nikon lenses AI-S are good with mini35 ? at DVinfo.net

Daniel Limoges · January 17th, 2004, 03:04 PM

Hi!

I do not know which lenses take for the mini35 !
Nikon AF or older lenses like AI-S ?
What's the difference ? the difference in these 2 models is this only the automatism and the data-processing chip ?
I know that these new technology (af) are deactivate with the use of the mini35 ! so...but the quality between ?

thanks!

Mizell Wilson · January 19th, 2004, 10:33 AM

Daniel,

I can only offer a general comment about the Nikon lenses.

As far as I understand, the physical mount has not changed in decades, so theoretically, any Nikon lens will work.

As you mention, any electronic control of the lens is lost, but most as I understand it have full manual modes as well.

I have yet to see any comments about whether or not any particular Nikon glass is better then others. It all seems to be good. A rule of thumb is just that newer lenses are going to have better coatings i.e. it could very well be that Nikon is using the same glass that they've been using forever, but great strides have been made in the chemicals that are used to coat the lenses. However, as a side note, there's been a lot of talk recently how many DP's are looking for older lenses, coated and non-coated, because of the unique properties they had in flare and such.

One big difference I've seen mentioned between the AF line and the original manual use lenses is that the AF's are not as smooth in their mechanics in manual mode.

Hopefully someone can shed some additional light on your particular questions. You may also want to consider making the post in a more lens focused forum :)

mizell

Steve Cahill · January 19th, 2004, 06:08 PM

I bought recently nikon lenses for the mini35 and have not taken delivery on the mini35 yet . I will share the results. I did purchase manual focus Nikon lens, as I thought the focus was smoother than the AF lens, we will see.

Regards
Steve

Jim Giberti · January 20th, 2004, 09:02 PM

Defintely avoid AF lenses...the focus control is crap for this system. And definitely get the fastest AIs you can, they're not only fast, but the most solid of the Nikon line...the focus is very smooth, the lenses are very solid. My reccomendation for a basic set of Nikon primes is: (I'm going from memory, I'm not in my studio) 24mm 2.0, 35mm 1.4, 50 mm 1.2, 85mm 1.4, 180mm 2.8

Obviously, these are just what I'm using, but I've had great success with them.

Daniel Limoges · January 21st, 2004, 03:15 PM

Somebody want to sell these used lenses to me for... 1800.00$ US

28mm f/2 Nikkor Ai-S
35mm f/1.4 Nikkor Ai-S
50mm f/1.2 Nikkor Ai-S
85mm f/1.4 Nikkor Ai-S

This is too expensive ?

...it said to me that it bought them (brandnew) in 2003 for more 3000.00$us ?

John Jay · January 22nd, 2004, 02:55 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Jim Giberti : My reccomendation for a basic set of Nikon primes is: (I'm going from memory, I'm not in my studio) 24mm 2.0, 35mm 1.4, 50 mm 1.2, 85mm 1.4, 180mm 2.8
-->>>

Jim

35mm f1.4

what are the shallow DOF properties of this super fast wide lens like?

I would love to see an example pic shot via your system if you can spare the time

Jim Giberti · January 22nd, 2004, 05:58 PM

<<Jim

35mm f1.4

what are the shallow DOF properties of this super fast wide lens like?

I would love to see an example pic shot via your system if you can spare the time
>>

The shalow DOF with all these lenses is beautiful, very three dimensional, especially doing rack focus, which is very dable with the still primes and quality of focus on these Nikon AIs. The big 85mm 1.4 is a incredible piece of glass for the money.

I'm just finishing up some last minute promo work for the Chevy Snowbaord Grand Prix, and then I plan on editing the foliage project..I'll definitely post it here for you.

John Jay · January 22nd, 2004, 10:23 PM

I'm lovin it

John Francis · January 28th, 2004, 01:12 PM

Daniel,

I don't think you'll find a better setup for your buck (PS Technik + Nikon)! I have the exact same ones plus 180mm 2.8. But you probably don't need this one to start with. Look for a matte box that will allow you to use these lenses with setp down rings. Good luck with your projects.

Daniel Limoges · January 28th, 2004, 03:11 PM

Thanks John !

I'm happy to learn that! Thank you John for your research ,you is an obliging person and I appreciate it very much!

