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February 11th, 2006, 07:32 PM | #1 |
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What mic would you use?
If you didn't have a boom operator, what kind of mic would you use to record a group of people? Picture a group of eight sitting close together and having a discussion. Multiple people may speak at the same time. I was thinking a single condenser set to omni pattern near the center.
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If I was faced with that challenge, I would use at least two good condenser microphones.
Are you recording just audio or video also. If video, then I would attempt to hang the two condensers above the group, just out of the frame.
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Yeah, I'm doing video also. That's a good idea. What I could do is have two omni lavs hanging down from the ceiling on either side and then fade in the best audio for each particular person.
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Were it me, I'd use two or three boundary mics in a star pattern.
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By the way, I made the voice over box in your article. I guess it's just common sense, but I probably wouldn't have thought of it. Very cool!
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So for your group, put perhaps a round coffee table on the set and seat them in a semi circle around one side. Put a boundary mic in the centre of the table or 2 or 3 of them evenly spaced and about halfway out to the edge around the side of the table with the group.
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Ok, what if there were no table? What if a group of 8 are just sitting in folding chairs? What would sound better: two boundary mics on the floor or two lav mics dangling from above (I think the lavs could get closer to the sound)?
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Whatever you can get closest to the source is likely your best bet. If we're gonna start playing "what if?" rather than dealing with an actual scenario, then get a good boom op with a sensitive cardioid on the end of the boom.
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I really don't want to annoy them with a boom mic and I don't think they would talk as freely if someone were pointing a mic at them every time they started talking. The point is for them to forget about being filmed. The boundary mic on a coffee table idea would probably be the most inconspicuous. Thanks for the explanation of boundary mics Steve.
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I don't think a boom would be a good choice anyway for recording a group of people who may all be talking at the same time. Even a pro would have a hard time doing that. Boundary mics seem to come in a variety of flavors: stereo, cardoid, hemi-cardoid... I don't see any omni's. The stereo At854R could be placed in the middle of the group and then I'd have two channels to to mix in post. Of course for that price, I could buy four of the cheap ones. I'm just not sure about hemi cardoid... I'll have to look up the polar pattern to see what it looks like. Any recommendations?
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The polar pattern of the hemi-cardoid looks the same as a regular cardoid, so two or three Pro-44's would probably get the job done.
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