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Dennis Cummins · May 24th, 2006, 03:59 AM

Quick question for you audio experts! I live in Ireland, im travelling to the states soon where I plan on purchasing some Sennhiser radio mics (transmitter & receiver) my question is, will these work back in Ireland or is the frequency different in the states?

Sorry this may sound like a stupid question my audio knowledge is not very good. Cheers.

Mark Armstrong · May 24th, 2006, 04:50 AM

The G2 system has a wide array of freqs to choose from so should not be a problen and cost around AU $1000 per channel.

Mark Armstrong · May 24th, 2006, 04:57 AM

The "Tourist" also should have mentioned G2 is Sennheiser's latest entry into the wireless market but is not really "pro" ie non diversity and prone to occasional dropouts hence the price as its aimed at the lower end of the "pro" market and has limitations but is good for most DV apps

Dennis Cummins · May 24th, 2006, 05:14 AM

so do you reckon it will work in ireland then?

Tom Hardwick · May 24th, 2006, 05:38 AM

Yes. It'll also work on the moon and under water.

Mark Armstrong · May 24th, 2006, 06:01 AM

Dennis
Whatever location you have banks of freqs to work with so move around and see what works

Mark Armstrong · May 24th, 2006, 06:19 AM

Dennis

Having said that I think the G2 Senns are the best for the price along with Sony's offering in the same field for relatively cheap rads as they do most things admirably but fall short in some loc apps( occ dropouts) that may not be pertinent to your app. PS I have had some dropouts that were ratheing embarising but in ENG there's little "can we go again"....

Dennis Cummins · May 24th, 2006, 10:10 AM

just rang Senns there who said the ones i bought in the states would not work in ireland so a couple of you guys or wrong im afraid...

Jack D. Hubbard · May 24th, 2006, 10:23 AM

The mics will work anywhere, I believe if you have both the transmitter and the receiver set on the same frequency. I have used mine world wide. The only problem is local RF interference. At 11,000 feet in the Peruvian Andes, the local cops were on the same freq and blew me out. (When you're able, use a cable).

Dennis Cummins · May 24th, 2006, 10:37 AM

well senns said they wont, im no expert but i think you guys are on a UHF freq where as we work off a VHF freq??

Douglas Spotted Eagle · May 24th, 2006, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack D. Hubbard

(When you're able, use a cable).

Sound advice (pun intended) that unfortunately is heeded far, far too little.

Dennis Cummins · May 24th, 2006, 10:48 AM

does anyone for definite as i can save over 300 bucks if i buy them in the states?? surely senns cant be wrong??

Douglas Spotted Eagle · May 24th, 2006, 10:55 AM

I'm quite sure they are right. Frequency plans vary from country to country. I know I can't use my UHF systems in England, but can in Sweden. Serious problems in Germany on several frequencies, totally usable in Russia on virtually all frequencies. In Brazil, can't use my UHF systems at all, but could use them in Argentina. We carry 6 in our rack, so it's even more complicated, but bottom line is, you need a frequency management plan before going overseas. The same would apply buying from the US for use overseas.

Dennis Cummins · May 24th, 2006, 10:57 AM

Thanks DSE

Greg Bellotte · May 24th, 2006, 03:17 PM

There is "working", and then there is "legally working". If you transmit on a frequency, ANY frequency, and set the reciever to pick up THAT frequency, it will "work". Even on Venus. :-) Sennheiser probably said the US units won't "work" because they know that the frequencies loaded in the US units may not be acceptable for use in other contries. The open channels in the US could very easily be emergency communications, broadcast, or even hotel housekeeping in other countries around the world. Penalties for broadcasting (even for low power wireless mics) on unauthorized channels vary by country. Chances of getting busted on a 30mW transmission are probably pretty slim, but if caught the entire world seems to agree that "ignorance of the law is no excuse". Do yourself a favor and find out from the country you plan on using equipment in, what the regulations and proper channels are. If those laws include a portion of channels in US equipment, you'll be golden.

