Homemade 35mm Adapter

Cody Dulock · January 17th, 2005, 11:59 AM

hey bob i sent you an email with some questions about the mini35 adapter.. did you get it??

Bob Hart · January 17th, 2005, 07:49 PM

Cody. Recieved your email. Am a bit busy sending some bushfire stuff to media. Will respond soon.

Cody Dulock · January 19th, 2005, 12:23 PM

i know agus said somewhere that he has started using a 9volt battery for his mini35...

what are the pros and cons to using higher voltage batteries opposed to lower voltage ones???

Bob Hart · January 20th, 2005, 12:30 AM

Up. - Spins faster enabling higher camcorder shutter speeds - diminishes effect of quality error in groundglass finish.

Down. - Spins faster. - wears out motor faster, more vibation - more noise - battery connection is more prone to failure - hard to fit up in the dark - less common battery.

Jose di Cani · January 20th, 2005, 11:52 AM

where is the link with the tutorials? I am lost in this million-dollar thread. I need shalower DOF now!

thanks

god bless the makers of selfmade adapters. I love you guys/girls..whatever.

James Hurd · January 20th, 2005, 11:55 AM

I'll be sending out an email to everyone on the list in the next couple days.

Thanks!

Cody Dulock · January 20th, 2005, 12:10 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Jose di Cani : where is the link with the tutorials? I am lost in this million-dollar thread. I need shalower DOF now!

thanks

god bless the makers of selfmade adapters. I love you guys/girls..whatever. -->>>

ok heres all of the addresses i have saved so far for reference.

http://ideaspora.net/oldskool/

http://www.dvinfo.net/media/hart/

http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/dof/index.htm

http://www.gamecrafters.com/sillydaddy/Agus35_MarkIII.html

http://www.moorefilms.com/aldu35.htm

http://www.blindcat.de/index.php?page=dv35genglish&title=DV35g%20-%20A%2035m

http://www.de-interlaced.net/mini35/

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30086

Cody Dulock · January 20th, 2005, 02:21 PM

anybody know of local places you can buy fresnel lenses in dfw? or stores in general? like what aisle would they be on??

James Hurd · January 20th, 2005, 02:22 PM

Cody, what kind of camera do you have?

Cody Dulock · January 20th, 2005, 02:43 PM

well im looking for one for my mini35 since they are supposed to be cheap... im just looking for a cheap alternative to get rid of the "halo" bright spot on the GG.

James Hurd · January 20th, 2005, 02:46 PM

You have a mini35? You don't have a camera? I can help you with the halo...

Cody Dulock · January 20th, 2005, 03:22 PM

sorry, im using a panasonic pv-gs50... little consumer camera with 27mm thread size stepped up to 52mm

James Hurd · January 20th, 2005, 03:29 PM

Cool.

Cody Dulock · January 20th, 2005, 04:32 PM

my mini35 setup currently consists of, project box design with rotating GG. miranda mount for lenses. about 8 miranda lenses to choose from. plus a telephoto lens.

i was having a heck of a time getting the cd closer to the lens so the focus would be correct at infinity. i had my cd motor still mounted to the plastic thing that came out of the cd player...i found out my motor was already sandwiched against the wood i had it mounted to. cut a hole out and its just perfect.

i will post some pictures up when its totally finished. i still have to work on the GG, way to grainy. i have barely even tried though... that was a quick job to see if it works.

Bob Hart · May 5th, 2005, 10:42 AM

After the debacle of my Agus which fell and broke the glass disk and prisms,
I needed a gg fairly quickly and decided to try a DVD+D disk. I have plenty
of failed burns so there's plently of disks. I found you can split them.

Once you get the edge joint started, they come apart fairly easily. One face has traces of the burn or guide tracks on it. This is the face you dress. The
plastic seems to be a better material and is quite tough and takes longer
than the glass to dress in a tumbler. It seems to yield a finer finish for
the same grade of grit than glass but the same problems of variable density
flicker found with the CD-R spacers is still there in certain lighting
conditions. In operation the split DVD+R seems to be thinner and lighter,
spins up and shuts down faster and despite being thin, does not seem to move off the focal plane in pans and tilts as one might expect it would.

When mounting the disk to the hub, do not use contact cement. As this stuff
dries, it shrinks and whilst the disk sits flat when the glue is fresh,
after a while it will tilt one way or another and no longer run true. The
best glue remains the water cleanup white silicone bathroom sealer.

The new images at www.dvinfo.net/media/hart are tests from this disk whilst
it was not spinning, plus the very last image off the glass oharadisk. The
filesnames are "cdstrer2.JPG" "cdstrer3.JPG" and "0038b.JPG"

The optical path remains the same as for the oharadisk in the prism version - SLR lens >> groundglass disk >> 2 x 40mm x 40mm x 56mm x 40mm common thickness rightangle prisms in 90 degree opposition >> 7+ Century Optics Achromatic diopter >> camcorder.

