Which shot-gun mic is better for outside me66/mkh416 !! at DVinfo.net

Michael Ojjeh · August 8th, 2006, 05:16 PM

I am going to be working on a project that needs to use shot-gun mic to capture some action sounds ( like horses running ). and It will be recorded on either XL_H1 or on the Marantz PMD660.
Is the Sennheiser ME66 adequate for the job or the MKH416 is higher quality then the ME66 I know it is more money but is it worth it ?
Now it is also possibility that I might use the mic for some interview using a boom pole.
Any help will be grateful.

Guy Cochran · August 8th, 2006, 08:04 PM

The 416 is definitely better. It's like AM vs FM radio in terms of clarity....the Sennheiser 416 captures detail so well that it is almost like being there!

Mike Bement · August 8th, 2006, 08:30 PM

I just helped on a 3-day shoot outdoors (documentary). We used a 416, AKG CK98, and a Sanken CS1. The AKG and Sanken were mounted on cameras, the 416 was on a boom.

First impressions from the recordings, based on individual taste, put the Sanken ahead, with the Sennheiser and AKG next, but very close and very hard to differentiate.

Since all three mics were not on the same exact type of recording device in the same exact conditions, I suppose any ranking or comparison would be rather meaningless. There were also three different guys monitoring and making adjustments on the recordings.

Outside, on this particular project, there was lots of ambient noise, (birds, cicadas [very loud], lots of wind in the trees, footsteps in rocks, etc.) making subtle differences between these three fine mics not very evident. At the time, I wondered if the extra money spent on good mics would make any difference on that particular shoot. Having three of the same kind would probably be best.

Indoors, it's a whole different game. (I like the Sanken and 416 best by a long ways).

My opinion: If my only choices were ME66 or 416, the 416 would be my choice without question. It would certainly be the best investment over the long haul.

Cheers,

MB

Michael Ojjeh · August 8th, 2006, 09:16 PM

Thank you Mike for the info. My choices are not limited to just me66 or 416, I am open for any recommendation, I just have more info on these mics from the DV info then others. So any advice will be helpful.

August 8th, 2006, 05:16 PM	#1
Michael Ojjeh Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 338	Which shot-gun mic is better for outside me66/mkh416 !! I am going to be working on a project that needs to use shot-gun mic to capture some action sounds ( like horses running ). and It will be recorded on either XL_H1 or on the Marantz PMD660. Is the Sennheiser ME66 adequate for the job or the MKH416 is higher quality then the ME66 I know it is more money but is it worth it ? Now it is also possibility that I might use the mic for some interview using a boom pole. Any help will be grateful.

August 8th, 2006, 08:04 PM	#2
Guy Cochran DVCreators.Net Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 892	The 416 is definitely better. It's like AM vs FM radio in terms of clarity....the Sennheiser 416 captures detail so well that it is almost like being there! __________________ Guy Cochran DVinfo Sponsor, Cool Gear - DVeStore!

August 8th, 2006, 08:30 PM	#3
Mike Bement New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bucks Co, PA Posts: 8	Are those your only choices? I just helped on a 3-day shoot outdoors (documentary). We used a 416, AKG CK98, and a Sanken CS1. The AKG and Sanken were mounted on cameras, the 416 was on a boom. First impressions from the recordings, based on individual taste, put the Sanken ahead, with the Sennheiser and AKG next, but very close and very hard to differentiate. Since all three mics were not on the same exact type of recording device in the same exact conditions, I suppose any ranking or comparison would be rather meaningless. There were also three different guys monitoring and making adjustments on the recordings. Outside, on this particular project, there was lots of ambient noise, (birds, cicadas [very loud], lots of wind in the trees, footsteps in rocks, etc.) making subtle differences between these three fine mics not very evident. At the time, I wondered if the extra money spent on good mics would make any difference on that particular shoot. Having three of the same kind would probably be best. Indoors, it's a whole different game. (I like the Sanken and 416 best by a long ways). My opinion: If my only choices were ME66 or 416, the 416 would be my choice without question. It would certainly be the best investment over the long haul. Cheers, MB

August 8th, 2006, 09:16 PM	#4
Michael Ojjeh Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 338	Thank you Mike for the info. My choices are not limited to just me66 or 416, I am open for any recommendation, I just have more info on these mics from the DV info then others. So any advice will be helpful.