January 17th, 2004, 03:04 PM	#1
Daniel Limoges Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: quebec canada Posts: 52	nikon lenses AI-S are good with mini35 ? Hi! I do not know which lenses take for the mini35 ! Nikon AF or older lenses like AI-S ? What's the difference ? the difference in these 2 models is this only the automatism and the data-processing chip ? I know that these new technology (af) are deactivate with the use of the mini35 ! so...but the quality between ? thanks!

January 19th, 2004, 10:33 AM	#2
Mizell Wilson Sales: Reflecmedia Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Linden, NJ Posts: 147	Daniel, I can only offer a general comment about the Nikon lenses. As far as I understand, the physical mount has not changed in decades, so theoretically, any Nikon lens will work. As you mention, any electronic control of the lens is lost, but most as I understand it have full manual modes as well. I have yet to see any comments about whether or not any particular Nikon glass is better then others. It all seems to be good. A rule of thumb is just that newer lenses are going to have better coatings i.e. it could very well be that Nikon is using the same glass that they've been using forever, but great strides have been made in the chemicals that are used to coat the lenses. However, as a side note, there's been a lot of talk recently how many DP's are looking for older lenses, coated and non-coated, because of the unique properties they had in flare and such. One big difference I've seen mentioned between the AF line and the original manual use lenses is that the AF's are not as smooth in their mechanics in manual mode. Hopefully someone can shed some additional light on your particular questions. You may also want to consider making the post in a more lens focused forum :) mizell __________________ Posts before Feb 2004 were on behalf of ZGC, afterwards they're all mine!

January 21st, 2004, 03:15 PM	#5
Daniel Limoges Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: quebec canada Posts: 52	... Somebody want to sell these used lenses to me for... 1800.00$ US 28mm f/2 Nikkor Ai-S 35mm f/1.4 Nikkor Ai-S 50mm f/1.2 Nikkor Ai-S 85mm f/1.4 Nikkor Ai-S This is too expensive ? ...it said to me that it bought them (brandnew) in 2003 for more 3000.00$us ?

January 22nd, 2004, 02:55 PM	#6
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	<<<-- Originally posted by Jim Giberti : My reccomendation for a basic set of Nikon primes is: (I'm going from memory, I'm not in my studio) 24mm 2.0, 35mm 1.4, 50 mm 1.2, 85mm 1.4, 180mm 2.8 -->>> Jim 35mm f1.4 what are the shallow DOF properties of this super fast wide lens like? I would love to see an example pic shot via your system if you can spare the time __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

January 22nd, 2004, 10:23 PM	#8
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	I'm lovin it __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

January 19th, 2004, 06:08 PM	#3
Steve Cahill Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 321	I bought recently nikon lenses for the mini35 and have not taken delivery on the mini35 yet . I will share the results. I did purchase manual focus Nikon lens, as I thought the focus was smoother than the AF lens, we will see. Regards Steve

January 20th, 2004, 09:02 PM	#4
Jim Giberti Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bethel, VT Posts: 824	Defintely avoid AF lenses...the focus control is crap for this system. And definitely get the fastest AIs you can, they're not only fast, but the most solid of the Nikon line...the focus is very smooth, the lenses are very solid. My reccomendation for a basic set of Nikon primes is: (I'm going from memory, I'm not in my studio) 24mm 2.0, 35mm 1.4, 50 mm 1.2, 85mm 1.4, 180mm 2.8 Obviously, these are just what I'm using, but I've had great success with them.

January 22nd, 2004, 05:58 PM	#7
Jim Giberti Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bethel, VT Posts: 824	<<Jim 35mm f1.4 what are the shallow DOF properties of this super fast wide lens like? I would love to see an example pic shot via your system if you can spare the time >> The shalow DOF with all these lenses is beautiful, very three dimensional, especially doing rack focus, which is very dable with the still primes and quality of focus on these Nikon AIs. The big 85mm 1.4 is a incredible piece of glass for the money. I'm just finishing up some last minute promo work for the Chevy Snowbaord Grand Prix, and then I plan on editing the foliage project..I'll definitely post it here for you.

January 28th, 2004, 01:12 PM	#9
John Francis Tourist Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 3	Daniel, I don't think you'll find a better setup for your buck (PS Technik + Nikon)! I have the exact same ones plus 180mm 2.8. But you probably don't need this one to start with. Look for a matte box that will allow you to use these lenses with setp down rings. Good luck with your projects.

January 28th, 2004, 03:11 PM	#10
Daniel Limoges Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: quebec canada Posts: 52	thanks Thanks John ! I'm happy to learn that! Thank you John for your research ,you is an obliging person and I appreciate it very much!