May 5th, 2005, 10:42 AM	#1260
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,477	Bob Hart After the debacle of my Agus which fell and broke the glass disk and prisms, I needed a gg fairly quickly and decided to try a DVD+D disk. I have plenty of failed burns so there's plently of disks. I found you can split them. Once you get the edge joint started, they come apart fairly easily. One face has traces of the burn or guide tracks on it. This is the face you dress. The plastic seems to be a better material and is quite tough and takes longer than the glass to dress in a tumbler. It seems to yield a finer finish for the same grade of grit than glass but the same problems of variable density flicker found with the CD-R spacers is still there in certain lighting conditions. In operation the split DVD+R seems to be thinner and lighter, spins up and shuts down faster and despite being thin, does not seem to move off the focal plane in pans and tilts as one might expect it would. When mounting the disk to the hub, do not use contact cement. As this stuff dries, it shrinks and whilst the disk sits flat when the glue is fresh, after a while it will tilt one way or another and no longer run true. The best glue remains the water cleanup white silicone bathroom sealer. The new images at www.dvinfo.net/media/hart are tests from this disk whilst it was not spinning, plus the very last image off the glass oharadisk. The filesnames are "cdstrer2.JPG" "cdstrer3.JPG" and "0038b.JPG" The optical path remains the same as for the oharadisk in the prism version - SLR lens >> groundglass disk >> 2 x 40mm x 40mm x 56mm x 40mm common thickness rightangle prisms in 90 degree opposition >> 7+ Century Optics Achromatic diopter >> camcorder.

January 17th, 2005, 11:59 AM	#1246
Cody Dulock Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: arlington, texas Posts: 420	hey bob i sent you an email with some questions about the mini35 adapter.. did you get it??

January 17th, 2005, 07:49 PM	#1247
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,477	Cody. Recieved your email. Am a bit busy sending some bushfire stuff to media. Will respond soon.

January 19th, 2005, 12:23 PM	#1248
Cody Dulock Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: arlington, texas Posts: 420	i know agus said somewhere that he has started using a 9volt battery for his mini35... what are the pros and cons to using higher voltage batteries opposed to lower voltage ones???

January 20th, 2005, 12:30 AM	#1249
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,477	Up. - Spins faster enabling higher camcorder shutter speeds - diminishes effect of quality error in groundglass finish. Down. - Spins faster. - wears out motor faster, more vibation - more noise - battery connection is more prone to failure - hard to fit up in the dark - less common battery.

January 20th, 2005, 11:52 AM	#1250
Jose di Cani Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Holland, Europe Posts: 214	where is the link with the tutorials? I am lost in this million-dollar thread. I need shalower DOF now! thanks god bless the makers of selfmade adapters. I love you guys/girls..whatever.

January 20th, 2005, 11:55 AM	#1251
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	I'll be sending out an email to everyone on the list in the next couple days. Thanks!

January 20th, 2005, 12:10 PM	#1252
Cody Dulock Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: arlington, texas Posts: 420	<<<-- Originally posted by Jose di Cani : where is the link with the tutorials? I am lost in this million-dollar thread. I need shalower DOF now! thanks god bless the makers of selfmade adapters. I love you guys/girls..whatever. -->>> ok heres all of the addresses i have saved so far for reference. http://ideaspora.net/oldskool/ http://www.dvinfo.net/media/hart/ http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/dof/index.htm http://www.gamecrafters.com/sillydaddy/Agus35_MarkIII.html http://www.moorefilms.com/aldu35.htm http://www.blindcat.de/index.php?page=dv35genglish&title=DV35g%20-%20A%2035m http://www.de-interlaced.net/mini35/ http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30086

January 20th, 2005, 02:21 PM	#1253
Cody Dulock Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: arlington, texas Posts: 420	anybody know of local places you can buy fresnel lenses in dfw? or stores in general? like what aisle would they be on??

January 20th, 2005, 02:22 PM	#1254
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	Cody, what kind of camera do you have?

January 20th, 2005, 02:43 PM	#1255
Cody Dulock Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: arlington, texas Posts: 420	well im looking for one for my mini35 since they are supposed to be cheap... im just looking for a cheap alternative to get rid of the "halo" bright spot on the GG.

January 20th, 2005, 02:46 PM	#1256
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	You have a mini35? You don't have a camera? I can help you with the halo...

January 20th, 2005, 03:22 PM	#1257
Cody Dulock Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: arlington, texas Posts: 420	sorry, im using a panasonic pv-gs50... little consumer camera with 27mm thread size stepped up to 52mm

January 20th, 2005, 03:29 PM	#1258
James Hurd Micro35 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 221	Cool.

January 20th, 2005, 04:32 PM	#1259
Cody Dulock Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: arlington, texas Posts: 420	my mini35 setup currently consists of, project box design with rotating GG. miranda mount for lenses. about 8 miranda lenses to choose from. plus a telephoto lens. i was having a heck of a time getting the cd closer to the lens so the focus would be correct at infinity. i had my cd motor still mounted to the plastic thing that came out of the cd player...i found out my motor was already sandwiched against the wood i had it mounted to. cut a hole out and its just perfect. i will post some pictures up when its totally finished. i still have to work on the GG, way to grainy. i have barely even tried though... that was a quick job to see if it works.