Canon XL2 Shotgun Setup??? at DVinfo.net

Zach Anderson · June 26th, 2006, 08:30 PM

I've just picked up an AT-897 Shotgun Mic for my Canon XL2 and mounted it. I am trying to figure out the best audio setup.
With ATT off or on, Manual or Auto settings on audio...
What should I do with the Standard Canon Stereo Mic and it's setup....

Bottom Line:
What is the Best Setup for my Shotgun Mic, so I get good Dialogue volume with low static noise from the camera???

Thanks,
Zach

PS- I did a search on this...but nothing really comes ups.

Bruce S. Yarock · June 27th, 2006, 03:50 AM

Zach,
I've been using an 897 for a year on my xl2 and I'm happy with it. I leave it on the left channel, and my wireles on the right channel. Set the channel selector to "channel 1"( I think...I'm not at the camera now). This keeps the 897 on one channel, and the wireless on the other (you can tweak each seperately in post)."Channel 1+2" mixes both together.
The mic att lowers the signal. Use it in a real loud situation. But try both ways. I always leave my audio setting to manual. Auto raises the background noise too much. Leave your canon mic in your bag, and use it if you ever want stereo ambience, music, etc.
have fun
Bruce S. yarock

Zach Anderson · June 27th, 2006, 06:29 PM

Thanks Bruce....Do you use R-XLR Gainup in the Audio Options???
and what type of wireless system are you using?

Bruce S. Yarock · June 28th, 2006, 06:53 AM

I use normal gain. My wireless is a Sennheiser g2. I paid the extra $100 and got the plug that adats any hand held mic into wireless. The whole kit is around $550. I got mine at bh.
Bruce yarock

Mark Sasahara · June 30th, 2006, 09:34 PM

If you need to attenuate the incoming signal on your shotgun, use the Audio Technica 8202. This has a user selectable -10, -20 or -30db pad. I have Sennheisers and if I'm going straight into the camera, I often use the AT8202 at -10db. I sometimes cover the switch with paper tape so it won't get moved.

On all my video and audio ins and outs, I use short 12" pigtails and tie those to the body. That way any pulling is on the pigtail, not on the camera. On the DVX100 this can be bad as the video out is right on the circuitboard. When using the DVX I undue the velcro on the handgrip pad and slide the video out thru that so it doesn't torque the board. You might even loop it. Using pigtails for the video out, requires a barrel connector, but I haven't noticed any serious degradation to the signal. Plus I'm usually feeding the director's monitor, so it's fine.

Canon's onboard "ATT" switch brings the level down -20, or -30db, I forget which, but it's a little bit too much of a pad for most normal sound levels.

Hi Bruce!

Bruce S. Yarock · July 1st, 2006, 05:26 AM

hey Mark,
Where do you get those 12" cables?
Bruce S. Yarock

Mark Sasahara · July 1st, 2006, 08:08 AM

Bruce,

Good ole B&H for XLR and BNC pigtails. They're relatively cheap. I secure them with velcro, or tie line to the handle, or the metal bracket in the back.

Bruce S. Yarock · July 1st, 2006, 08:28 AM

Thanks mark.
Bruce S. Yarock

June 26th, 2006, 08:30 PM	#1
Zach Anderson New Boot Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5	Canon XL2 Shotgun Setup??? I've just picked up an AT-897 Shotgun Mic for my Canon XL2 and mounted it. I am trying to figure out the best audio setup. With ATT off or on, Manual or Auto settings on audio... What should I do with the Standard Canon Stereo Mic and it's setup.... Bottom Line: What is the Best Setup for my Shotgun Mic, so I get good Dialogue volume with low static noise from the camera??? Thanks, Zach PS- I did a search on this...but nothing really comes ups.

June 30th, 2006, 09:34 PM	#5
Mark Sasahara Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 649	If you need to attenuate the incoming signal on your shotgun, use the Audio Technica 8202. This has a user selectable -10, -20 or -30db pad. I have Sennheisers and if I'm going straight into the camera, I often use the AT8202 at -10db. I sometimes cover the switch with paper tape so it won't get moved. On all my video and audio ins and outs, I use short 12" pigtails and tie those to the body. That way any pulling is on the pigtail, not on the camera. On the DVX100 this can be bad as the video out is right on the circuitboard. When using the DVX I undue the velcro on the handgrip pad and slide the video out thru that so it doesn't torque the board. You might even loop it. Using pigtails for the video out, requires a barrel connector, but I haven't noticed any serious degradation to the signal. Plus I'm usually feeding the director's monitor, so it's fine. Canon's onboard "ATT" switch brings the level down -20, or -30db, I forget which, but it's a little bit too much of a pad for most normal sound levels. Hi Bruce! __________________ Mark Sasahara Director of Photography

July 1st, 2006, 08:08 AM	#7
Mark Sasahara Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 649	Bruce, Good ole B&H for XLR and BNC pigtails. They're relatively cheap. I secure them with velcro, or tie line to the handle, or the metal bracket in the back. __________________ Mark Sasahara Director of Photography

June 27th, 2006, 03:50 AM	#2
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Zach, I've been using an 897 for a year on my xl2 and I'm happy with it. I leave it on the left channel, and my wireles on the right channel. Set the channel selector to "channel 1"( I think...I'm not at the camera now). This keeps the 897 on one channel, and the wireless on the other (you can tweak each seperately in post)."Channel 1+2" mixes both together. The mic att lowers the signal. Use it in a real loud situation. But try both ways. I always leave my audio setting to manual. Auto raises the background noise too much. Leave your canon mic in your bag, and use it if you ever want stereo ambience, music, etc. have fun Bruce S. yarock

June 27th, 2006, 06:29 PM	#3
Zach Anderson New Boot Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5	Thanks Bruce....Do you use R-XLR Gainup in the Audio Options??? and what type of wireless system are you using?

June 28th, 2006, 06:53 AM	#4
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	I use normal gain. My wireless is a Sennheiser g2. I paid the extra $100 and got the plug that adats any hand held mic into wireless. The whole kit is around $550. I got mine at bh. Bruce yarock

July 1st, 2006, 05:26 AM	#6
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	hey Mark, Where do you get those 12" cables? Bruce S. Yarock

July 1st, 2006, 08:28 AM	#8
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Thanks mark. Bruce S. Yarock