All Things Audio -- topics from 2002 thru 2004

K. Forman · May 7th, 2003, 01:30 PM

That should be sufficient enough for background noise.

Susan Highsmith · May 7th, 2003, 07:21 PM

I’m curious, when making your films, what kind of mic do some of you use with your dvx-100? And do you have it camcorded mounted, boom mounted, or plugged directly into the XLR inputs of a recorder? When it comes to all the audio equipment/accessories that are essential for high quality sound, I am clueless. If anyone could write out a list, I would be eternally grateful. Thanx for any info you can provide.

Frank Granovski · May 7th, 2003, 08:21 PM

The Sennheiser ME66/K6 is pretty good, depending on what you want a mic for. I like to mount a mic on the tripod or on the cam---depending on what you want to do.

Christopher Go · May 7th, 2003, 08:59 PM

We use an Audio Technica 4073a shotgun microphone, Lightwave GT-10 boompole, and Audio Technica 8415 shockmount for our sound. Looking into getting a longer boompole and some windscreen equipment as well pretty soon. This is not connected to our AG-DVX100 however. Instead we're learning to use a double-system setup with a Tascam DA-P1 DAT recorder.

Check out Equipment Emporium for some good articles on sound equipment and sales.

Joe Gioielli · May 8th, 2003, 12:32 PM

I am looking to buy a cd of public domain music. What companies have you dealt with that you have been happy with?

Richard Alvarez · May 8th, 2003, 01:10 PM

"Public Domain Music"

Not sure what you mean by that. Music whose copyright has expired, is in the public domain... but that doesn't mean a particular recording of that music is... follow me?

Are you looking for "Royalty Free" music instead? Companies like Backtraxx and Mokol publish one-time buyout libraries... others publish libraries with "needle drop" rights.

There are also some sites on the web with people giving away short loops...

Marcello Mongardi · May 16th, 2003, 01:36 PM

Is there a site that someone could direct me to that gives an outline of balanced audio vs. unbalanced audio (and any other info). rather than have you all write it out for me bit by bit I am hoping to be able to read about it somewhere and learn.

Thanks,

Marcello

Jeff Donald · May 16th, 2003, 01:52 PM

Hi Marcello, that topic has been covered here on several occasions and you can find that information by using the search button in the upper right. I know that Mark Austin, a Wrangler, covered it once in very simple terms, but was quite thorough.

Stas Tagios · May 20th, 2003, 03:57 AM

Just starting to search for a good, low-cost wireless system. Have heard good things about the Audio-Technica 100 series, but would it be practical to wear the receiver on a belt, rather than attaching it to my camera?

I'm using the DVX-100, and its small, light body design makes it impratical to mount wireless receivers on. Would wearing a receiver on a belt cause undue interference with the signal?

Or would it be better to seek out a system with a smaller receiver (The sennheiser evolution 100's receiver seems more svelte but doesn't have an XLR out).

Any suggestions? Anyone using the AT100 and not mounting the receiver to the camera, but carrying it separately? Thanks for any suggestions and advice.

Peter Jefferson · May 20th, 2003, 10:45 AM

the bad thing about small cams is that theyres nowhere to "expand"
With the senn series 100 wireless, im actaully strapping a velcro strap onto my right forearm then strapping or clip the receiver onto my arm...
can et tedious, but as the leads are short, its either that or clip it to the cameras handstrap.

Aaron Rosen · May 21st, 2003, 02:53 PM

Is this mic similar in quality to the ME66/K6 combo?

Bryant Sentosa · May 22nd, 2003, 02:27 PM

I'm interested in getting into video deposition.

Can anyone tell me some recommended make and model for mixer, mics, and PZM for that type of occupation.

I'll be starting out so price is a factor, but not the only one.
Since it is for a business, I'm willing to spend a little more than
the Radio Shack version.

Please see my post in "Taking of Business" - Article: Notice: Deposition Videographer

I have several questions, if anyone can help me.

Thanks
Bryant

Josh Bass · May 23rd, 2003, 03:23 AM

So that next time I don't have to do so much tweaking in post, can someone give me tips on using a shotgun mic, specifically the Sennheiser ME66, for recording dialogue?