May 24th, 2006, 03:59 AM	#1
Dennis Cummins Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 123	Radio mics Quick question for you audio experts! I live in Ireland, im travelling to the states soon where I plan on purchasing some Sennhiser radio mics (transmitter & receiver) my question is, will these work back in Ireland or is the frequency different in the states? Sorry this may sound like a stupid question my audio knowledge is not very good. Cheers.

May 24th, 2006, 06:01 AM	#6
Mark Armstrong New Boot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 8	Re Rads workin In Ireland Dennis Whatever location you have banks of freqs to work with so move around and see what works

May 24th, 2006, 06:19 AM	#7
Mark Armstrong New Boot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 8	Re Rads Dennis Having said that I think the G2 Senns are the best for the price along with Sony's offering in the same field for relatively cheap rads as they do most things admirably but fall short in some loc apps( occ dropouts) that may not be pertinent to your app. PS I have had some dropouts that were ratheing embarising but in ENG there's little "can we go again"....

May 24th, 2006, 10:23 AM	#9
Jack D. Hubbard Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Menlo Park, CA Posts: 342	freqs The mics will work anywhere, I believe if you have both the transmitter and the receiver set on the same frequency. I have used mine world wide. The only problem is local RF interference. At 11,000 feet in the Peruvian Andes, the local cops were on the same freq and blew me out. (When you're able, use a cable).

May 24th, 2006, 10:55 AM	#13
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	I'm quite sure they are right. Frequency plans vary from country to country. I know I can't use my UHF systems in England, but can in Sweden. Serious problems in Germany on several frequencies, totally usable in Russia on virtually all frequencies. In Brazil, can't use my UHF systems at all, but could use them in Argentina. We carry 6 in our rack, so it's even more complicated, but bottom line is, you need a frequency management plan before going overseas. The same would apply buying from the US for use overseas. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

May 24th, 2006, 04:50 AM	#2
Mark Armstrong New Boot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 8	The G2 system has a wide array of freqs to choose from so should not be a problen and cost around AU $1000 per channel.

May 24th, 2006, 04:57 AM	#3
Mark Armstrong New Boot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 8	The "Tourist" also should have mentioned G2 is Sennheiser's latest entry into the wireless market but is not really "pro" ie non diversity and prone to occasional dropouts hence the price as its aimed at the lower end of the "pro" market and has limitations but is good for most DV apps

May 24th, 2006, 05:14 AM	#4
Dennis Cummins Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 123	so do you reckon it will work in ireland then?

May 24th, 2006, 05:38 AM	#5
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Yes. It'll also work on the moon and under water.

May 24th, 2006, 10:10 AM	#8
Dennis Cummins Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 123	just rang Senns there who said the ones i bought in the states would not work in ireland so a couple of you guys or wrong im afraid...

May 24th, 2006, 10:37 AM	#10
Dennis Cummins Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 123	well senns said they wont, im no expert but i think you guys are on a UHF freq where as we work off a VHF freq??

May 24th, 2006, 10:48 AM	#12
Dennis Cummins Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 123	does anyone for definite as i can save over 300 bucks if i buy them in the states?? surely senns cant be wrong??

May 24th, 2006, 10:57 AM	#14
Dennis Cummins Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 123	Thanks DSE

May 24th, 2006, 03:17 PM	#15
Greg Bellotte Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 291	There is "working", and then there is "legally working". If you transmit on a frequency, ANY frequency, and set the reciever to pick up THAT frequency, it will "work". Even on Venus. :-) Sennheiser probably said the US units won't "work" because they know that the frequencies loaded in the US units may not be acceptable for use in other contries. The open channels in the US could very easily be emergency communications, broadcast, or even hotel housekeeping in other countries around the world. Penalties for broadcasting (even for low power wireless mics) on unauthorized channels vary by country. Chances of getting busted on a 30mW transmission are probably pretty slim, but if caught the entire world seems to agree that "ignorance of the law is no excuse". Do yourself a favor and find out from the country you plan on using equipment in, what the regulations and proper channels are. If those laws include a portion of channels in US equipment, you'll be golden.