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Jemore Santos · February 5th, 2006, 08:51 AM

What's the difference between electric condensors (super cardroid) to hyper cardroids or your run of the mill shot gun (AT897). Is it true that super cadroids are uni directional? is there an advantage to that?

Douglas Spotted Eagle · February 5th, 2006, 01:33 PM

I'm a little confused with your post. Condenser mics aren't necessarily cardiod, they can be omni, or hyper cardiod. Or "super cardiod" which is the same as hyper cardiod.
The 897 isn't a "run of the mill" shotgun, it's a shorter shotgun designed to work better indoors than most shotguns, which means it also suffers a bit in larger spaces where you'd use a more "run of the mill" shotgun.

Anything that is cardiod is unidirectional; by the mere definition of cardiod, it's one-direction.
Cardiod means "heart-shaped." Picture a drawing of a heart. Where the two curves intersect, this is where the mic pickup pattern is most sensitive. Anything behind that curve is rejected in varying degrees, depending on the particular mic model.

Jemore Santos · February 5th, 2006, 06:06 PM

so whats the difference between a super and a hypercardroid or is it very close to being similiar?

Doug Boze · February 5th, 2006, 11:28 PM

Without knowing who's using the nomenclature, it sounds like advertising spin. If mic A is supercardiod and mic B is hypercardiod, you need to compare the charts. Then you'll see.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · February 5th, 2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jemore Santos

so whats the difference between a super and a hypercardroid or is it very close to being similiar?

Like I mentioned initially, and as Doug Boze points out, they are essentially the same thing. Marketing terms more than anything. Overall, look at the printed pickup pattern for the mic. You can immediately see what it is. Super, Hyper, Ultra....all words used to describe a very tight cardioid mic pattern.

February 5th, 2006, 08:51 AM	#1
Jemore Santos Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tokyo/Sydney Posts: 297	Electric condensors What's the difference between electric condensors (super cardroid) to hyper cardroids or your run of the mill shot gun (AT897). Is it true that super cadroids are uni directional? is there an advantage to that? __________________ "eyes through a digital world"

February 5th, 2006, 01:33 PM	#2
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	I'm a little confused with your post. Condenser mics aren't necessarily cardiod, they can be omni, or hyper cardiod. Or "super cardiod" which is the same as hyper cardiod. The 897 isn't a "run of the mill" shotgun, it's a shorter shotgun designed to work better indoors than most shotguns, which means it also suffers a bit in larger spaces where you'd use a more "run of the mill" shotgun. Anything that is cardiod is unidirectional; by the mere definition of cardiod, it's one-direction. Cardiod means "heart-shaped." Picture a drawing of a heart. Where the two curves intersect, this is where the mic pickup pattern is most sensitive. Anything behind that curve is rejected in varying degrees, depending on the particular mic model. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

February 5th, 2006, 06:06 PM	#3
Jemore Santos Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tokyo/Sydney Posts: 297	so whats the difference between a super and a hypercardroid or is it very close to being similiar? __________________ "eyes through a digital world"

February 5th, 2006, 11:28 PM	#4
Doug Boze Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 218	Without knowing who's using the nomenclature, it sounds like advertising spin. If mic A is supercardiod and mic B is hypercardiod, you need to compare the charts. Then you'll see. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759