Wireless Stick Mic question at DVinfo.net

John Stromme · January 19th, 2007, 04:42 PM

Hey Everyone,

Please excuse me if I don't use the proper terminology.

I'm looking for a wireless stick mic with a with a wireless belt back. Basically something that would be ideal for shooting in the field.

We're trying to stay under $600. Do you all have any ideas?

Thanks

John

Steve House · January 19th, 2007, 05:02 PM

By "stick mic" do you mean a reporter's hand-held mic or do you mean a mic on a boom to hold over the scene?

John Stromme · January 20th, 2007, 02:08 AM

yeah sorry, I ment a reporter hand held mic.

Bill Davis · January 20th, 2007, 03:11 AM

Most of the major wireless microphone manufacturers make plug-on transmitters that will turn any handheld dynamic mic into a wireless unit.

In broadcast, you'll typically find traditional "reporter" mics like the Electrovoice RE-50, and EV 637's used constantly. (the 637 has a home in huge numbers of camera bags because it's virtually screw-up proof - for decades it's had a reputation that you can hammer nails with in in the morning and do an interview in the afternoon. It was so popular that TV stations used to order them in "6-packs" (six mics in a box) The traditional style is somewhat short and silver, they now offer model options with longer handles and offer a matte black finish option. Lately I've seen more and more shooters using Beyer M58s. (myself included) since it looks a bit more modern. There are plenty of other options, from Sony, Audio Technica and others but those still seem to be the big three.

You want a simple, foolproof dynamic. You want low "handling" noise.

Then pick a snap on transmitter and you're good to go.

The mic will probably run to $100-200.

A good transmitter is a bit more of a problem. The real quality units from Lectrosonics, Sony, etc. can run over $1000. Yeah, there are units available at around $400 from the low end companies (Sampson, Nady, Azden, etc) - but since most of the important information in any "talking" shot is carried by the voice. ANYTHING that compromises audio performance is, at least in my opinion, one of those "penny wise and pound foolish" deals.

Good luck.

John Stromme · January 22nd, 2007, 04:06 AM

Thanks a lot Bill

I appreciate the help!

Toenis Liivamaegi · January 22nd, 2007, 07:28 AM

AKG WMS 40 pro diversity set could be your best bet.
PR 40 pocket receiver
SO 40 snap on transmitter for dynamic mics only
Those are sold in sets sometimes referred as AKG PR40/SO this is true diversity wireless for about $300 and the receiver is as small as miniDV cassette. So, you would have plenty of cash to buy a Beyerdynamic M58 mic too.

One major thing to remember is that those WMS 40 diversity systems are fixed channel systems so if another one with the same frequency is near by you might get interference although they are available in different frequencies.

AKG diversity set is available here

Cheers,
T

Todd McCormick · January 22nd, 2007, 10:42 AM

Not to nitpick, but I believe it to be a Electro Voice 635, not 637 just in case he goes looking for that mic, plus it's a part of my wireless rig. ;-)

Bill Davis · January 23rd, 2007, 12:33 AM

Todd,

Good catch. I bought mine (I own 2) about 20 years ago and screwed up the number.

EV 635

Chris Rieman · April 23rd, 2007, 03:46 PM

I hate to start new threads so I will just continue on this one...

Assuming I can get the battery cover off my SKP100 wireless transmitter for XLR mikes, Im looking for a decent handheld interview mike for outdoor use. Budget is $200 max but cheaper is better if theres a better bang/buck.

I guess Im looking for unidirectional? I want to block out sound from the peripheral and keep it concentrated on the interviewee.

Not knowing the conditions, I probably need a goof muff or foam windshield that will fit suggested mike.

Anyone with a suggestion for use with SKP100 and Senn G2 receiver? Something that performs terrific indoor/outdoor is my goal.

Is the EV635 about as good and goofproof as it gets for the price?

Guy Cochran · April 24th, 2007, 10:38 AM

I'm pretty impressed with the Sennheiser MD46 when coupled with the SKP 100. It is remarkably clean sounding. Theres a nice weight to it too, feels comfortable in hand. You can listen to one hooked up directly to a Canon XL2 in an interview I shot awhile back, http://www.dvcreators.net/products/n...movieframe.htm
The MD46 allows you to get a little bit further back then you would with a dynamic omni since it is a cardioid. You may have seen/heard this mic while watching the track and field events at the Olympics or on Jay Leno's "Jaywalking" segments.

