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Doug Lange · May 9th, 2007, 05:47 PM

I am interested in these mic systems. It seems more economical for the quality then buying separate mics. How do they compare to others for the price such as Sennheiser and AT? Being in Alaska, I can't just go to NYC and test them out.

I need a stereo pair, so my thought was to go modular if it is clean enough and then get a good shotgun and hyper for the cost of the capsules.

In other threads, it looks as though people are interested in the Blue Line but usually buy something else. Were buying decisions based on $$$ or that this mic occupies the middle ground that is too expensive for the masses (Rode seems to fill this niche well recently) but not good enough for the big budget buyers?

Thanks

Ty Ford · May 9th, 2007, 09:15 PM

Why do you need a stereo pair?

Regards,

Ty

Doug Lange · May 10th, 2007, 02:54 AM

live music and theatre. Some local venues have unreliable house systems to tap into, so I would prefer to bypass. I've never done M/S, but it has caught my interest. Maybe I should go that route instead of a matched pair.

Most of the time I freelance whatever I have time to do, which doesn't require a stereo recording, just a shotgun or a hyper, which is why I'm interested in the Blue Line.

Jon Goodman · May 10th, 2007, 05:24 AM

I recently bought one with the ck 93 hyper capsule and am quite happy with the sound. It may not be as sensitive as the schoeps, but for the price... it'll do until the inevitable upgrade.
Jon

Ty Ford · May 10th, 2007, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Lange

live music and theatre. Some local venues have unreliable house systems to tap into, so I would prefer to bypass. I've never done M/S, but it has caught my interest. Maybe I should go that route instead of a matched pair.

Most of the time I freelance whatever I have time to do, which doesn't require a stereo recording, just a shotgun or a hyper, which is why I'm interested in the Blue Line.

I use Schoeps supercardioids because their pattern is tight enough to ignore a lot of room sound. The cmc641 is a little expensive, but a little different than most and that difference is worth the price.

The AT 4053a are a 2nd cousin.

Regards,

Ty

Ian Savage · May 10th, 2007, 06:12 AM

The Blueline is a wonderfull system for all manner of recording, certainly for loaction recording I wouldn't dare not have a couple in my kit, buy and you'll be forever glad you have them.

Marco Leavitt · May 10th, 2007, 07:04 AM

I'm a big fan of the Blueline. We use it alongside a Schoeps, and it matches seamlessly in many environments (to my ears). The difference mainly becomes apparent in very bright rooms. It's not as forgiving off axis either.

Doug Lange · May 10th, 2007, 11:36 AM

Marco-
Is the unforgiving off-axis coloration (I assume) more distinct with a particular capsule such as the CK 93 hyper or with all of them? My guess would be that the CK 91 cardioid is a little more forgiving and the CK 92 omni is most forgiving.

Ty-
Yes, the Shoeps C6U with MK41 in my kit be fantastic. That mic will be there when I need it. Have you been able to do a test between the AT4053a and the AKG SE 300b - CK 93?

Marco Leavitt · May 10th, 2007, 12:25 PM

Well, the pattern on the CK91 is obviously wider, so I guess in that sense you could look at it as being more even. For what its worth (not much) on the published specs the CK93 has a flatter frequency response and the AT4053 has a better pattern. I don't know how much, if any, differnce it really makes to tell you the truth. I wouldn't stress over this decision too much. I think you'll be happy with either mic.

May 9th, 2007, 05:47 PM	#1
Doug Lange Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 138	Akg Se 300b I am interested in these mic systems. It seems more economical for the quality then buying separate mics. How do they compare to others for the price such as Sennheiser and AT? Being in Alaska, I can't just go to NYC and test them out. I need a stereo pair, so my thought was to go modular if it is clean enough and then get a good shotgun and hyper for the cost of the capsules. In other threads, it looks as though people are interested in the Blue Line but usually buy something else. Were buying decisions based on $$$ or that this mic occupies the middle ground that is too expensive for the masses (Rode seems to fill this niche well recently) but not good enough for the big budget buyers? Thanks __________________ After years of lurking, I finally made the mistake of opening my mouth.

May 9th, 2007, 09:15 PM	#2
Ty Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 2,337	Why do you need a stereo pair? Regards, Ty __________________ Ty Ford's Audio Bootcamp Field Guide Ty Ford's Audio Video Blog

May 10th, 2007, 02:54 AM	#3
Doug Lange Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 138	live music and theatre. Some local venues have unreliable house systems to tap into, so I would prefer to bypass. I've never done M/S, but it has caught my interest. Maybe I should go that route instead of a matched pair. Most of the time I freelance whatever I have time to do, which doesn't require a stereo recording, just a shotgun or a hyper, which is why I'm interested in the Blue Line. __________________ After years of lurking, I finally made the mistake of opening my mouth.

May 10th, 2007, 11:36 AM	#8
Doug Lange Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 138	Marco- Is the unforgiving off-axis coloration (I assume) more distinct with a particular capsule such as the CK 93 hyper or with all of them? My guess would be that the CK 91 cardioid is a little more forgiving and the CK 92 omni is most forgiving. Ty- Yes, the Shoeps C6U with MK41 in my kit be fantastic. That mic will be there when I need it. Have you been able to do a test between the AT4053a and the AKG SE 300b - CK 93? __________________ After years of lurking, I finally made the mistake of opening my mouth.

May 10th, 2007, 05:24 AM	#4
Jon Goodman Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 74	I recently bought one with the ck 93 hyper capsule and am quite happy with the sound. It may not be as sensitive as the schoeps, but for the price... it'll do until the inevitable upgrade. Jon

May 10th, 2007, 06:12 AM	#6
Ian Savage Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England Posts: 88	The Blueline is a wonderfull system for all manner of recording, certainly for loaction recording I wouldn't dare not have a couple in my kit, buy and you'll be forever glad you have them.

May 10th, 2007, 07:04 AM	#7
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	I'm a big fan of the Blueline. We use it alongside a Schoeps, and it matches seamlessly in many environments (to my ears). The difference mainly becomes apparent in very bright rooms. It's not as forgiving off axis either.

May 10th, 2007, 12:25 PM	#9
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	Well, the pattern on the CK91 is obviously wider, so I guess in that sense you could look at it as being more even. For what its worth (not much) on the published specs the CK93 has a flatter frequency response and the AT4053 has a better pattern. I don't know how much, if any, differnce it really makes to tell you the truth. I wouldn't stress over this decision too much. I think you'll be happy with either mic.