I've heard about two feet from the person(s), and aimed at the collarbone area, not the mouth. Is this right? Should you hold the mic point down at them from above, or up at them from below? Does it matter?

I'll be using the XL1s. I've been using the MIC ATT 20 setting for Audio 1, where the ME66 plugs in, because without the attenuation I hear a background noise no matter where I am. . .just a basic nasty hiss. I also have the bass rolloff switch off--meaning the more . . .um bassy frequencies are allowed to be picked up.

The show I'm doing the audio for has to master louder than it should. I go for around -6db, instead 0f -12 (which is the standard, right?). Should I let it peak at -12, and raise it in post? Is this better than raising it so that it peaks at -6 while recording?

Apparently I have no idea what the hell I'm doing. Please help!

Christopher Go · May 23rd, 2003, 05:02 AM

Hey Josh, might want to check out Jay Rose's book Great Sound for Digital Video over at Amazon or your nearest bookstore. Some good info on booming in Chapter 8.

Then there's a collection of great articles at Equipment Emporium.

You should aim for the mouth getting as close as possible without dipping into the shot (some people place white tape at the end of the microphone so directors know when it enters the shot accidentally). One suggestion is to practice with a small flashlight in place of the microphone and keep the light on the actor's mouth. Should also get familiar with the dialogue so you can boom appropriately. Lots more in the resources referenced above, I recommend checking them out. I'm learning too.

K. Forman · May 23rd, 2003, 05:15 AM

I'll second Jay Rose's book ( I didn't even know he had one out!), that man knows his stuff. As far as which direction to mic from and does it make a difference? If you mic from above, sounds have a way of bouncing off of surfaces... like the ground. This isn't necesarily a bad thing, it just means you will have a bit more bass I believe. If the talent is wearing hard soled shoes on a basketball court, you will have to adjust for major reverb and echos.

Also... I believe that -3db is where you should aim for.

May 7th, 2003, 07:21 PM	#32
Susan Highsmith Tourist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 4	type of mic you use I’m curious, when making your films, what kind of mic do some of you use with your dvx-100? And do you have it camcorded mounted, boom mounted, or plugged directly into the XLR inputs of a recorder? When it comes to all the audio equipment/accessories that are essential for high quality sound, I am clueless. If anyone could write out a list, I would be eternally grateful. Thanx for any info you can provide.

May 8th, 2003, 12:32 PM	#35
Joe Gioielli Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Port Richey, Fl Posts: 142	Public Domain Music CD I am looking to buy a cd of public domain music. What companies have you dealt with that you have been happy with? __________________ Why ask me? I thought you were in charge!

May 16th, 2003, 01:36 PM	#37
Marcello Mongardi New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: New York, New York Posts: 24	balanced audio etc. Is there a site that someone could direct me to that gives an outline of balanced audio vs. unbalanced audio (and any other info). rather than have you all write it out for me bit by bit I am hoping to be able to read about it somewhere and learn. Thanks, Marcello __________________ Red means run, son.

May 16th, 2003, 01:52 PM	#38
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Hi Marcello, that topic has been covered here on several occasions and you can find that information by using the search button in the upper right. I know that Mark Austin, a Wrangler, covered it once in very simple terms, but was quite thorough. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 20th, 2003, 03:57 AM	#39
Stas Tagios Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 38	Some questions re AT100 Just starting to search for a good, low-cost wireless system. Have heard good things about the Audio-Technica 100 series, but would it be practical to wear the receiver on a belt, rather than attaching it to my camera? I'm using the DVX-100, and its small, light body design makes it impratical to mount wireless receivers on. Would wearing a receiver on a belt cause undue interference with the signal? Or would it be better to seek out a system with a smaller receiver (The sennheiser evolution 100's receiver seems more svelte but doesn't have an XLR out). Any suggestions? Anyone using the AT100 and not mounting the receiver to the camera, but carrying it separately? Thanks for any suggestions and advice.

May 7th, 2003, 01:30 PM	#31
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	That should be sufficient enough for background noise.