January 19th, 2007, 04:42 PM	#1
John Stromme New Boot Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 15	Wireless Stick Mic question Hey Everyone, Please excuse me if I don't use the proper terminology. I'm looking for a wireless stick mic with a with a wireless belt back. Basically something that would be ideal for shooting in the field. We're trying to stay under $600. Do you all have any ideas? Thanks John

January 19th, 2007, 05:02 PM	#2
Steve House Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,742	By "stick mic" do you mean a reporter's hand-held mic or do you mean a mic on a boom to hold over the scene? __________________ Good news, Cousins! This week's chocolate ration is 15 grams!

January 20th, 2007, 03:11 AM	#4
Bill Davis Trustee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ 85260 Posts: 1,538	Some suggestions... Most of the major wireless microphone manufacturers make plug-on transmitters that will turn any handheld dynamic mic into a wireless unit. In broadcast, you'll typically find traditional "reporter" mics like the Electrovoice RE-50, and EV 637's used constantly. (the 637 has a home in huge numbers of camera bags because it's virtually screw-up proof - for decades it's had a reputation that you can hammer nails with in in the morning and do an interview in the afternoon. It was so popular that TV stations used to order them in "6-packs" (six mics in a box) The traditional style is somewhat short and silver, they now offer model options with longer handles and offer a matte black finish option. Lately I've seen more and more shooters using Beyer M58s. (myself included) since it looks a bit more modern. There are plenty of other options, from Sony, Audio Technica and others but those still seem to be the big three. You want a simple, foolproof dynamic. You want low "handling" noise. Then pick a snap on transmitter and you're good to go. The mic will probably run to $100-200. A good transmitter is a bit more of a problem. The real quality units from Lectrosonics, Sony, etc. can run over $1000. Yeah, there are units available at around $400 from the low end companies (Sampson, Nady, Azden, etc) - but since most of the important information in any "talking" shot is carried by the voice. ANYTHING that compromises audio performance is, at least in my opinion, one of those "penny wise and pound foolish" deals. Good luck.

April 23rd, 2007, 03:46 PM	#9
Chris Rieman Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton OH Posts: 100	I hate to start new threads so I will just continue on this one... Assuming I can get the battery cover off my SKP100 wireless transmitter for XLR mikes, Im looking for a decent handheld interview mike for outdoor use. Budget is $200 max but cheaper is better if theres a better bang/buck. I guess Im looking for unidirectional? I want to block out sound from the peripheral and keep it concentrated on the interviewee. Not knowing the conditions, I probably need a goof muff or foam windshield that will fit suggested mike. Anyone with a suggestion for use with SKP100 and Senn G2 receiver? Something that performs terrific indoor/outdoor is my goal. Is the EV635 about as good and goofproof as it gets for the price? __________________ Unsurpassed Dayton Flyer Sports Coverage -------------------------- UD Pride http://www.udpride.com

April 24th, 2007, 10:38 AM	#10
Guy Cochran DVCreators.Net Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 892	I'm pretty impressed with the Sennheiser MD46 when coupled with the SKP 100. It is remarkably clean sounding. Theres a nice weight to it too, feels comfortable in hand. You can listen to one hooked up directly to a Canon XL2 in an interview I shot awhile back, http://www.dvcreators.net/products/n...movieframe.htm The MD46 allows you to get a little bit further back then you would with a dynamic omni since it is a cardioid. You may have seen/heard this mic while watching the track and field events at the Olympics or on Jay Leno's "Jaywalking" segments. __________________ Guy Cochran DVinfo Sponsor, Cool Gear - DVeStore!

January 20th, 2007, 02:08 AM	#3
John Stromme New Boot Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 15	yeah sorry, I ment a reporter hand held mic.

January 22nd, 2007, 04:06 AM	#5
John Stromme New Boot Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 15	Thanks a lot Bill I appreciate the help!

January 22nd, 2007, 07:28 AM	#6
Toenis Liivamaegi Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tartu, Estonia Posts: 579	AKG WMS 40 pro diversity set could be your best bet. PR 40 pocket receiver SO 40 snap on transmitter for dynamic mics only Those are sold in sets sometimes referred as AKG PR40/SO this is true diversity wireless for about $300 and the receiver is as small as miniDV cassette. So, you would have plenty of cash to buy a Beyerdynamic M58 mic too. One major thing to remember is that those WMS 40 diversity systems are fixed channel systems so if another one with the same frequency is near by you might get interference although they are available in different frequencies. AKG diversity set is available here Cheers, T

January 22nd, 2007, 10:42 AM	#7
Todd McCormick New Boot Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Burke, VA Posts: 14	Not to nitpick, but I believe it to be a Electro Voice 635, not 637 just in case he goes looking for that mic, plus it's a part of my wireless rig. ;-)

January 23rd, 2007, 12:33 AM	#8
Bill Davis Trustee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ 85260 Posts: 1,538	Todd, Good catch. I bought mine (I own 2) about 20 years ago and screwed up the number. EV 635