that will allow this. Then if you look on the inside of the back cover there are two black tabs each with a small aluminum cover. The smaller of the tabs is teh key for the lcd flip switch. On the circuit board of the corresponding point for the protruding tab is the switch to flip the image. It looks like a small rectangular aluminum box with a small black nubbin sticking out of it, yes nubbin. If you press the nubin the image flips.

Along the body of the camera where the lcd rotates is a small groove where the pin which activates the switch slides. The bottom of this groove is angled upward, thereby creating a surface which decreases in depth as you spin the lcd away from you thereby telling the screen to slip when it reaches a certain point.

THe switch can be tricked several ways, the ideal way we be to create a surface in that groove the exact opposite of the oem one. Allowing for the opposite behavior as the current mechanism. (lol i feel like this reads like a tech mannual sorry...)

Jim Lafferty · October 11th, 2004, 11:09 PM

Thanks for the info, Fred! Could you kindly post some pics?

Fred Finn · October 12th, 2004, 08:51 AM

Here are the images the first one is of the cover plate. The arrow is pointing to the mechanism that activates the switch on the circuit board of the lcd. http://www.hazardousproductions.com/...INFO/cover.jpg

The second image http://www.hazardousproductions.com/...dvINFO/pin.jpg shows the circuit board. The red circle is around the actuator that is triggered by the switch on the cover, the arrow is pointing to the pin, that the switch on the cover pushes in thereby flipping the image on the lcd.

I used a small piece of duct tape to hold the pin in.

*edit the links aren't working... but if you copy and paste it, it works.. weirdest thing i've ever seen.

Jim Lafferty · October 13th, 2004, 09:54 PM

Thanks for the info -- now if only I could get the image to flip left-right, I'd be all set!

Fred Finn · October 13th, 2004, 10:10 PM

Is that on the GL-1? I didn't run into any trouble with that. When I flipped it, it wasn't a mirror image. I would guess that if it was you could use the mirror option in the menu?

*edit 10/14
Excellent glad I could help!!

Jim Lafferty · October 14th, 2004, 09:55 AM

Huh, I hadn't thought of that -- I've got Mirror set to "On," should work perfectly with it off. Thanks again!

- jim

Ben Gurvich · October 18th, 2004, 07:37 AM

anyone know if the JVC would use a magnet.

Cant seem to flip it

Cheers

Brad Phillips · March 3rd, 2005, 12:00 AM

Does anyone know how to do this mod on an XL2? or can it be done?

Steev Dinkins · March 3rd, 2005, 02:13 AM

For the XL2, mount the viewer on the opposite side:

http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...Adapter_30.jpg

http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...Adapter_21.jpg

Jeff Phang · October 14th, 2005, 03:13 PM

i hate to bring back such an old thread, but i'm very interested on doing this on a gl1, and the pictures down. Can anyone help?

May 23rd, 2004, 02:52 PM	#46
Nicholi Brossia Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 389	Unless the DVX is very different than the GL2, you guys are making this a lot more complicated than it really is. The process is actually very easy. All you need is a piece of a thin magnet from either a magnetic business card or a sheet from a craft store. Open the lcd screen all the way and rotate the lcd to a 45 degree angle. Wedge the magnet between the lcd hinge and lcd body with the black surface facing the lcd screen. You may have to tilt/swing the lcd in order to get a better angle. Rock the magnet back and forth and in and out until you notice the screen flip. Take note of this location and keep trying until you get the hang of it. On the GL2, the sweet spot is about half of the depth and closer to the front of the camcorder. Once you've done it a few times and can consistantly find the sweet spot, cut the magnet down to smaller size that won't be as visible. __________________ Nicholi Brossia

May 23rd, 2004, 04:01 PM	#47
David Kelvin Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: LA, CA Posts: 33	Thanks, Nicholi I managed to find the sweet spot on the DVX finally, using one of my little square magnets. http://www.3dkevlar.com/sweet_spot.jpg By turning the magnet on its side and pressing it up against the red colored section of the image, right up against the lcd screen with the white side facing the camera, I was able to get the image to flip very reliably, and without distortion. It only works when the lcd is pulled out all the way, and tilted up at a 45 degree angle. The magnet is about the size of a dime, but is square, and about as thick as 4 or 5 dimes stacked together with a piece of white plastic on one side. Picked it up at Hobby Lobby in a bag of about 10 for $1.47. If anyone's interested, the brand name is simply called "Craft Magnets." I can take a photo of it working with the magnet later on if needbe, just tied up at the moment.