May 7th, 2003, 08:21 PM	#33
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	The Sennheiser ME66/K6 is pretty good, depending on what you want a mic for. I like to mount a mic on the tripod or on the cam---depending on what you want to do.

May 7th, 2003, 08:59 PM	#34
Christopher Go Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 429	We use an Audio Technica 4073a shotgun microphone, Lightwave GT-10 boompole, and Audio Technica 8415 shockmount for our sound. Looking into getting a longer boompole and some windscreen equipment as well pretty soon. This is not connected to our AG-DVX100 however. Instead we're learning to use a double-system setup with a Tascam DA-P1 DAT recorder. Check out Equipment Emporium for some good articles on sound equipment and sales.

May 8th, 2003, 01:10 PM	#36
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	"Public Domain Music" Not sure what you mean by that. Music whose copyright has expired, is in the public domain... but that doesn't mean a particular recording of that music is... follow me? Are you looking for "Royalty Free" music instead? Companies like Backtraxx and Mokol publish one-time buyout libraries... others publish libraries with "needle drop" rights. There are also some sites on the web with people giving away short loops...

May 20th, 2003, 10:45 AM	#40
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	the bad thing about small cams is that theyres nowhere to "expand" With the senn series 100 wireless, im actaully strapping a velcro strap onto my right forearm then strapping or clip the receiver onto my arm... can et tedious, but as the leads are short, its either that or clip it to the cameras handstrap.

May 21st, 2003, 02:53 PM	#41
Aaron Rosen Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: HB, CA - USA Posts: 298	Quality Is this mic similar in quality to the ME66/K6 combo?

May 22nd, 2003, 02:27 PM	#42
Bryant Sentosa Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 33	What mixer for video deposition? I'm interested in getting into video deposition. Can anyone tell me some recommended make and model for mixer, mics, and PZM for that type of occupation. I'll be starting out so price is a factor, but not the only one. Since it is for a business, I'm willing to spend a little more than the Radio Shack version. Please see my post in "Taking of Business" - Article: Notice: Deposition Videographer I have several questions, if anyone can help me. Thanks Bryant

May 23rd, 2003, 03:23 AM	#43
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Booming tips So that next time I don't have to do so much tweaking in post, can someone give me tips on using a shotgun mic, specifically the Sennheiser ME66, for recording dialogue? I've heard about two feet from the person(s), and aimed at the collarbone area, not the mouth. Is this right? Should you hold the mic point down at them from above, or up at them from below? Does it matter? I'll be using the XL1s. I've been using the MIC ATT 20 setting for Audio 1, where the ME66 plugs in, because without the attenuation I hear a background noise no matter where I am. . .just a basic nasty hiss. I also have the bass rolloff switch off--meaning the more . . .um bassy frequencies are allowed to be picked up. The show I'm doing the audio for has to master louder than it should. I go for around -6db, instead 0f -12 (which is the standard, right?). Should I let it peak at -12, and raise it in post? Is this better than raising it so that it peaks at -6 while recording? Apparently I have no idea what the hell I'm doing. Please help! __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

May 23rd, 2003, 05:02 AM	#44
Christopher Go Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 429	Hey Josh, might want to check out Jay Rose's book Great Sound for Digital Video over at Amazon or your nearest bookstore. Some good info on booming in Chapter 8. Then there's a collection of great articles at Equipment Emporium. You should aim for the mouth getting as close as possible without dipping into the shot (some people place white tape at the end of the microphone so directors know when it enters the shot accidentally). One suggestion is to practice with a small flashlight in place of the microphone and keep the light on the actor's mouth. Should also get familiar with the dialogue so you can boom appropriately. Lots more in the resources referenced above, I recommend checking them out. I'm learning too.

May 23rd, 2003, 05:15 AM	#45
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	I'll second Jay Rose's book ( I didn't even know he had one out!), that man knows his stuff. As far as which direction to mic from and does it make a difference? If you mic from above, sounds have a way of bouncing off of surfaces... like the ground. This isn't necesarily a bad thing, it just means you will have a bit more bass I believe. If the talent is wearing hard soled shoes on a basketball court, you will have to adjust for major reverb and echos. Also... I believe that -3db is where you should aim for.