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Joel Sommer · February 6th, 2006, 10:27 AM

Hello,

I just got a Shure WL 184 (supercardoid) which I plan on using for indoor recording as well as for out on the farm in an orchard for an instructional DVD. I'll be using a Canon GL2 with DXA6 audio input in conjunction and also have a Rode Video Mic that I may use or not.

I want to use the lavalier WL184 when possible. It came with two windscreens, the larger provides 30 db of pop protection and the smaller one provides 15 db of pop protection.

Is the "pop protection" talking about the "P" sounding loud, I guess "popping" in the audio? Anyway, do I need to use one when recording indoors, and if so, which? As for outdoors, I'm going to guess the larger one.

Anyway, any assistance or education on the windscreens or the WL 184 is greatly appreciated. Oh, I have a Canon GL2.

Ty Ford · February 8th, 2006, 10:10 PM

[QUOTE=Joel Sommer]Hello,

I just got a Shure WL 184 (supercardoid) which I plan on using for indoor recording as well as for out on the farm in an orchard for an instructional DVD. I'll be using a Canon GL2 with DXA6 audio input in conjunction and also have a Rode Video Mic that I may use or not.

**Being a super cardioid, make sure it's pointed in the right direction when you place it on the talent.

I want to use the lavalier WL184 when possible. It came with two windscreens, the larger provides 30 db of pop protection and the smaller one provides 15 db of pop protection.

Is the "pop protection" talking about the "P" sounding loud, I guess "popping" in the audio? Anyway, do I need to use one when recording indoors, and if so, which? As for outdoors, I'm going to guess the larger one.

**P popping or wind noise, it's all the same, a busted take. The suprecardioid and cardioid mics are more prone to popping than omnis.

Regards,

Ty Ford

Joel Sommer · February 9th, 2006, 08:29 AM

Also, I was testing the WL184 the other day and hooked it up to my Beachtek DXA6 input. I keep feeling a "shock" from the clip or mic on my chest if I clip it on a t-shirt. Have you had any experience with that before? The WL184 plugs into a cigar shaped item that converts it from the small plug to the XLR cable that then runs and plugs into the DXA6.

Do I have to change something? I've got the DXA6 set to "mic" with the power on in the left mic bank. Will the mono audio then be able to be edited to be mono=stereo on both channels? I'm supposed to start filming today. Actually, now that I've got a perishable product, I have to start today.

Thanks and have a great day,
joel

Ty Ford · February 9th, 2006, 08:57 AM

sounds like static build up. Can you attach those rubber grounding straps like you see on trucks to dissipate the static? :)

Or try a humidifier.

Regards,

Ty Ford

Joel Sommer · February 9th, 2006, 02:04 PM

Here's what support at Shure had to say:

Response (Michael Pettersen) 02/09/2006 09:18 AM
Yes, it is possible, but the source of the shock is not the mic...the mic is simply the grounding path. The source of the shock current is whatever device was connected the 120V ac source, like an audio mixer or a camera. No matter what the source, this can be dangerous.

Please read this link to better understand the theory of such shocks:
http://shure.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/sh...p?p_faqid=2653

We urge you to have a qualified electronic technician inspect your audio setup and locate the source of the shock current.

My Beachtek is brand new... maybe the cable or unit that converts the XLR to the smaller mic cable that attaches to my belt?

February 6th, 2006, 10:27 AM	#1
Joel Sommer New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11	Shure WL 184 Hello, I just got a Shure WL 184 (supercardoid) which I plan on using for indoor recording as well as for out on the farm in an orchard for an instructional DVD. I'll be using a Canon GL2 with DXA6 audio input in conjunction and also have a Rode Video Mic that I may use or not. I want to use the lavalier WL184 when possible. It came with two windscreens, the larger provides 30 db of pop protection and the smaller one provides 15 db of pop protection. Is the "pop protection" talking about the "P" sounding loud, I guess "popping" in the audio? Anyway, do I need to use one when recording indoors, and if so, which? As for outdoors, I'm going to guess the larger one. Anyway, any assistance or education on the windscreens or the WL 184 is greatly appreciated. Oh, I have a Canon GL2.

February 8th, 2006, 10:10 PM	#2
Ty Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 2,337	[QUOTE=Joel Sommer]Hello, I just got a Shure WL 184 (supercardoid) which I plan on using for indoor recording as well as for out on the farm in an orchard for an instructional DVD. I'll be using a Canon GL2 with DXA6 audio input in conjunction and also have a Rode Video Mic that I may use or not. Being a super cardioid, make sure it's pointed in the right direction when you place it on the talent. I want to use the lavalier WL184 when possible. It came with two windscreens, the larger provides 30 db of pop protection and the smaller one provides 15 db of pop protection. Is the "pop protection" talking about the "P" sounding loud, I guess "popping" in the audio? Anyway, do I need to use one when recording indoors, and if so, which? As for outdoors, I'm going to guess the larger one. P popping or wind noise, it's all the same, a busted take. The suprecardioid and cardioid mics are more prone to popping than omnis. Regards, Ty Ford __________________ Ty Ford's Audio Bootcamp Field Guide Ty Ford's Audio Video Blog

February 9th, 2006, 08:29 AM	#3
Joel Sommer New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11	Thanks Ty Also, I was testing the WL184 the other day and hooked it up to my Beachtek DXA6 input. I keep feeling a "shock" from the clip or mic on my chest if I clip it on a t-shirt. Have you had any experience with that before? The WL184 plugs into a cigar shaped item that converts it from the small plug to the XLR cable that then runs and plugs into the DXA6. Do I have to change something? I've got the DXA6 set to "mic" with the power on in the left mic bank. Will the mono audio then be able to be edited to be mono=stereo on both channels? I'm supposed to start filming today. Actually, now that I've got a perishable product, I have to start today. Thanks and have a great day, joel

February 9th, 2006, 08:57 AM	#4
Ty Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 2,337	sounds like static build up. Can you attach those rubber grounding straps like you see on trucks to dissipate the static? :) Or try a humidifier. Regards, Ty Ford __________________ Ty Ford's Audio Bootcamp Field Guide Ty Ford's Audio Video Blog

February 9th, 2006, 02:04 PM	#5
Joel Sommer New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11	Here's what support at Shure had to say: Response (Michael Pettersen) 02/09/2006 09:18 AM Yes, it is possible, but the source of the shock is not the mic...the mic is simply the grounding path. The source of the shock current is whatever device was connected the 120V ac source, like an audio mixer or a camera. No matter what the source, this can be dangerous. Please read this link to better understand the theory of such shocks: http://shure.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/sh...p?p_faqid=2653 We urge you to have a qualified electronic technician inspect your audio setup and locate the source of the shock current. My Beachtek is brand new... maybe the cable or unit that converts the XLR to the smaller mic cable that attaches to my belt?