May 23rd, 2004, 07:24 PM	#49
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	magnet secret resolved use the following link to my site to resolve the secret position of magnet for your dvx camera. arrows courtesy of joel :) http://www.astercity.net/~tarasuma/dvx_page.html enjoy filip

May 24th, 2004, 06:56 AM	#50
Filip Kovcin Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: warsaw, poland Posts: 440	update i just updated the above link - now you can CLEARLY see where the magnet is positioned, how it looks, and how it works with DVX. it really WORKS!!! dv info net rules! filip http://www.astercity.net/~tarasuma/dvx_page.html

October 11th, 2004, 09:17 AM	#51
Fred Finn Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Jackson, WY Posts: 178	GL-1 FLIP OF THE LCD Ok I didn't find anything on this, I hope this isn't redundant, I found the switch in the lcd on the GL-1 to flip the image! On the lcd take the plastic cover off, their are several small screws on the perimeter that will allow this. Then if you look on the inside of the back cover there are two black tabs each with a small aluminum cover. The smaller of the tabs is teh key for the lcd flip switch. On the circuit board of the corresponding point for the protruding tab is the switch to flip the image. It looks like a small rectangular aluminum box with a small black nubbin sticking out of it, yes nubbin. If you press the nubin the image flips. Along the body of the camera where the lcd rotates is a small groove where the pin which activates the switch slides. The bottom of this groove is angled upward, thereby creating a surface which decreases in depth as you spin the lcd away from you thereby telling the screen to slip when it reaches a certain point. THe switch can be tricked several ways, the ideal way we be to create a surface in that groove the exact opposite of the oem one. Allowing for the opposite behavior as the current mechanism. (lol i feel like this reads like a tech mannual sorry...) __________________ i am the muffin man.

May 23rd, 2004, 06:58 PM	#48
Joel Corkin Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Toronto/L.A. Posts: 47	I just sent some photos to Filip. It really should be easy to figure out where the magnet ought to be if you rub a piece of metal lightly around the DVX LCD pivot with the screen open. You could also look at the photos of the GL2 which works on the same principle.

October 11th, 2004, 11:09 PM	#52
Jim Lafferty Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 636	Thanks for the info, Fred! Could you kindly post some pics? __________________ Realism, anyway, is never exactly the same as reality, and in the cinema it is of necessity faked. -- J-L G

October 12th, 2004, 08:51 AM	#53
Fred Finn Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Jackson, WY Posts: 178	Here are the images the first one is of the cover plate. The arrow is pointing to the mechanism that activates the switch on the circuit board of the lcd. http://www.hazardousproductions.com/...INFO/cover.jpg The second image http://www.hazardousproductions.com/...dvINFO/pin.jpg shows the circuit board. The red circle is around the actuator that is triggered by the switch on the cover, the arrow is pointing to the pin, that the switch on the cover pushes in thereby flipping the image on the lcd. I used a small piece of duct tape to hold the pin in. *edit the links aren't working... but if you copy and paste it, it works.. weirdest thing i've ever seen. __________________ i am the muffin man.

October 13th, 2004, 09:54 PM	#54
Jim Lafferty Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 636	Thanks for the info -- now if only I could get the image to flip left-right, I'd be all set! __________________ Realism, anyway, is never exactly the same as reality, and in the cinema it is of necessity faked. -- J-L G

October 13th, 2004, 10:10 PM	#55
Fred Finn Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Jackson, WY Posts: 178	Is that on the GL-1? I didn't run into any trouble with that. When I flipped it, it wasn't a mirror image. I would guess that if it was you could use the mirror option in the menu? *edit 10/14 Excellent glad I could help!! __________________ i am the muffin man.

October 14th, 2004, 09:55 AM	#56
Jim Lafferty Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 636	Huh, I hadn't thought of that -- I've got Mirror set to "On," should work perfectly with it off. Thanks again! - jim __________________ Realism, anyway, is never exactly the same as reality, and in the cinema it is of necessity faked. -- J-L G

October 18th, 2004, 07:37 AM	#57
Ben Gurvich Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 329	anyone know if the JVC would use a magnet. Cant seem to flip it Cheers

March 3rd, 2005, 12:00 AM	#58
Brad Phillips New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 13	Does anyone know how to do this mod on an XL2? or can it be done? __________________ www.Premisind.com

March 3rd, 2005, 02:13 AM	#59
Steev Dinkins Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 613	XL2 For the XL2, mount the viewer on the opposite side: http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...Adapter_30.jpg http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...Adapter_21.jpg

October 14th, 2005, 03:13 PM	#60
Jeff Phang Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 34	i hate to bring back such an old thread, but i'm very interested on doing this on a gl1, and the pictures down. Can anyone help?